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  • Oracle
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    Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
    How do you intend to use this thing?

    It's tough to guide you to something useful when we don't know what it's purpose is. Do you do any photo or video editing? Play any games? Torrent movies you like to keep on the HD? Or is it strictly a word processing/web browsing machine? How long does it generally spend unplugged? If you carry it around a lot is weight a concern?

    Macbook Airs like to squeeze every component into the smallest space possible. That limits their thermal capacity and as such they tend to have slower CPUs and video processing than similarly priced, but larger laptops. They also tend to be expensive, due to both the size profile and the "Apple Tax" you pay for buying anything with their logo on it.
    Yes. Sorry I didn't mention the purpose. It's for coding. On an average I use my personal laptop for 10-12 hrs daily, now that I am not gainfully employed (on a sabbatical). Earlier during normal work days, I used the laptop for 3-4 hrs.

    I already ordered the Macbook Air, and graphics is integrated, while I can do some graphics work, continuous editing etc will heat up the laptop, but none like Windows Laptop. It's negligible, I checked the reviews. Moreover, I won't be doing any work related to graphics. Just pure coding. I don't play games, don't torrent movies or store them in my laptop, which is why I am satisfied with a 128GB SSD. None of the work I'll use the laptop for, will heat it up, even if I use it for 10 hrs continuously. Battery back up was also a concern. MBA has 12 hrs. For storage I have also ordered a 32GB Sony pendrive, and a JBL earphone for some DISCO when no one's watching. Plus I have 320GB of space in this old Lenovo laptop to store as much data I want to.

    On a side note, I can use VMWARE and run Ubuntu in my old machine. Or install Ubuntu fresh, kick out buggy Windows.

    It's costly for an entry level laptop, but I guess I will be spared of changing laptops again for the next 5 years, atleast.

    Edited: Out of the 10-12 hrs, I don't spend all of those hours coding. I read Medium, news sites, watch youtube, WAB etc.
    Last edited by Oracle; 04 May 18,, 15:37.

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  • SteveDaPirate
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    Originally posted by Oracle View Post
    I checked out Macbook Air. Pretty cool for an entry level laptop. Core-i5(5th gen), 8 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD. Expensive, but I have used Apple products before and know them to be worth the buck. Any views regarding the laptop?
    How do you intend to use this thing?

    It's tough to guide you to something useful when we don't know what it's purpose is. Do you do any photo or video editing? Play any games? Torrent movies you like to keep on the HD? Or is it strictly a word processing/web browsing machine? How long does it generally spend unplugged? If you carry it around a lot is weight a concern?

    Macbook Airs like to squeeze every component into the smallest space possible. That limits their thermal capacity and as such they tend to have slower CPUs and video processing than similarly priced, but larger laptops. They also tend to be expensive, due to both the size profile and the "Apple Tax" you pay for buying anything with their logo on it.
    Last edited by SteveDaPirate; 04 May 18,, 14:27.

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  • Ironduke
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    I don't know what the secondhand market looks like in India, but here in the US, we have used computer shops/charities that sell computers and laptops that are either donated charitably by corporations, or are bought on the cheap in lots by secondhand shops from computer/equipment recycling companies.

    One can get a few generation old i5 laptop/PC with SSD for ~$200. Generally speaking, one would have to put a modern OS on it.

    You can get a lot of bang for your buck by shopping around the computer charities/secondhand shops. The downside is that there is a very limited period warranty on these computers, and they may come loaded Windows Vista/7 or even variants of Linux to comply with OS licensing arrangements. Putting the proper OS on the PC/laptop is often on you.

    With one exception, over the last few years, I've been purchasing nothing but pre-used laptops and PCs for myself and others, and upgraded them as appropriate for use by myself, and as gifts.

    The charities, especially, are a good place to purchase from. They simultaneously train out-of-work people for IT/computer work, and these trainees thoroughly test all the components in a PC/laptop to ensure there are no problems, and the computer is saleable. More market value labor might go into testing components than you ultimately spend on the PC/laptop. Good prices can be found, as the corporations donating equipment get a write-off on their taxes.

    The secondhand shops might not be so rigorous in testing components, as their primary raison d'etre is profit motive.
    Last edited by Ironduke; 04 May 18,, 12:24.

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  • Oracle
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    I checked out Macbook Air. Pretty cool for an entry level laptop. Core-i5(5th gen), 8 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD. Expensive, but I have used Apple products before and know them to be worth the buck. Any views regarding the laptop?

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  • Oracle
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    Steve, kato - thanks.

    I want a cheap laptop, yes, but not refurbished. I saw some pics of newer laptops, the keyboard look okay.

    I have a doubt. I had bought a Windows XP Pro cd, which I guess was OEM. I could install XP from that CD like 25 times, then it would give out a message that I cannot install it again. Then I bought another XP Pro cd, this I have probably installed more than 500 times on my current laptop. What is the difference? Is the current one a retail version? Is retail for life, I mean I can install it for infinite number of times?

    Microsoft is notorious when giving details. The important part is multi-tasking, and 8GB RAM is for 64 bit OS.

    My budget right now is $ 450. Mind you, I will buy it in India, and electronics here are a little expensive than in the US.

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  • SteveDaPirate
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    Originally posted by kato View Post
    There are also dual core and hex core i5s.

    The one linked by Steve has a 3rd gen dual core i5.
    I figured requirement #5 nixed the hex core options :)

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  • kato
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    Originally posted by Oracle View Post
    Think all core i5s are quad cores.
    There are also dual core and hex core i5s.

    The one linked by Steve has a 3rd gen dual core i5.

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  • SteveDaPirate
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    Originally posted by Oracle View Post
    Need:
    #1. Processor(64 bit) - Core i5 (clock speed of min 2.5ghz), quad core. Think all core i5s are quad cores.
    #2. RAM - 8GB
    #3. Dos/Linux machine (compatible with windows). Will install windows if needed, later.
    #4. Ergonomic, robust and stable keyboard. My keyboard lasts only 3 months, such is the nature of finger pressure or his holiness' grace upon my fingers.
    #5. Cheap.
    #6. Exchange offers with my old Lenovo laptop are more than welcome.
    2.6 GHz CPU
    8 GB Ram
    500 GB HD

    $159 with free shipping


    Comes with Win 7 Pro installed, but you can always dual boot with the Linux distro of your choice. At this price point you can get a new one each month if you want to.

    Any reason you couldn't spend $6 on a little roll up silicone keyboard that can take the kind of beating you deliver when typing without increasing the bulk you carry around much?

    If you think you'll still beat that one up, you could go for a $29 laser keyboard. It projects the keys on to the surface of the table or whatever you set it on.
    Last edited by SteveDaPirate; 30 Apr 18,, 23:01.

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  • Oracle
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    Help wanted in buying a laptop

    Need:
    #1. Processor(64 bit) - Core i5 (clock speed of min 2.5ghz), quad core. Think all core i5s are quad cores.
    #2. RAM - 8GB
    #3. Dos/Linux machine (compatible with windows). Will install windows if needed, later.
    #4. Ergonomic, robust and stable keyboard. My keyboard lasts only 3 months, such is the nature of finger pressure or his holiness' grace upon my fingers.
    #5. Cheap.
    #6. Exchange offers with my old Lenovo laptop are more than welcome.
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