Statquo and OOE Club: Canadian Politics

statquo said:
Potentially crippling tariffs and a hostile US administration on the horizon and we have a caretaker finance minister, a governing party in shambles and a Prime Minister with less political capital than the temperature outside while making cinnamon buns and milkshakes on social media.
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At this point? Other than resigning what else is there for him to do? He's out of time, out of support, and sh%t out of luck.
 
Monash said:
I'd probably just just write the name of each new minister on a piece of paper and tape it to front of their desks. They're not going to be in their offices long enough to need a proper nameplate.
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…yet probably long enough to get some form of prorated remuneration that are usual for ousted ministers, while they seek gainful employment in the private sectors.
Most of them would undoubtedly be qualified for jobs in the fast-food sector!
 
Well it looks like Trudeau is throwing in the towel. Announcing his resignation as leader of Liberals in a few minutes.
 
Well! Better late than never I guess!
That said, is this really the best time to shut down Parliament?
Sending its members on what amounts to a two months paid vacation?
What with the problems, not just internally in Canada, but also on the international stage?
I.e. its two weeks to Trumps 1[SUP]st[/SUP]. day as President…what if decides to make good on his 10% tariff?
Hope that there are some M.P.’s that don’t treat it as a vacation!
 
For all that's been seen or heard from him of late and in terms of meaningful policy? You'd be forgiven for thinking that he left office months ago.
 
Contemplating the unthinkable?

https://substack.com/home/post/p-155703604

I still agree that its a remote possibility. But I think that the author is right that Trump is not a rational man anymore, if he ever was. It is unclear at this stage what Trump wants, a trade win he can brag about or something more sinister.

It is clear though that official reason for the tariffs is simply a pretext. Trump is going after Canada because he senses weakness.
 
Well if he thinks he can simply annex Canada after it imposes financial penalties on the US to counterbalance his tariff increases he's sorely mistaken. Feigning outrage and sending in the military would to occupy Canada is a possibility and in theory the US is more than capable of doing so. But the thing is the financial cost would be horrendous. US occupation forces would have to be in place for decades to make it 'stick'. And that at a time when he's supposedly also planning to massively cut taxation. Canada as an idea will easily outlive not just Trump's term in office but Trump himslef.
 
Monash said:
Well if he thinks he can simply annex Canada after it imposes financial penalties on the US to counterbalance his tariff increases he's sorely mistaken. Feigning outrage and sending in the military would to occupy Canada is a possibility and in theory the US is more than capable of doing so. But the thing is the financial cost would be horrendous. US occupation forces would have to be in place for decades to make it 'stick'. And that at a time when he's supposedly also planning to massively cut taxation. Canada as an idea will easily outlive not just Trump's term in office but Trump himslef.
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Under Article 5, NATO would be required to help Canada; ofcourse no NATO member is going to deploy troops against the USA!

But it would mean the end of the NATO and basically the end of the rules based world order established after 1945. The economic cost to the world will horrendous; while the MAGA faithful might follow Trump over the cliff, I don't think even the Republican elite would blindly follow into such a calamity.
 
InExile said:
Under Article 5, NATO would be required to help Canada; ofcourse no NATO member is going to deploy troops against the USA!

But it would mean the end of the NATO and basically the end of the rules based world order established after 1945. The economic cost to the world will horrendous; while the MAGA faithful might follow Trump over the cliff, I don't think even the Republican elite would blindly follow into such a calamity.
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Honestly? I don't think the Republican parties (big money) backers would allow the scenario I outlined to unfold without at least trying to intervene. For that matter even Musk has to be worried about the long term effects of a Trump induced trade war on his wallet.
 
His father taught him well, look where he is now. lost everything more than once and came back on top, very few businessman can pull that off, and get that far. BTW that never admit mistake and always blame someone is how most if not all gvmnt agencies work, he did not need to learn that from father, It is that thing that you will inevitably learn from interacting with DMV, courts, Licensing/permit agencies, cops......... etc.
 
omon said:
His father taught him well, look where he is now. lost everything more than once and came back on top, very few businessman can pull that off, and get that far. BTW that never admit mistake and always blame someone is how most if not all gvmnt agencies work, he did not need to learn that from father, It is that thing that you will inevitably learn from interacting with DMV, courts, Licensing/permit agencies, cops......... etc.
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LOL, if one calls losing everything when he loses everyone else's money in a project. Obviously you are not a New Yorker which is why you know little about the trumps from back in the day like 50-60 years ago.
 
Trudeau calling it as it is. Trump is trying to collapse our economy to make it easier to annex us.
 
Officer of Engineers said:
And Trump just handed Carney his election
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Going to be interesting to see what US products and services Carney hits? I guess we'll see soon enough but he has He has lots of options. Electricity, commercial access to Canadian airspace? Anyone care to place some bets gentlemen.
 
The bet is that Trump will make some sort of deal with Carney, allowing Carney to claim the Savior of Canada title ... and, therefore, the 28 April election.
 
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Officer of Engineers said:
The bet is that Trump will make some sort of deal with Carney, allowing Carney to claim the Savior of Canada title ... and, therefore, the 28 April election.
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Trump looks weak if the tariffs go, Carney looks weak if he gives in to Trump on anything big/important to his fellow Canadians. Where's the compromise? And even if there is one for now. How long will it be before Trump (being Trump) just goes back on his word and reintroduces tariffs or whatever? :confused:
 
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