A City at Sea

[Dreadnought]

This thread will be dedicated to the utility of the battleships the unique qualities they bring when at sea or on station. We may even add WWII era cruisers both CA and CL alike to this thread at some point or a varient of the USN classes to include all nations Navy's if they so fit the catagory.

Missles,Guns and Bombardment will not be a topic on this thread and it is not wanted since so many threads exist with that as a topic. If this is what you wish to discuss then please utilize one of the other threads in this forum and there are plenty.

On Friday May 23 USS New Jersey (BB62) will commeriate her 65th Anniversary of her first commisioning here in Philadelphia. Upon her commeration they will open the "City at Sea" tour. This is a below decks tour featuring other aspects of the ship outside the norm of gunnery and weapons systems such as Machine shops (all of them),Medical,Dental,Post Office, Helo Ops,Ships Stores,Damage Control,Barbers,Chapel,Taylors,Brig,Laundry and ofcrse the mess decks.

We can include engineering in this thread (for all ships mentioned) as well however her engine spaces are not open as of present but will be in the future. If you have experience on other ships or these please share what you know all are welcomed.

If you are going to post, in the topic section please fill out what the post relates to that way all other members and viewers understand the post.

Thanks in advance.

[Ytlas]

Missles,Guns and Bombardment will not be a topic on this thread and it is not wanted since so many threads exist with that as a topic. If this is what you wish to discuss then please utilize one of the other threads in this forum and there are plenty.

On Friday May 23 USS New Jersey (BB62) will commeriate her 65th Anniversary of her first commisioning here in Philadelphia. Upon her commeration they will open the "City at Sea" tour. This is a below decks tour featuring other aspects of the ship outside the norm of gunnery and weapons systems such as Machine shops (all of them),Medical,Dental,Post Office, Helo Ops,Ships Stores,Damage Control,Barbers,Chapel,Taylors,Brig,Laundry and ofcrse the mess decks.


If you are going to post, in the topic section please fill out what the post relates to that way all other members and viewers understand the post.

Thanks in advance.

Gee whiz, after all the terms you set forth, I feel like hijacking the thread on the first post......

Do chickens see in color?

What is cRusty's annual expenditure on pencils?

Is Grasshopper going to be talked into having a large wedding?

Does Dread really have 6 toes on his right foot?





Is there still a print shop?

Is the tour going to include the Chief's Quarters and Mess, since you're going right by there.

[Dreadnought]

Gee whiz, after all the terms you set forth, I feel like hijacking the thread on the first post......

Do chickens see in color?

What is cRusty's annual expenditure on pencils?

Is Grasshopper going to be talked into having a large wedding?

Does Dread really have 6 toes on his right foot?





Is there still a print shop?

Is the tour going to include the Chief's Quarters and Mess, since you're going right by there.

I cant stop laughing! Your killing me Pal.

[Dreadnought]

The infomercial on the below decks experience (briefly)

YouTube - Battleship New Jersey

[Dreadnought]

Does Dread really have 6 toes on his right foot?
Seven, they call me Lucky seven Sampson (helps hold the ropes better)

Do chickens see in color? So long as they dont see the axe coming im not worried.:P

What is cRusty's annual expenditure on pencils? Unknown to this date but he's not that expensive on erasers.;)

Is Grasshopper going to be talked into having a large wedding? Not on my watch, Not on my ship.
:)
Does Dread really have 6 toes on his right foot? (see above;)

[Ytlas]

So..... it's a 7:14 second video on You Tube about the "Below Deck Experience" yet there's less than 1 minute of showing pictures and clips of "Below Decks."

Are you guys going to have the people sign a waiver so in case they smash their shins or crack their forehead, they won't sue your organization?

I had a working partner on the Jersey for a while. They put her with another mechanic for a few days and she fell down one of the ladders to Broadway and permanently screwed up her back. She was very athletic, a javelin thrower in high school (or was it a Junior College?), and still managed to fall. cRusty probably knows her from Plan Files, where she eventually ended up. On the Misery, they changed out the ladder (years ago) to a more safe version, to the spot of surrender and that's out in the open.

[Gun Grape]

This thread will be dedicated to the utility of the battleships the unique qualities they bring when at sea or on station.

