ICE Killings in Minneapolis

Pam Bondi said they’ll remove ICE if Minnesota hands over voter rolls?
 
Monash said:
Alas my faith in the ability of Congress to 'get it's collective head out of it's ass' especially based on recent experience? Is even less than the odds of a legal 'Hail Mary Pass' to the Supreme Court succeeding. Logic would suggest that even a conservative bench like the current incumbents would (you'd think) have to be concerned by recent events in Minneapolis.
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This should be one of many many alarm bells that they are ceding too much power to the executive. As one of the branches of government, this should be a fight for self-preservation of checks and balances.

But they're too busy smelling Trump's and their own farts to see it.
 
tbm3fan said:
At the very first time I saw the first video I noticed the woman in pink in the background. I also knew her view was going to be damning as all could be seen right down to the subject pistol whipped three times.

This video on CNN is with another person who saw the whole thing from a donut shop with the same view as the woman in pink. He gets quite emotional about what he saw happen.

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The state should at the very least file third-degree murder charges like they did with Derek Chauvin.

I live less than a mile west, in a neighborhood directly adjacent to the one where Alex Pretti was shot dead. Several helicopters were overhead in my general area for at least 12 hours yesterday after the shooting, I could hear them constantly with the windows closed, and one seemed almost directly overhead for the last couple hours before I went out around 8pm. I imagine it was positioned in such a way to have a direct view down 26th St to observe what was happening in the aftermath of the shooting. Whether it was news, feds, state, city police, no idea.

Except for Greg Bovino showing up in a park near my place a few days ago while I was at work, and the sound of whistles and car horns for about five minutes last weekend, my neighborhood itself has been fairly quiet, since we don't have many migrants over here. I imagine though the residents where I live, comprise many of the younger and middle-aged protestors and observers who have daytime jobs as working professionals, and are active in the places where most of the operations are actually occurring. I haven't personally joined any protests, and try to avoid the areas where ICE activities and protests are taking place.

Got invited to go out with friends last night, it seemed most nightlife places were fairly dead, maybe 20-30% usual patronage numbers. A lot of people are not really going out, maybe because of feeling unsafe. Have not yet seen the National Guard that Walz called up yet, though I expect I will at some point during my commute tomorrow.
 
statquo said:
Pam Bondi said they’ll remove ICE if Minnesota hands over voter rolls?
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DOJ just recently lost a law suit in California where they demanded our voter's roll. So Bondi is going to try blackmail, instead, with Minnesota given her recent loss.

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Federal Court Dismisses DOJ Lawsuit Seeking California Voter Data | American Civil Liberties Union

Santa Ana, CA — A federal judge dismissed the U.S. Department of Justice’s (DOJ) lawsuit against the State of California in United States v. Weber,...
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I'm curious if the feds actually allow the extradition of these ICE/CBP. I imagine they've whisked them out of state after this shooting, like they did with Jonathan Ross.

I can further imagine the "DOJ" under Bondi will retaliate with "interference" and "impeding" charges against prominent MN politicians like Frey and Walz. Or maybe even the MN prosecutors bringing charges.
 
No statue of limitations for criminal charges where there was the death of the victim in Minnesota. So, in a sense, those ICE agents will never be in the clear. Now a wrongful death suit by the family has only three years.
 
Red Team said:
This should be one of many many alarm bells that they are ceding too much power to the executive. As one of the branches of government, this should be a fight for self-preservation of checks and balances.

But they're too busy smelling Trump's and their own farts to see it.
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They are working on the assumption that no Democrat President can repeat what Trump is doing.

This is significantly based on the assumption that the current GOP majority on SCOTUS will act differently under a Democrat POTUS (not an unreasonable assumption) and that the current structural advantage the GOP enjoys in the Senate will make it difficult for any Democrat President to significantly change that balance before Republicans get to appoint more justices.

They aren't worried about principle & precedent because the assume, with some foundation in reality, that they will never be on the wrong end of this sort of behaviour for long.
 
Deputy AG Todd Blanche was on Meet the Press today. Apparently:
  • 15:30 ICE/CBP agents are acting humanely (cough, bullshit)
  • 14:15 those (ICE/CBP) officers were forced to do what they had to do in the shooting of Alex Pretti (total fucking bullshit)
  • 14:15 local police are not doing their jobs in backing up ICE, the narrative can't just be about Alex Pretti, it has to be about the failures of local law enforcement to support ICE (how do 600 police officers "back up" 3000 ICE agents and still carry out everything else they have to do in a city of 420,000?)
  • 3:50 he can't tell if Alex Pretti was brandishing a gun, and nobody else who has seen the videos can tell either (don't believe your lying eyes)
  • it was a violent interaction (yes, but exclusively on the part of the ICE/CBP agents)
  • 11:25 did I hear him accidentally say that even before Kristi Noem said things that were just as false, just as misleading, that the mayor and governor "took their own narrative" and did it first? Did he slip up and forget the script, and call the DHS secretary a liar? (lol)
 
They’re trying to goat the protestors into violence to use as an excuse to declare insurrection and lay the hammer down.. probably not just in Minneapolis. It’ll just take one person to shoot back.
 
