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All new members, please be advised that we will no longer tolerate unsubstantiated claims by either side on this issue. Frankly, I have had enough of

1) I come from China
2) The Chinese are right
3) The Tibetans are right
4) Life in China is much better now
5) We have freedom, you just don't understand
6) I am here to correct your misconceptions

This horse has been beaten to a bloody pulp. Unless you have something new to add, I do not want to hear this anymore.
 
Blade,

I think what we'll do is start closing some of the threads (not all) that cover similar ground. I'm afraid that merging nearly a dozen threads into one will result in a single 100 page thread that crashes vBulletin :eek:

We don't want to get sued by some crazy lawyer ;) :))
 
Shek said:
We don't want to get sued by some crazy lawyer ;) :))
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That shouldn't be a problem, as WAB is Private Property and thus people here post as a courtesy and a privilege, not a right.

Although, admittedly, there are folks here who need to be educated on the concept of "Private Property" and all that it entails.
 
Officer of Engineers said:
This horse has been beaten to a bloody pulp. Unless you have something new to add, I do not want to hear this anymore.
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As we say here at work you can drag the dead horse to water but you can't make him cross the road.

I hope this slows down...the Brigadier MUST be getting tired!

Thanks for your patience...and adult supervision.

Oh and remember, when the revolution comes, the lawyers are the first ones to get it!
 
But what happens when another Chinese feels like expressing how they are "a Chinese" and don't understand the criticism against the CCP? :tongue:
 
Albany Rifles said:


As we say here at work you can drag the dead horse to water but you can't make him cross the road.

I hope this slows down...the Brigadier MUST be getting tired!QUOTE]

One glass of blood and half an hour hanging upside down is enough to rejuvinate him;)
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Westerners may not understand Han Chinese's attitude towards religion. Before Han dynasty, there is no religion in China. Most of Chinese worship their ancient, imaginative creatures like Loong(龙) or originators of their professions. Then Confucianist create an ideology: The highest level of deity is "Heaven". Every deities people worship were under guideness of "Heaven". So no matter what kinds of deities poeple worship, they should always obey the guideness of "Heaven". And the King is the "Son of Heaven", he is the agent of "Heaven" on the earth. The King is only one on the earth can communicate with the "Heaven", report and receive message from the "Heaven". So poeple on the earth should abey the King, otherwise they disobey the "Heaven", and will be punished by the "Heaven".
This don't change after Buddhism, Christianity and Islam were brought in. So for two thousand of years, religions were always in the second place. Han Chinese are not that serious about religions like westerners. That's why Chinese never fought war like the Crusades. No matter it's right or not, Most of Han Chinese accept it.
 
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The Han-Chinese might not have but the Arabs certainly did - Talas River.
 
troung said:
Taiping rebellion....
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Is this what you are talking about?

The Taiping Rebellion (Taiping means great peace), the largest peasant rebellion in Qing history (1644-1911), was led by a foreign religion--Christianity. From Emperor Chien Lung's remarks about the world in the 1790s, to Hong Xiuquan, China had changed tremendously. Another peasant rebellion in the 19th century, called the Boxer Rebellion, directed mainly at foreigners in China, was built around heterodox beliefs such as supernatural forces that would render one invulnerable to guns and knives. The Taipings and Boxers helped foster broad trends away from mainstream Confucian learning. This was a great affront to those who argued that Confucian learning should be upheld as the essence (ti) of Chinese culture
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Can I post this here?

In all this talk about Tibet, let's not forget Nepal. :))



Notice that he says Nepal every time. :eek:
 
In Taiping rebellion, people not fought for their religion freedom. In ancient China, private gathering was very sensitive to the rulers. So in order to mobilize poeple, the leaders always use the name of religion. Like the form of Ming dynasty, the leaders also use the name of religion. But when they succeed, they abandoned the religion and surrendered to the Confucianists ideology again.
 
Shek said:
BI'm afraid that merging nearly a dozen threads into one will result in a single 100 page thread that crashes vBulletin :eek:
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Never mind vBulletin, it would crash the universe!

Israel vs Palestine,
China vs US
Soviet Union vs US
UK vs France
Right vs Left
Cats vs Dogs
Toilet seat up vs down

...The mega-thread for these debates would cause a singularity of stubbornness, pig-headedness and horses beaten to such a bloody pulp that PETA would have a heart-attack.
 
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