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  • China a Terrorist Threat to U.S.

    WASHINGTON – China is stabbing the United States and the free world in the back in the war on terrorism.
    Harry Wu, the dissident who fought Chinese communist brutality on its home turf, told NewsMax.com in an exclusive interview that "China is a state terrorist country.”

    President Bush, before he visits China on Feb. 21, would be well served if he is fully informed of freedom fighter Wu's dire warnings, and of the startling revelations in a new book that backs those warnings to the hilt.

    The blockbuster Internet best seller, "Seeds of Fire: China and the Story Behind the Attack on America,” written by award-winning former foreign correspondent Gordon Thomas, is making a big splash in international circles.

    Dr. Wu’s charges against China, based on his foundation’s studies and his own experiences, are further verified by Thomas’ revelation that when those murderous terrorists slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing thousands on American soil, they were cheered on and supported by communist China.

    Let no one think that China is somehow a real part of the "anti-terrorist coalition,” especially when one considers the book’s revelations of China’s relationship with Osama bin Laden.

    Ironically, China’s largest publishing conglomerate - the Communist Party-controlled Xinhua Publishing Corp. - has bought the Chinese publishing rights to "Seeds of Fire.” This same publisher created a furor when it issued books, films and videos glorifying the strikes of Sept. 11 as "a humbling blow against an arrogant nation.”

    China means to destroy the West, according to leading dissident Wu, the soft-spoken but determined anti-communist who spent years in Chinese prisons. While many of us may have been able to oppose communism from the relative safety of the greatest and most prosperous nation on earth, Wu fought it right up front, behind enemy lines so to speak, and spent years of torture and hard labor for his trouble.

    Nuclear Attack 'Before 2015'

    His warning that China means to do great harm to the West cannot be doubted by anyone who reads the never-before-published documents in "Seeds of Fire,” including briefing papers from the CIA that show how China may launch an all-out nuclear attack against America "before 2015.”

    One can only speculate whether Chinese willingness to openly publish its own evil deeds is a sign of confidence that it no longer needs to fear retaliation. It’s as if they were saying: "This is what we’re up to. What are you going to do about it? You’re economically hooked to us.”

    That economic inter-dependence is the No. 1 factor that bothers Wu, whose Washington-based Laogai Research Foundation has been working for 10 years to expose systemic human rights abuses in China’s vast, secretive network of forced labor camps.

    Wu argues that anyone who kids himself by accepting the huge communist nation as part of a Western-organized crusade to combat terrorism is dealing with a contradiction in terms.

    Relatives Hostage in China

    Right now about 100,000 Chinese living in the U.S. cannot speak openly about terrorist persecution behind the Bamboo Curtain for fear of what will happen to their families in China.

    "Their families become hostages. This is terrorism,” Wu told NewsMax.com. "This is state terrorism.” Further, it is but one example of the terrorism the rogue state inflicts on victims inside and outside its borders.

    The Thomas book delves into Chinese intelligence operations in the United States. In the earliest years of the Cold War, congressional committees would haul spies and homegrown Soviet sympathizers before their hearings to demand information on communist intelligence networks in the U.S. Today, revelations of Chinese communist spying in the U.S. get short shrift in the media and bungled official investigations.


    Wu, twice imprisoned by the Chinese — the second time after he had actually become an American citizen - sees the international industrial commerce dealings with the his former homeland as fulfilling an old Lenin prophecy.


    The Bolsheviks had said that when it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will be bidding against each other to decide who will supply the rope.


  • #2
    Save it. You are just paranoid. The Cold War is over dude.
    And how old is that article anyway.

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    • #3
      China has helped, trained and supplied the Taleban during the push in Afghanistan against the Soviets.

      It is well documented in the book written by the ISI Brigadier who organised and coordinated the whole campaign for the Taleban.

      The launching of a nuclear war by China against the US before 2015 is highly exaggerated.

      But then, the Colonel who is a China watcher would be able to give more on the issue.


      "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

      I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

      HAKUNA MATATA

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      • #4
        Sir,

        It was not the Taliban but the Mujahadeen whom the Chinese helped. There is a difference.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
          Sir,

          It was not the Taliban but the Mujahadeen whom the Chinese helped. There is a difference.
          Not for him. Indian remember.
          "Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell

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          • #6
            I guess I should explain, for most Indians there was no difference between the Taliban and the Mujahideen. The latter were anti-Soviet, while the former were pro-Pakistan (at least precieved to be.)
            "Any relations in a social order will endure if there is infused into them some of that spirit of human sympathy, which qualifies life for immortality." ~ George William Russell

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sparten
              I guess I should explain, for most Indians there was no difference between the Taliban and the Mujahideen. The latter were anti-Soviet, while the former were pro-Pakistan (at least precieved to be.)
              This proves you are a moron.

