The Rise of China forum

Oh a few weeks away saw such a big change in the forum, devoting a special column to China-related topics. COOOOOOOL!

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What about a general East Asia/Pacific forum? China's growth is important, but what about Russian Far East, ANZUS, Vietnam/Thailand & South East Asia, Taiwan and Japan/Korea.

Surely thats more important than looking at China's rise? Japan alone should have its own forum if its about big, potentially influential nation states.
 
I'm not sure if this the right place for this , but here goes.

Chinas economy has been a juggernaut for a while now. Her manufacturing industry has taken the world by storm. Here in Australia; almost everything is made in China. There is very little manufacturing done here now. It's impossible to make goods when the labour Dollar is so different. I see the price of things in the shops hear and wonder how they can sell things for the price they do.

An example is; I brought a 18 volt cordless drill a couple of months ago. It came with a spare battery and 85 piece drill and screwdriver set, all for $49.95. Now, I know you only get what you pay for, BUT, I've had numerous tools from this company in the past. They offer a 2 year REPLACEMENT WARRANTY on all their products. You can't beat that. Some of the tools I have bought have had issues and I have returned them for a brand new one.
I'm not a tradie, and I can't justify paying $375.00 for a brand name drill when I can buy one for $49.95.

The products coming out of China are getting better and better all the time. All the major manufacturers here source from China.

BUT, here's the kicker. The world wide finance issue that is sweeping the world is also effecting China in ways we may not be ready for. Because we have very little made here, I fear that Chinas economy is going to stumble and may even fall over. If it does, I believe the whole world will suffer dramatically dragging the world into an economic depressive.

But there may be a winner here. And that winner may be in the form of India. Both countries have massive populations to draw workers from. I've had dealings with Chinese businesses and found them extrenal difficult to do business with. India on the other hand is a dream to deal with.

Freddie
 
Freddie

Welcome to this corner of WAB and thanks for sharing your personal exp with us.
 
Freeloader said:
This is one of the more fascinating aspects of international politics to me. China for whatever reason fascinates me. I'd like to visit there someday, but I wish they were a bit more "open" to various social events and things (music, games, etc).
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Indeed. While I was studying in the US there were so many Chinese people on the university but non of them ever wanted to hang out with any Americans, nor some other international students. And considering how many Chinese are studying in the US (and in the world), I am surprised that there are barely any movement for more demoratization, freedom of speech and human rights. All the attempts that happened came from some ethnic minorities like in Tibet and the recent unrests with Uighur people.
 
furkensturker said:
BUT, here's the kicker. The world wide finance issue that is sweeping the world is also effecting China in ways we may not be ready for. Because we have very little made here, I fear that Chinas economy is going to stumble and may even fall over. If it does, I believe the whole world will suffer dramatically dragging the world into an economic depressive.
Freddie
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Well so far it is not affecting it too badly!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/business/global/17gdp.html?_r=1&scp=6&sq=growth in china&st=cse
 
The name of this sub-forum is not suitable considering history.I think Renaissance of China is better.
 
Montenegrino said:
Well so far it is not affecting it too badly!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/business/global/17gdp.html?_r=1&scp=6&sq=growth in china&st=cse
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The worlds economies seem to be weathering the global financial crisis better than expected. That has been brought about by governments spending great amounts of money to kick start their economies.

China has become a source of money to be borrowed, even by our Govt. This will have the effect to make China an even bigger world economy. I'm still not sure if this is a good thing or not. Only time will tell.

The Chinese manufacturing industry is spreading in different ways.

The Great Ute of China is here - SA220 & V240 Dual Cab Utes - Great Wall Motors, Australia

I believe they an offshoot of Toyota; They may be a good thing, but Aussies are very skeptical of imported vehicles vehicles. We have some of the hardest conditions on earth for vehicles. If they can survive here, they can survive anywhere. Does anyone have any info on them?

Freddie
 
furkensturker said:
The Chinese manufacturing industry is spreading in different ways.