I'd wager Noem, Bovino, Trump, and Bondi are hoping and praying every day that someone kills an ICE/CBP agent in Minneapolis, to give them a pretext to escalate things even further, and justify the most extreme measures. Then they'll have their martyr, and cynically exploit the death to lay waste to the city and its people.

I've been calling out that the official narrative that this is about immigration enforcement as a pretext from the start. They falsely claim it is the "sanctuary city" policy and a purported refusal of local law enforcement to hand over criminal aliens - if so, why announce such an operation weeks in advance and make such a spectacle of it? The criminals will hightail it to anywhere ICE/CBP isn't, leaving working families who have homes, jobs, children, and nowhere else to go as the only people to go after.

This Operation "Metro Surge" and others like it that have taken place across the country have absolutely nothing to do with immigration enforcement. It is simply a campaign of terror being waged against the people of a city in a state that didn't vote for Trump. Trump himself has gone off-script and overtly mentioned several motivations for the operation that have nothing to do with immigration.

These operations are about intimidation, instilling fear, terrorizing, and brutalizing populations who for the most part, simply have a difference in political beliefs from the extremists in the current administration. The people in this administration have the mentality and urges of a sadistic, violent rapist.

On another subject, here's the police chief of Brooklyn Park, a second-ring north suburb of about 85,000 people, holding a press conference a few days ago regarding his very own police officers being pulled over, detained, and questioned about their citizenship status, solely because of the color of their skin:

 
I can not help but notice, no one who was not actively interfering or obstructing got shot, I wonder why that is. Also I see a bright side, it seems that lefty crowd starting to realize why we have 2nd, and hopefully stop trying so hard to eliminate it.
 
The man who was shot was not actively interfering or obstructing. He was filming with a cell phone and then tried to help a woman to her feet.

And who is "we" when you say "why we have the 2nd"? Are you a member of the American "we"?
 
Ironduke said:
The man who was shot was not actively interfering or obstructing. He was filming with a cell phone and then tried to help a woman to her feet.

And who is "we" when you say "why we have the 2nd"? Are you a member of the American "we"?
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Of course he was, sticking his phone into their faces from 2 feet away, that IS interfering, they were taking someone into custody and he injected himself into that process. dumb thing to do whether with ICE or any other LEO, and doing it while armed is even dumber.
YES, my US passport says I am.
 
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omon said:
Of course he was, sticking his phone into their faces from 2 feet away, that IS interfering, they were taking someone into custody and he injected himself into that process. dumb thing to do whether with ICE or any other LEO, and doing it while armed is even dumber.
YES, my US passport says I am.
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Not under federal statute. Federal statute (U.S. Code) defines the crime of impeding and interfering only when it's done forcibly. Recording, blowing whistles, being in a public space alone is not a physical use of force.

If I see anymore disinformation from you, you won't be able to post any further on this thread.
 
omon said:
Of course he was, sticking his phone into their faces from 2 feet away, that IS interfering, they were taking someone into custody and he injected himself into that process. dumb thing to do whether with ICE or any other LEO, and doing it while armed is even dumber.
YES, my US passport says I am.
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I see that Donald Jr. is now here asking us to not believe what 7 videos now show to anyone that has half a brain connected to their retinas. At least some of us do.
 
Ironduke said:
Not under federal statute. Federal statute (U.S. Code) defines the crime of impeding and interfering only when it's done forcibly. Recording, blowing whistles, being in a public space alone is not a physical use of force.

If I see anymore disinformation from you, you won't be able to post any further on this thread.
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He absolutely did grab the person they were trying to take into custody, that is your "force " argument, watch videos. As far as misinformation, LMAO, look in the mirror, you think I'm intimidated by your "you wont post here" lol, I'm not, i could not care less, btw this is actually a definition of cult, use intimidation to comply. I have seen how you erase posters' every post because he did not follow your line, does x'th sniper name ring a bell? Maybe your friend here should think twice before calling anyone a cult. now go ahead ban me, prove me right,
 
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