Will SARS make a come back?

[JRT]

...and they call it, "NeoCoV."

WHO: More research needed on deadlier coronavirus flagged by Scientists in Wuhan
28 January 2022

Scientists in Wuhan have flagged a deadlier coronavirus found in bats from South Africa. They say the virus is one mutation away from infecting humans. Its mortality rate is around 33%.
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[tbm3fan]

Why was he allowed into the country in the first place ?

Precedent set

Are you a top ranked tennis player? Nope, end of story.

[Albany Rifles]

Why was he allowed into the country in the first place ?

Cause as I said, he is not you or I. He was sent to a quarantine motel while his case was heard...just like every other scofflaw.

[Double Edge]

Of greater concern of the Australian officials was he lied on his visa application about his previous travels to get to Australia. If you or I did that we may not have even made it past customs.

Why was he allowed into the country in the first place ?

The greatest concern for GoA is the court not overturn the visa denial by the immigration minister. That would have been a real embarrassment.

12 hours of deliberations on a Sunday, GoA happy, 70% Aussies happy.

Djokovic unhappy.

I'm surprised to learn that the men's top seeded player sees no risk of Covid to himself (!)

He's an active player. He does not work at a desk. One bad spell and its curtains for his career.

People can be strong headed but this is taking it a bit far.

There is very, very little sympathy for him here, and I note that the French Open has now made it clear that it will be a vaxed only tournament.

Precedent set

[Bigfella]

Of greater concern of the Australian officials was he lied on his visa application about his previous travels to get to Australia. If you or I did that we may not have even made it past customs.

The minister has the power to deny a visa for basically any reason he wants. The fairly obvious lies on the application & questions over the truthfulness of his COVID diagnoses were grounds. So is virtually anything else the minster so desires.

There is very, very little sympathy for him here, and I note that the French Open has now made it clear that it will be a vaxed only tournament.

[Albany Rifles]

So Djokovic has been deported from Australia. The open is now wide open for the rest of the top seeded players

Considering how Aussies get treated during this whole Covid thing i suppose they don't have a problem with the judgement.

They had to put up with the rules and so does everyone else.

A sign of things to come....elsewhere too

Of greater concern of the Australian officials was he lied on his visa application about his previous travels to get to Australia. If you or I did that we may not have even made it past customs.

[Double Edge]

So Djokovic has been deported from Australia. The open is now wide open for the rest of the top seeded players

Considering how Aussies get treated during this whole Covid thing i suppose they don't have a problem with the judgement.

They had to put up with the rules and so does everyone else.

A sign of things to come....elsewhere too

[Double Edge]

A zero covid policy is a myth and a dangerous one at that

[Double Edge]

Falsifying documentation (by making a false statement) with regard to having been tested - in defiance of a lawful bill - can result in up to two years prison over here in Germany. After the mandated quarantine of course. And if in defiance of that you're transmitting your virii it goes toup to five years prison. And that's not something installed with this pandemic, but has been in force for decades.

It is irrelevant whether someone is a local or a foreigner. If they cannot comply with rather minor inconveniences then in my opinion yes, a less minor inconvenience such as a one- or two-week quarantine is an appropriate immediate protective measure for the population from their hedonist, narcissistic behaviour.

Is a zero Covid policy sensible ?

Lockdowns initiated when cases are in the mere tens. That's what's driving these internment camps.

[kato]

[SIZE=14px][FONT=Times New Roman]So, we opted instead for self-testing kits from CVS (six tests for $72…)

Self-testing kits range at around 2-4 Euro per test here, less for business procurement... i know people who shove those up their nose every day voluntarily, and in some professions it's required and then has to be provided by the employer.

There are cheaper ones (typically around 1.50 at the moment) but those tend to often be sold out.

were more surprised than pleased to be facing charges of $179 each, rather than the $65 they charge at the airport.

Was that for PCR tests ? Those have around the same price here (150-180 Euro) if you have to pay yourself (i.e. if you have no symptoms) and want a fasttracked result within less than 2 hours - and around 60 to get a result only after 24 hours. Usually places offer only one of these options.

Documented antigen tests at accredited test centers were around 15-30 Euro here during the short time where the government didn't pick up the tab and you had to pay yourself. Nominally every resident is entitled to get one per week for free, although no one really checks that and the government just pays a flat 21 Euro per test.

[JRT]

My wife and I are traveling to see my family (including my 89-90 year-old parents) tomorrow, so we went down to Adventist Healthcare to get our COVID-19 tests, and were more surprised than pleased to be facing charges of $179 each, rather than the $65 they charge at the airport. So, we opted instead for self-testing kits from CVS (six tests for $72…), and are expecting the results by the time I finish this. We got the last of the test kits, but they were expecting a delivery sometime today.

Negative.

Probability of false negative and false positive test results are nontrivial in the self-tests. You can significantly reduce the probability of false negative and false positive test results by taking a second test with 24 hour interval between tests, if the test results are consistent.

[tbm3fan]

My wife and I are traveling to see my family (including my 89-90 year-old parents) tomorrow, so we went down to Adventist Healthcare to get our COVID-19 tests, and were more surprised than pleased to be facing charges of $179 each, rather than the $65 they charge at the airport. So, we opted instead for self-testing kits from CVS (six tests for $72…), and are expecting the results by the time I finish this. We got the last of the test kits, but they were expecting a delivery sometime today.

Negative.

No free tests? I have yet to pay for a single test for me or my son and we have had far more than one each this year. My wife gets tested at work every week.

[DOR]

My wife and I are traveling to see my family (including my 89-90 year-old parents) tomorrow, so we went down to Adventist Healthcare to get our COVID-19 tests, and were more surprised than pleased to be facing charges of $179 each, rather than the $65 they charge at the airport. So, we opted instead for self-testing kits from CVS (six tests for $72…), and are expecting the results by the time I finish this. We got the last of the test kits, but they were expecting a delivery sometime today.

Negative.

[kato]

The only reason they sent her there is because she lied about being tested when she had not. She never tested positive during her stay there.

The rest of her friends who had contact with some one positive were allowed to self isolate at home because they were in the system after being tested.

Falsifying documentation (by making a false statement) with regard to having been tested - in defiance of a lawful bill - can result in up to two years prison over here in Germany. After the mandated quarantine of course. And if in defiance of that you're transmitting your virii it goes toup to five years prison. And that's not something installed with this pandemic, but has been in force for decades.

It is irrelevant whether someone is a local or a foreigner. If they cannot comply with rather minor inconveniences then in my opinion yes, a less minor inconvenience such as a one- or two-week quarantine is an appropriate immediate protective measure for the population from their hedonist, narcissistic behaviour.

All i see in the media these days is we got to be careful and prepare. Nothing wrong with that.

My local (rather conservative-rightwing) newspaper lists which articles that they have on their website are most-read.

Right now the Top 8 most read out of the Top 10 concern Covid, and none of them are about a "careful and prepare" notion, we're long past that:


The other two, for reference, are about some nearby industry buildings being town down and a service interruption for Vodafone in a local area.

[DOR]

Had to check out the Unherd site for this

https://unherd.com/thepost/inside-au...ternment-camp/

They have covid internment camps in the state of Victoria. If you're found positive that's where you end up.

I think they are following the Taiwanese play book. Aggressive contact tracing is how to keep numbers down.

We don't have this in India (yet) but last year my friend's wife and sons ended up in enforced isolation in a hotel for the same duration of two weeks after returning from a trip from Europe.

Hong Kong did the same thing with SARS, back in 2003.
A holiday camp in Sai Kung Country Park (like US national parks) was turned into an isolation facility.