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    Gents,

    Can you please corroborate this story. This guy is on a friend's board and I just got email from him regarding the same.

    He claims to be a Indian Naval Aviator retired and this is his story. I find this whole assertion and multitude of things he has done, or so he claims as ludicrous and dont believe that he belongs to the Indian Navy.

    I have fired guns in anger and killed. I know what happens when bullets fly thick and fast. The LTTE guys I killed, had urinated or shitted in their pants when we recovered their bodies.
    Regarding my carrear in IN, I joined INS Sindhudurg on 01 Jan 1987 as a Midshipman and took part in Ops Brasstacks & topped the western command to bcum a commissioned officer. I joined AFA on 27th June 1987 & I got my wings on 11th June 1988 at AFA, dundigul and was posted as a fighter pilot in INAS-551 in Goa..
    I used to be the ORO (Operations Room Officer) of INS Gomati in 1990 and also its EW officer and it was a pain to differentiate these boats from false targets to real targets as they never painted steadily on radar till they were really close.
    Regarding my carrear in IN, I joined INS Sindhudurg on 01 Jan 1987 as a Midshipman and took part in Ops Brasstacks & topped the western command to bcum a commissioned officer. I joined AFA on 27th June 1987 & I got my wings on 11th June 1988 at AFA, dundigul and was posted as a fighter pilot in INAS-551 in Goa. in IN we all have to do sea service in each rank. I did my watchkeeping ticket on INS Gomati in 1990 during that time I was Ships EWO, LSO and ORO as part of primary duties and also incharge of wine store of the ship besides being the Hindi officer as part of secondary duties. During this time I took part in few clandestine ops as part of ships crew and that included a near nuke war in 1990. I was adjudged the best junior officer of western fleet in Mar 1991. I was posted to IAF-20 sqn after that in 1991 and returned to IN in 1992 to convert to SH.
    I was posted to western command again in 1994 on board INS Ranvijay and it was than that I did the course as counter intel officer in MUMBAI and while remaining posted on Ranvijay, I was acting directly under Command intel team as an intel officer.During this period I prosecuted an officer and also acted as friend of the accused to save another officer clean from court martial. I went back to flying in 1995 & I left IN in Aug 1996. So you see, I have been a part time lawyer also and a very successful at that with 100% record. so what if it was just two cases long.
    As a prelude to reguler Malabar excercises with USN, my ship did a small excercise with USN in BOB in 1990. We were on their starboard bow and than we were asked to take RAS station. Replishment at sea station. My CO was a hot rod. He took over the Con himself and being his oow, I was reduced to taking orders from him. He ordered a series of instructions-Stop steam Gens, Start DAs, revolutions 220 on both, hard starboard, OOW give me distance from ship. AND he did a 360* turn without letting the bearing of US ship go ahead. We got into station of 120 feet with US ship without overshooting or undershooting him. The US CO was so impressed that he stated-In his entire life he had not seen such control of a manouever of a ship which he saw that day.
    I narrated this to highlight the fact that we Indians are capable of much better things and we shud not let our energies be sapped in for stupid causes.
    The GOI controlled media called it 32knots. I know that for a ship of this size and non-nuke propulsion, 32 kts is too high a speed.
    "speaking about the speeds attained by Vikramaditya"

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    Horse puckey. He did all that in a 9 year career.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
      Horse puckey. He did all that in a 9 year career.
      Exactly what I thought Colonel. I dont much about Naval Designations which is why I asked.

      It seems, he had an argument with my friend with regards to two topics

      One he claimed a 45,000 tons non nuclear ship can never attain 32 knots

      Second, he claimed to have been in exericise with the USN Aircraft carrier in Bay of Bengal and the claimed to have replenished the ship.
      The fact is in 1990 India did not have military relationship with the USN. It only happened in 1991 when a pact was made and then in 1992 it was formally signed and exercises began, He is claiming that his ship transfered fuel on to the USN ship in 1990, when confronted with this. He claimed it was transit exercises and then claimed that fuel exercises only began off the coast of goa in 1992, which was not his first assertion.

      In 1990, India was in the bad books of USA with regards to IPKF, it was turbulent time

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      • #4
        A quick google states that the USS HORNET and the USS IOWA attains speed of 33-35 knots.

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        • #5
          The GOI controlled media called it 32knots. I know that for a ship of this size and non-nuke propulsion, 32 kts is too high a speed.

          MOSCOW, July 30 (RIA Novosti) – A Russian-built aircraft carrier due to be delivered to the Indian Navy following a much-delayed refit has successfully passed engine tests during the first stage of final sea trials in the White Sea, shipbuilder Sevmash said Tuesday.

          The current trials focused on the ship's propulsion system and its ability to perform as required.

          The carrier, named Vikramaditya, “showed excellent performance while being tested at various speeds,” a Sevmash spokesman said. “On Sunday, the ship attained a maximum speed of 29.2 knots.”