The Great Ute of China is here - SA220 & V240 Dual Cab Utes - Great Wall Motors, Australia

I believe they an offshoot of Toyota; They may be a good thing, but Aussies are very skeptical of imported vehicles vehicles. We have some of the hardest conditions on earth for vehicles. If they can survive here, they can survive anywhere. Does anyone have any info on them?

Freddie
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I do not know about these cars in particular, but my friend from Russia told me that Russians were importing a lot of cars from China and that they were incredibly cheap but in the same time of very poor quality. BUT again I do not know about these cars in particular and they may have even improved quality of their cars... China even bought Hummer!!!
 
The English word 'rise' is not commonly used to describe how a country is becoming strong and influencial. Thus many years ago they didn't say the rise of England, nor the rise of USA.

On the other hand, the term 'the rise of China', probably translated from Chinese, is now well accepted and used by the world media. Thus I find it all right to use it here at this forum.

Renaissance is not about strength and influence.
 
furkensturker said:
I'm not sure if this the right place for this , but here goes.

Chinas economy has been a juggernaut for a while now. Her manufacturing industry has taken the world by storm. Here in Australia; almost everything is made in China. There is very little manufacturing done here now. It's impossible to make goods when the labour Dollar is so different. I see the price of things in the shops hear and wonder how they can sell things for the price they do.

An example is; I brought a 18 volt cordless drill a couple of months ago. It came with a spare battery and 85 piece drill and screwdriver set, all for $49.95. Now, I know you only get what you pay for, BUT, I've had numerous tools from this company in the past. They offer a 2 year REPLACEMENT WARRANTY on all their products. You can't beat that. Some of the tools I have bought have had issues and I have returned them for a brand new one.
I'm not a tradie, and I can't justify paying $375.00 for a brand name drill when I can buy one for $49.95.

The products coming out of China are getting better and better all the time. All the major manufacturers here source from China.

BUT, here's the kicker. The world wide finance issue that is sweeping the world is also effecting China in ways we may not be ready for. Because we have very little made here, I fear that Chinas economy is going to stumble and may even fall over. If it does, I believe the whole world will suffer dramatically dragging the world into an economic depressive.

But there may be a winner here. And that winner may be in the form of India. Both countries have massive populations to draw workers from. I've had dealings with Chinese businesses and found them extrenal difficult to do business with. India on the other hand is a dream to deal with.

Freddie
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The most expensive thing I bought made in China was my 2k dollar pricetag hd tv about 4 years ago and it starting to show some pixel wear but it's just a tv. On the other hand I don't think I would buy a fire extinguisher made in China and feel safe. The thing with investments made towards China isn't based on issues like these but the motion of the whole economy. There is a real buzz that more and more people are getting rich in China regardless of truth or not investors will make the push for Chinese stocks. The blame of failure won't be on the daily labor rituals of the workers but on the stocks holders and whether they will place the investments to good use or not in order to help the world economy.
 
Whenever I see someone predicting the year in which China's economy will be larger than America's, I always want to (a) call the guy up and ask to see his assumptions; and (b) throttle the journalist for not asking about those assumptions in the first place.

If you want to peg the date within five to seven years, the only reasonable assumption is a quick jump in the value of the Rmb.
 
This is "The Rise of China forum" thread.

Could someone please provide a link to "The Rise of China FORUM" . . . . ???

I cannot seem to find it.
 
It has been renamed to the "East Asia and the Pacific" forum
 
May I ask a question? Obama is a half-African, why he don't make policy pay attentions to Africa continent? And provide more assistance to African people? Instead of his government make a policy call "Ruturn Asia". According to some medias claim: "this policy are aimed at rise of China."


Our Aisan people( especially people of East Asia) business don't need USA people pay more attentions,we can take care of ourselevs, please!

USA people should help more people who are suffering the civil war and hungry people in Africa. Or other suffering people in the world,please!
 
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