Great idea for a thread

On Friday May 23 USS New Jersey (BB62) will commeriate her 65th Anniversary of her first commisioning here in Philadelphia. Upon her commeration they will open the "City at Sea" tour. This is a below decks tour featuring other aspects of the ship outside the norm of gunnery and weapons systems such as Machine shops (all of them),Medical,Dental,Post Office, Helo Ops,Ships Stores,Damage Control,Barbers,Chapel,Taylors,Brig,Laundry and ofcrse the mess decks.

For a thread about "unique qualities" you have named things that are on every ship that I have ever spent at least a month on. That would be 12 amphibs. From LSTs to LHDs.

So what are those unique qualities and the utility that only Battleships bring to the fleet?

[Michigan_Guy]

Nothing, like everyone on here says battleships are bad, they never did a thing ever.

[TopHatter]

So what are those unique qualities and the utility that only Battleships bring to the fleet?

They're slightly faster than your average 'phib?

More survivable?

:)

[Gun Grape]

They're slightly faster than your average 'phib?

More survivable?

:)

But faster and more armored are not things that are unique to the BBs.

And the things that Dreadnought listed are found on just about every ship.

And Michigan Guy, I don't hate battleships. They just don't have a place in the 21st century Navy. Nor was there a place for them in the late 20th century.
They have been OBE

[Blademaster]

I like BBs but GunGrape is right. It simply cost too much to build a BB and to maintain it. The guns are outranged by ship seeking missiles and torpedoes and submarines w/ its torpedos are BB's biggest Achilles heel.

I would support building a ship that has great artillery range but is not such a golden goose that you don't let it go into combat for fear of it being sunk.

[gunnut]

So what are those unique qualities and the utility that only Battleships bring to the fleet?

Rolling barrages of 16" shells that bring wonton destruction to a large area without the use of B-52s?



Basically carpet bombing without the bombers. Always a good show.

[TopHatter]

I'm a BB fan but I don't believe that they'll ever be reactivated. Just getting that out there

But faster and more armored are not things that are unique to the BBs.

What is more armored than battleship?? I mean, seriously?

Besides, your statement was "For a thread about "unique qualities" you have named things that are on every ship that I have ever spent at least a month on. That would be 12 amphibs. From LSTs to LHDs."

So please show me an amphib is anywhere in an Iowa's league when in comes to speed and armor. ;)

After all, doesn't LST mean Large Stationary Target? :))

[Gun Grape]

What is more armored than battleship?? I mean, seriously?

Nothing. So we will both agree that they have thicker armor than any other ship in the US Navy.

So what do you do with that? Send her places without escorts? Or send her places where the rest of the group will receive heavy damage to protect her?

Besides, your statement was "For a thread about "unique qualities" you have named things that are on every ship that I have ever spent at least a month on. That would be 12 amphibs. From LSTs to LHDs."

So please show me an amphib is anywhere in an Iowa's league when in comes to speed and armor. ;)

My point was that everything that he listed is common on other ships. Not something that the Battleship alone can claim.

I've touched on the armor but since you mentioned speed a few questions.

How fast can a battle group travel? As fast as its slowest member.

If the Iowas were part/leading a SAG with Burkes and Tycos will they race off and leave the group behind? No. What good is that extra speed?

[Dreadnought]

So..... it's a 7:14 second video on You Tube about the "Below Deck Experience" yet there's less than 1 minute of showing pictures and clips of "Below Decks."

Are you guys going to have the people sign a waiver so in case they smash their shins or crack their forehead, they won't sue your organization?

I had a working partner on the Jersey for a while. They put her with another mechanic for a few days and she fell down one of the ladders to Broadway and permanently screwed up her back. She was very athletic, a javelin thrower in high school (or was it a Junior College?), and still managed to fall. cRusty probably knows her from Plan Files, where she eventually ended up. On the Misery, they changed out the ladder (years ago) to a more safe version, to the spot of surrender and that's out in the open.

I believe they will have some boundry on the tour such as age (i dont think anybody under 16) and ability since in some cases they will have to navigate quite a few ladders in some close spaces (they modified a few ladders to help aid people in descending below decks) and always watch your overhead. We even had a few guys bang their heads on the tram beam when stepping over the knee knockers in the shop areas when we walked it for the first few times.
Its always a good guide to keep one hand on the beam while passing through the main corridor that way you know its there and not directly over your head.

The hatches are roped and have netting built into the flange bodies of the hatch housing so if incase of a fall near a ladder there is safety in mind.