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  • who gets the new t-34 tanks ?

    In the soviet army the distribution of the t-34 is a bit strange to say the least :
    The Leningrad military district gets none.
    The Odessa military district gets 50.
    The Baltic military district gets 50.
    The Western military district gets 266.
    The Kiev military district gets ~ 490.

    Someone could argue that the western and kiev districts faced Germany and that is reason why the t-34 are here.

    question : why the kiev m.d. gets twice as much tanks as western m.d ?

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    bugs Reply

    "question : why the kiev m.d. gets twice as much tanks as western m.d ?"

    Twice as much of everything. Good question. Some say caught between two stools in operational deployments. Others say by intent, with an attack on Romania in the works or a drive against the Germans through Lvov.

    What do you think?
    "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
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    • #3
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      The Kiev m.d. mechanised corps are poorly placed for a attack on Romania.
      The Odessa m.d. have the best position to do that.
      Last edited by bugs; 18 Mar 08,, 21:06.

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      • #4
        bugs Reply

        Yeah. Maybe. That, if correct, only answers for Romania.

        What about Lvov and west?
        "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
        "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs

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        • #5
          It`s not a bad position for ofensive ( if the intend to drive towards Germany or get behind the german forces in Poland ).
          The german operational deployment is just the oposite ( majority of the forces north of the Pripet).

          Almost 61% of the t-34 deployed on the Germany`s border are included in just 2 tank corps.
          the soviet 6th mechanised corps (vest) had 238 t-34 tanks.
          the soviet 4th mechanised corps (kiev) had 313 t-34 tanks.
          Last edited by bugs; 18 Mar 08,, 23:15.

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          • #6
            who comands the new t-34 tanks

            Who was the briliant leader of the 4 th mechanised corps.....?
            A.A. Vlasov ....:P

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bugs View Post
              Who was the briliant leader of the 4 th mechanised corps.....?
              A.A. Vlasov ....:P
              the same vlasom, who took german side, and fought against russians??
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              • #8
                Originally posted by omon View Post
                the same vlasom, who took german side, and fought against russians??

                he fought against the Soviets, not the Russians.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zraver View Post
                  he fought against the Soviets, not the Russians.
                  ok, he fought against ussr, my mistake, but it doesn,t make him any less of a traitor.
                  "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" B. Franklin

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by omon View Post
                    ok, he fought against ussr, my mistake, but it doesn,t make him any less of a traitor.
                    This is closer to my opinion of this man too. Stalin did not manage to kill 25 million Russians in any five period and to me at least means that no Russian should ever fight for Hitler.

                    The man was, however, put in a Nazi POW camp. Maybe his guards helped to "convince" him into the German cause.
                    All those who are merciful with the cruel will come to be cruel to the merciful.
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                    • #11
                      How about because the Soviets sucked donkey polyps at managing their production and distribution?

                      -dale

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                      • #12
                        production and distribution

                        Lets start with production :
                        115 t-34 tanks produced during 1940...
                        1110 t-34 tanks produced during Jan -May 1941 ( average 222 tanks /month).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bugs View Post
                          Lets start with production :
                          115 t-34 tanks produced during 1940...
                          1110 t-34 tanks produced during Jan -May 1941 ( average 222 tanks /month).
                          Let's start with the word and concept "management" instead, because that is my point. ;)

                          -dale

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Triple C View Post
                            This is closer to my opinion of this man too. Stalin did not manage to kill 25 million Russians in any five period and to me at least means that no Russian should ever fight for Hitler.

                            The man was, however, put in a Nazi POW camp. Maybe his guards helped to "convince" him into the German cause.

                            My problem was not that he sided with another nation against Stalin, it is that he sided with Hitler against Stalin. By the time Vlasov began forming his army it was already clear that Hitler planned to show no mercy to Russians regardless of their politics
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dalem View Post
                              Let's start with the word and concept "management" instead, because that is my point. ;)

                              -dale
                              Go on...

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