              After the Soviets pulled out and anarchy returned, India has consistently supported NA against the Taliban. GoI knows the difference.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
                Sir,

                It was not the Taliban but the Mujahadeen whom the Chinese helped. There is a difference.
                Correct me if I'm wrong, Sir, but didnt some of the mujahedeens got absorbed in to talibans?? Ofcourse some of them also joined NA. But then mujahadeens were solely responsible for the arms, training and funding for taliban, IMO.
                A grain of wheat eclipsed the sun of Adam !!

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                • #9
                  The mujahadeen was a collection of ragtag bands with connections to all sides, including the Soviets. It was not even an effective alliance but a general name given to the resistence that was anything but 100% united and effective.

                  Therefore, yes, some joined the Taliban. Some the NA. Some just grew opinion and sell to the highest bidder.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
                    The mujahadeen was a collection of ragtag bands with connections to all sides, including the Soviets. It was not even an effective alliance but a general name given to the resistence that was anything but 100% united and effective.

                    Therefore, yes, some joined the Taliban. Some the NA. Some just grew opinion and sell to the highest bidder.
                    Question: What was the Northern Alliance's biggest beef with the Taliban?
                    The fundamentalism or was it just power and turf?
                    “Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America.”
                    ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                    • #11
                      Question: What was the Northern Alliance's biggest beef with the Taliban? The fundamentalism or was it just power and turf?
                      Power, turf and ethnic background. Relgion was a nice rallying cry to cover ethnic, turf and power issues. As it always is and will be.

                      The frontmen of the NA were Tajik (Khan, Massoud), Hazara and Uzbek (Dostum). The Taliban was led by Pasthuns. Yes there were token groups on both sides but it was mainly an ethnic war. Pasthun members of the NA were easily bribed to switch sides and by the end of the conflict had mostly switched sides.

                      Tajik and Uzbek forces were the ones which brought down Communism in Afghanistan and took Kabul while the Pasthun fighters sucked their thumbs and shelled the capital only to suffer reverse after reverse to them. Pakistan got tired of the HIA failing and thus backed the Taliban. What gave the Taliban a "good" sales appeal was the fact that Tajiks and Uzbeks were in the capital and in charge of the country.

                      Religion did play a part as the Taliban did butcher Hazaras in a way they didn't even do to Tajiks or Uzbeks. Hazaras are Shiite Muslims.

                      China has helped, trained and supplied the Taleban during the push in Afghanistan against the Soviets. It is well documented in the book written by the ISI Brigadier who organised and coordinated the whole campaign for the Taleban.
                      That was the Mujahideen during the 1980s, most of the aid went to the HIA which were Pakistans golden boys during the 1970s-1990s. What China did was sell guns (bougt by CIA) which were given by the ISI to people they wanted to shape the post war Afghanistan.

                      And lots of nations armed the Mujahideen during the 1980s... and even more nations had stocks of guns sold off to them as well...

                      I guess I should explain, for most Indians there was no difference between the Taliban and the Mujahideen. The latter were anti-Soviet, while the former were pro-Pakistan (at least precieved to be.)
                      There should be seeing as India sent support to the NA during the 1990s many of who were Mujahideen in the 1980s.
                      Last edited by troung; 04 Aug 05,, 21:59.
                      To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ray
                        China has helped, trained and supplied the Taleban during the push in Afghanistan against the Soviets.

                        It is well documented in the book written by the ISI Brigadier who organised and coordinated the whole campaign for the Taleban.

                        The launching of a nuclear war by China against the US before 2015 is highly exaggerated.

                        But then, the Colonel who is a China watcher would be able to give more on the issue.

                        For a period of time in the anti-soviet compain, US bought weapons from China and shipped them to Afghan via Pakistan.

                        Any how, the title of this thread can only make the poster looks stupid.

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                        • #13
                          There would be no China left if they attack the US. If so India, Europe, Japan and Russia would probubly then attack China. That would be very stupid of China. N.Korea would problubly stand by China though.

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