U.S. Carriers Becoming Too Vulnerable To Be Relevant? New Report Says Yes

Blademaster said:
No but you can reduce the search area based on the intensity of the jamming signals. The signals go by dB and the closer you get the more intense it gets.
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that assumes that the your identified source of emission is also a real one..... - let alone fleet or fleet asset based
 
Blademaster said:
Ah... trying to remember my high school physics... smaller waves can combine into one big wave if they share the same frequency or amplitude right?
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We-ll, maybe.

This isn't electronic warfare, but on the subject of a "big wave", take a look at what might cause Rogue Waves. See: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave[/url]

In any event, I think the best thing to say is that if one wants to learn about EW, go to the library and read up on it. I don't think I've done, actively, EW for close to a quarter of a century, so anything I know that they would cut my tongue out for saying has probably long since passed. But I still hear and read things here and there, probably not secret, but with my background, I could probably fill in the gaps that makes it the kind of stuff others wished the world did not know.

So when people get talking about this stuff on an open Net, I'd like to get into the talk, I find this stuff fascinating about what might be done with it. But then I remember that maybe it is not such a great idea to get into the talk and I just shake my head at what is being said. Not because it is being said, mind you, but because I can't add to it.

But let's put it this way. Remember the movie Wargames? In the small scene after the General sends up fighters over Alaska to investigate Soviet air contacts? His Aide comes in with something like, "Intelligence reports that the Soviets can generate false radar images 200 miles from the source."

And the General says, "Christ! Now they have us chasing ghosts."

Like producing holograms with intersecting laser beams, I can see how doing things like that in this day and age might be possible.
 
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gf0012-aust said:
that assumes that the your identified source of emission is also a real one..... - let alone fleet or fleet asset based
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You beat me to it. With today's technology you can be sent on a wild goose chase, only to find your whole house burnt down by the time you come back.
 
Tamara said:
Like producing holograms with intersecting laser beams, I can see how doing things like that in this day and age might be possible.
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Stuff like phased array optics, beam focussing, etc...
 
Ward_Carroll said:
Sunday, 26 January 2025
This Congressman Wants to Kill the Ford Class Aircraft Carrier
(23 min, 17 sec)
Representative Ken Calvert (R) (CA-41) recently told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute that a Ford Class aircraft carrier couldn't survive an attack from a Chinese hypersonic missile and that the Pentagon should consider canceling future construction as a result.

At the same time, the Congressional Research Service has just released a comprehensive review of the Ford Class program that's somewhat damning when considering the time and money it takes to build these ships.

So are aircraft carriers doomed to go the way of the battleship?
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Might be time to look at arsenal ships again and possibly more modified Ohios fitted out with the VLS mod. My main concern would be the possibility of overwhelming a carriers group's defenses enough to just damage the carrier, sinking it is not required. This isn't WW2, the US cannot afford to have even two or three of it's 11 carriers dry docked for repairs for a few months in the middle of a shooting war because there sure as hell wont be multiple new hulls sliding down the slipways every few months to replace them. Currently it takes what? 5 years or more to build one new carrier. The war would be over before even one new boat got a champagne bottle smashed on its bows.
 
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Gun Grape said:
looks like we were using the Red Sea engagements to test our non kinetic killing ability.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-w...-fight-2025-2#
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I knew active jamming was in play as soon as I saw the headline but I can't help wondering if they also didn't take the opportunity to test any of the laser systems currently under development in a real world combat environment?

Nice to see the forums is finally back up again BTW. For a while there I was beginning to think AB was gone fro good!
 
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Was going to say timely, but the thread was started 2013.

An F-18 was lost overboard while the USS Truman was making a hard turn to avoid incoming Houthi fire.
 
rj1 said:
Was going to say timely, but the thread was started 2013.

An F-18 was lost overboard while the USS Truman was making a hard turn to avoid incoming Houthi fire.
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The question is why when you have three guided missile DD's and one Ticonderoga Class cruiser.

 
The Houthis had acquired the TRUMAN's position, though not a weapons lock. I, for one, would seek to deny them the knowledge of my new position.
 
Officer of Engineers said:
The Houthis had acquired the TRUMAN's position, though not a weapons lock. I, for one, would seek to deny them the knowledge of my new position.
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Unless it was operating literally right off the coast of Yemen? (Which would be stupid.) 'Someone' must have tattled. So I assume someone else is taking careful note of local shipping and radio traffic.
 
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tbm3fan said:
The question is why when you have three guided missile DD's and one Ticonderoga Class cruiser.

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Missile range to carrier may have got closer than they liked, even if the missiles were being engaged by the escorts. Ship turns to unmask the majority of its anti-air systems.

The warning that Ward mentioned is a "If there is time" alert. Works great in peacetime
 
Monash said:
Unless it was operating literally right off the coast of Yemen? (Which would be stupid.) 'Someone' must have been tattled. So I assume someone should be taking careful note of local shipping and radio traffic.
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Yea but you can't sink every fishing boat in the pond
 
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