          The Vikramaditya, which is already years past its original 2008 delivery date, was supposed to have been handed over to India on December 4, 2012, but initial sea trials in September revealed that the ship's boilers were not fully functional.

          The source of the problem, which reduced the ship's maximum speed, was due to use of low-grade Chinese-made firebricks in the boiler insulation instead of asbestos, Russian shipbuilders said.

          The boiler problems were fixed by Russian shipbuilders in February, Sevmash reported previously.

          The Vikramaditya will now sail to the Barents Sea, where the ship will undertake working-up procedures including aircraft deck operations. Several MiG-29K fighters and two helicopters will be used in the flight trials.

          A report on the results of the final trials must be given to the Indians on October 15, the Sevmash official said.

          The Vikramaditya was originally built as the Soviet Project 1143.4 class aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov. In its original incarnation, the Gorshkov also had a history of boiler problems and suffered a boiler explosion in 1994.

          The refit of the ship has lurched from one crisis to another since India and Russia signed a $947 million deal in 2005 for its purchase and refit. Delivery has already been delayed three times, pushing up the cost of refurbishing the vessel to $2.3 billion, causing acrimony between Moscow and New Delhi.

          Indian Aircraft Carrier Passes Engine Tests in Russian Sea Trials | Defense | RIA Novosti


          *Either he is speaking about another ship other then the IN Vikramaditya or he can defy the laws of physics at will.

          The "Vik" can only approach 30 knots as shown above reported two days ago.

          That was sea/engine trials again. Not a full dispacement, fuel, crew, food, magazine, aircraft and support. Which means it was operating on a very limited displacement less then in service displacement

          Its only going to go slower as the displacement grows. At a full displacement they are going to find it hard pressed to get 25 knots out of her. Then you are really going to sea how good the craftmenship is/was during the engine refit.
          Last edited by Dreadnought; 01 Aug 13,, 19:54.
          Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dreadnought View Post
            The GOI controlled media called it 32knots. I know that for a ship of this size and non-nuke propulsion, 32 kts is too high a speed.

            The carrier, named Vikramaditya, “showed excellent performance while being tested at various speeds,” a Sevmash spokesman said. “On Sunday, the ship attained a maximum speed of 29.2 knots.”
            Dreadnought,

            I have read the thread he replied, he was making the point against this news article to an earlier one which claimed it was 32. He said for a ship of its size it was impossible for it attain 32 kt without nuke propulsion.

            I find his other claims even more ridicolous and is told to me that on this board he has been given a Serviceman status.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Defcon5 View Post
              Dreadnought,

              I have read the thread he replied, he was making the point against this news article to an earlier one which claimed it was 32. He said for a ship of its size it was impossible for it attain 32 kt without nuke propulsion.

              I find his other claims even more ridicolous and is told to me that on this board he has been given a Serviceman status.
              I know for fact that he could not achieve that in 9 years with the USN. But then again, its the Indian Navy. Different animal.

              Not calling the man a liar but some of his positions in 9 years call much into suspect.

              I mean Aviator, Operations room Officer, Counter Intel Officer, JAG Lawyer etc etc.?

              All this in 9 years? Something here does not seem right.

              Unless there is an Indian Navy Officer on the WAB that can verify this , Me, Im raising the flag of bullshit.
              Last edited by Dreadnought; 01 Aug 13,, 19:53.
              Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Defcon5 View Post
                Second, he claimed to have been in exericise with the USN Aircraft carrier in Bay of Bengal and the claimed to have replenished the ship.
                With what? Uranium? All US Carriers in the 1990s were nuclear propulsion.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Defcon5 View Post
                  I find his other claims even more ridicolous and is told to me that on this board he has been given a Serviceman status.
                  He claims to be on WAB?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Defcon5 View Post
                    Dreadnought,

                    I have read the thread he replied, he was making the point against this news article to an earlier one which claimed it was 32. He said for a ship of its size it was impossible for it attain 32 kt without nuke propulsion.

                    I find his other claims even more ridicolous and is told to me that on this board he has been given a Serviceman status.
                    *I can show him a ship that can do better then 32 knots, fossil propulsion and about 20,000 tons heavier.
                    Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dreadnought View Post
                      I mean Aviator, Operations room Officer, Counter Intel Officer, JAG Lawyer etc etc.?
                      Let me guess. He's also sleeping with Catherine Bell

                      JAG (TV Series 1995

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                        Let me guess. He's also sleeping with Catherine Bell

                        JAG (TV Series 1995
                        Perish the thought sir, Perish the thought!
                        Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                          With what? Uranium? All US Carriers in the 1990s were nuclear propulsion.
                          Colonel,

                          You are forgetting Kitty Hawk.

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                          • #14
                            Ain't nowhere near the Bay of Bengal

                            http://www.history.navy.mil/shiphist/k/cv-63/1990.pdf

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                            • #15
                              Hehe Defcon5 good one. I was following the debate too ;)

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