Is Barack Obama a pinko commie traitor scumbag?

[FibrillatorD]

Americans only, please

[HistoricalDavid]

Yawn.

[Srirangan]

Will not vote, but he seems less Commie than Hillary. Are the Chicoms funding his campaign too?

[Julie]

Please make your point FribrillatorD. Just his picture does not justify your accusations of this Presidential candidate. Thank you.

[phillip]

Obama was recently shown with Hillary and others with the US flag in the background. Mr. Obama was the only one not saluting...isn't this the flag of the country he wants to represent....huh? What does that mean? Is he running for the Black Panthers or the USA

[phillip]

Salute!!

Julie...
Obama needs to salute the American flag or take his candidacy elsewhere...like the Black Panthers.

[SteveMetz]

Obama was recently shown with Hillary and others with the US flag in the background. Mr. Obama was the only one not saluting...isn't this the flag of the country he wants to represent....huh? What does that mean? Is he running for the Black Panthers or the USA

As it turns out, that was taken during the playing of the national anthem, not during the pledge of allegience to the flag.

[glyn]

Oh no! Us foreign devils are excluded from playing again.

[Julie]

Oh no! Us foreign devils are excluded from playing again.

Go ahead glyn, be my guest. :) How unpatriotic, or unAmerican is Obama?

Personally, I have a real problem with his voting record, more than anything else.

[FibrillatorD]

Please make your point FribrillatorD. Just his picture does not justify your accusations of this Presidential candidate. Thank you.

Julie, Andrew Sullivan wrote a piece in this month's Atlantic where he basically says Barack Obama offers America the chance to finally move beyond the rubric of Vietnam and the anger of the 70s, because he "opposed the wrong war for the right reasons," and because he is young enough that he didn't get caught up in the division of the baby boomers. He doesn't have a dog in any fight, Sullivan says, and so his political opposition cannot categorize him in the way Hillary-haters categorize Hillary. Thus, I want to test Sullivan's theory, and see if in fact the Americans on this board can in good faith label Obama in the way Hillary and other liberals of her generation (baby boomers) are labelled - in Cold War terms, basically. That's all. No accusations, just a poll.

Goodbye to All That


**Apologies to the "foreigners." Maybe one of the mods will move this thread to the American election 2008 section?

[HistoricalDavid]

FibrillatorD, are you a snide weaselly hack? No accusations, just a question.

As it turns out, that was taken during the playing of the national anthem, not during the pledge of allegience to the flag.

Snopes to the rescue. Urban Legends Reference Pages: Barack Obama and the National Anthem

[Julie]

That's cool, and understood. :)

I had already read that article and it was a very good one. There is no doubt Obama has good intentions, and I don't deny that. But really think about what he says, and his reactions. CAN HE ACCOMPLISH THAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE? I'm very skeptical about that.

He's taken off his flagpin, which totally divides him from his Government, which will be greeting him when and if he takes office. Therefore, he will get many cold shoulders from day one.

He has also divided, and isolated himself from the babyboomers in his campaign. Babyboomers, who he will have to work with while in the White House. There goes another fan club.

Then there's the race issue. It shouldn't be, but, hey, there has never been a black President, so you can not avoid THAT big elephant in the room, okay? The Black Caucaus I'm sure will support him in his efforts.

Everyone knows you have to build allies within the Whitehouse over time to get any bill you want passed. Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours....it's a give and take thing. Where's the house that Obama has built? He has sponsored and helped get passed ONE bill in his political life on Capitol Hill.

His voting record leaves ALOT to be desired. He didn't even vote on the Children's Health bill. He has since said that was a mistake. What will he think if the American voters don't vote in the General Election. Do we later tell him "Oh, that was a mistake?"

He has bared his soul to America, and for that I have to label him as trustworthy. But, how far will that get him in his efforts?

He can talk the talk, but in walking the walk....he seems a little on the "lazy" side.

[FibrillatorD]

FibrillatorD, are you a snide weaselly hack? No accusations, just a question.



Snopes to the rescue. Urban Legends Reference Pages: Barack Obama and the National Anthem

No

[dalem]

He's none of the things you listed, Fib, so I voted no. But he's certainly not presidential material.

-dale

[Julie]

He's none of the things you listed, Fib, so I voted no. But he's certainly not presidential material.

-dale

That's basically what I was trying to say, but you say it with ALOT less bandwidth ! :)) I have GOT to learn how you do that. ;)