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    People entering the UK must be prepared to be tolerant or not become part of society, Tony Blair has said.

    In a speech at Downing Street, the prime minister said that tolerance was "what makes Britain" and warned "we must be ready to defend this attitude".

    The threat came not from "generalised extremism" but "a new and virulent form of ideology associated with a minority of our Muslim community".

    The Muslim Association of Britain said Mr Blair's speech was "alarming".

    Wars 'not helping'

    A spokesman said the prime minister should be "investing in our society" to help the deprived, rather than investing "millions and billions in illegal occupations" which had "not helped to promote multiculturalism in this country".

    If you come here lawfully, we welcome you. If you are permitted to stay here permanently, you become an equal member of our community and become one of us
    Tony Blair

    "Rather than standing up and lecturing us, it's time he puts his money where his mouth is," the spokesman said.

    Mr Blair also used the speech to announce a crackdown on funding for religious and racial groups, saying in the future they would have to prove they aimed to promote community integration.

    Conservative community cohesion spokesman Dominic Grieve said the speech was a "remarkable turnaround".

    "Many of the problems in relation to the issues he addresses are at least in part the consequence of a philosophy of divisive multiculturalism and political correctness that has been actively promoted by the Labour Party over many years at both national and local government levels."

    Funding crackdown

    Liberal Democrat communities spokesman Andrew Stunell said: "We must ensure that the voices of moderation have their say, but support for organisations must not be distorted by government-driven targets or Tony Blair's personal agenda."

    He said: "The right to be in a multicultural society was always implicitly balanced by a duty to integrate, to be part of Britain, to be British and Asian, British and black, British and white."

    Mr Blair "multicultural Britain" should be dispensed with, adding: "On the contrary, we should continue celebrating it,"

    But he said the suicide bombings in London on 7 July last year had thrown the whole concept of a multiculturalism "into sharp relief", the prime minister said.

    "The reason we are having this debate is not generalised extremism. It is a new and virulent form of ideology associated with a minority of our Muslim community.

    "It is not a problem with Britons of Hindu, Afro-Caribbean, Chinese or Polish origin. Nor is it a problem with the majoirty of the Muslim community."

    'Essential values'

    But he said there was a "problem with a minority of that community, particularly originating from certain countries".

    The failure of that part of the community to integrate did not mean multiculturalism was dead, said Mr Blair, but it would be useful to define "common values" all citizens were "expected to conform to".

    "When it comes to our essential values - belief in democracy, the rule of law, tolerance, equal treatment for all, respect for this country and its shared heritage - then that is where we come together, it is what we hold in common."

    Mr Blair also said: "If you come here lawfully, we welcome you. If you are permitted to stay here permanently, you become an equal member of our community and become one of us.

    "The right to be different, the duty to integrate: that is what being British means.

    "And neither racists nor extremists should be allowed to destroy it."

    Race equality

    Mr Blair said the Equal Opportunities Commission would be looking at concerns about women's status inside Muslim communities.

    He also praised Tory leader David Cameron, saying it was "not conceivable in my view" that he would seek to exploit immigration to win votes.

    Labour MP Keith Vaz MP has criticised the newly formed Commission for Equality and Human Rights for taking just one of its nine commissioners from a background in working for race equality.

    Only chairman Trevor Phillips had this experience, he added.
    Story from BBC NEWS:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/h...cs/6219626.stm
    Some interesting ideas, I suspect I do actually agree with Blair on this one.

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    Finally someone has stood up and said this, im british and off indian origin, you get no problems from this group,
    But he said there was a "problem with a minority of that community, particularly originating from certain countries".
    Im guessing he is refering to the Pakistanis and Bangladeshis communities.

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    • #3
      Every single thing Blair said was true and reasonable, and just look what the reaction was from the professional race-baiters:

      The Muslim Association of Britain said Mr Blair's speech was "alarming".
      A spokesman said the prime minister should be "investing in our society" to help the deprived, rather than investing "millions and billions in illegal occupations" which had "not helped to promote multiculturalism in this country".
      "Rather than standing up and lecturing us, it's time he puts his money where his mouth is," the spokesman said.
      THIS is exactly the kind of crap that makes a reasonable person, not previously noted as giving any regard to another person's race or creed, into a racist or religious bigot.

      The spokesman for the perpetually-offended, touchy, easily-excited Muslims of Britain should've agreed with everything - every single thing - Tony Blair said, then added, '...and we'd love for the Prime Minister to take a more active interest in Britain's Muslims, and we're ready to welcome him into our communities and look forward to integrating ourselves into a wonderful new homeland: our beloved Britain.'

      Instead...they whine; they seethe; they complain that somebody points out the obvious: a Muslim is inclined to hold himself apart (and thinks himself superior to all us 'kuffars', usually) and demand that the land he's just chosen to immigrate to change for HIM, cater to HIM, become what HE thinks it ought to be.

      Idiots - sometimes, I think an immigrant a Western country coming from a Muslim country is just as inclined to failure as if he'd just stayed home.

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      • #4
        I wish Blair was as right as this more often.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bandwagon View Post
          I wish Blair was as right as this more often.
          In his dying days as PM, he occaisionally shows glimpses of the promise that he did in 1997 - before Blair was swallowed by his own concern for his legacy.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PubFather View Post
            In his dying days as PM, he occaisionally shows glimpses of the promise that he did in 1997 - before Blair was swallowed by his own concern for his legacy.
            You are only saying that because it's true!
            Semper in excretum. Solum profunda variat.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bluesman View Post
              Instead...they whine; they seethe; they complain that somebody points out the obvious: a Muslim is inclined to hold himself apart (and thinks himself superior to all us 'kuffars', usually) and demand that the land he's just chosen to immigrate to change for HIM, cater to HIM, become what HE thinks it ought to be.
              You forgot to mention they also wanted more money given to them
              In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

              Leibniz

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              • #8
                The reason we are having this debate is not generalised extremism. It is a new and virulent form of ideology associated with a minority of our Muslim community.
                Still missing the point.

                Britain’s problems are not primarily with her Muslim citizens but primarily with her Mirpuri citizens.

                A distinction of great importance but one I will be surprised if a majority of Britons here understand ;) .

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hari_Om View Post
                  Still missing the point.

                  Britain’s problems are not primarily with her Muslim citizens but primarily with her Mirpuri citizens.

                  A distinction of great importance but one I will be surprised if a majority of Britons here understand ;) .
                  Blair could hardly come out and say "Most of the Muslims are fine, the worst are the ones from Pakistan" .. now could he???

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PubFather View Post
                    Blair could hardly come out and say "Most of the Muslims are fine, the worst are the ones from Pakistan" .. now could he???
                    Quite so, he couldn't say that, but the BNP will be their intemperate selves and WILL say that (and more). This will chime with the thinking of many Brits who are disaffected with the main political parties. Hence I can see only increased support for the far right. We are living in interesting times.
                    Semper in excretum. Solum profunda variat.

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