Millionaire Acid Attack Victim Using Money for Surgery - India

[Tronic]

Wow!!

Anyway, here is a statistic showing rapes per 100,000 people for almost every country

Fourth most dangerous country in the world for women lmao

Most rapes in India go unreported due to the "honour" culture, where a raped woman is pretty much shunned by the whole society. So your figures don't tell the whole story.

[Officer of Engineers]

Simple question. How many murders committed by brothers and fathers of raped victims get ignored or let off? Neo once gave me examples in Pakistan where brothers and fathers shot down the offenders.

If it was my daughter, the fuck would not live! Period. I sincerely doubt Indian Officers on this board would let it slide ... and if they ask ... not that they would need help.

[anil]

Most rapes in India go unreported due to the "honour" culture, where a raped woman is pretty much shunned by the whole society. So your figures don't tell the whole story.

That's a pathetic excuse but that's the only excuse I get.

According to the figure, 1.8 indian women out of every 100,000 women is raped. Let me exaggerate and sensationalise a figure we can all be outraged with. Lets double the figure, in fact, lets multiply it by ten - so 10.8 indian women out of every 1000,000 is raped. Are you satisfied with 10.8? and can we take this as a base?

10.8 is between Solomon Islands 11 and Ecuadors 10.9. It gives india a rank of 41. The problem is that I can exaggerate it 10 times and we still don't make it in the top 10 list. It's still far away from the "4th most dangerous country in the world" mark.

[Tronic]

Simple question. How many murders committed by brothers and fathers of raped victims get ignored or let off? Neo once gave me examples in Pakistan where brothers and fathers shot down the offenders.

It takes more than a decade for a case to be decided so can't really say, Colonel. Though, girls of families capable of defending themselves are seldom picked on. The sick bastards usually prey on the weaker, poorer sections of society who are incapable of defending themselves. A hierarchy is followed, where the culprit usually comes from a wealthier, or stronger family than his victim.

[Tronic]

That's a pathetic excuse but that's the only excuse I get.

According to the figure, 1.8 indian women out of every 100,000 women is raped. Let me exaggerate and sensationalise a figure we can all be outraged with. Lets double the figure, in fact, lets multiply it by ten - so 10.8 indian women out of every 1000,000 is raped. Are you satisfied with 10.8? and can we take this as a base?

10.8 is between Solomon Islands 11 and Ecuadors 10.9. It gives india a rank of 41. The problem is that I can exaggerate it 10 times and we still don't make it in the top 10 list. It's still far away from the "4th most dangerous country in the world" mark.

It's not an excuse, it's reality. Can you tell me that there is no stigma against raped women, or their families, in India? Are they treated the same as the "virgin" women? Are guys, or their families, indifferent to marrying a raped women? You know the answers to those questions, and in those answers lies the fact why a lot of rape victims choose not to report the crime.

Second point. You are only taking into account one face of India. I think you forget the Indian aboriginal belt where there is no such thing as law and order. India's most populous state, UP, is also not that far behind.

[Doktor]

Guys, you are opening a never-ending debate. India is so vast and so multi-everything you can't make a general statement.

Try not to generalize.

[Officer of Engineers]

There is no generalizing. Most fathers love their daughters. Most fathers will kill for their daughters.

[Doktor]

Same goes for their sons.

My remark was about how India's females are treated. I'd guess that if Indian boy truly loves Indian girl, all of what Tronic said will fall. Same goes with families.

Now, I know there were cases with people killing their newborn daughters, but would guess that 9 out of 10 will love their kids.

[Tronic]

Same goes for their sons.

My remark was about how India's females are treated. I'd guess that if Indian boy truly loves Indian girl, all of what Tronic said will fall. Same goes with families.

Now, I know there were cases with people killing their newborn daughters, but would guess that 9 out of 10 will love their kids.

Dok, I wasn't trying to generalize. Merely addressing anil's assertion that rape is not that big of a problem. I can see why you would think that I am generalizing, and I have also in the past argued against Bigfella over Indian generalizations over this issue. Truth is, India is not one cultural or societal entity, so there is no one way that India's females are treated. How women are treated, culturally, in one region differs from another. The North is notorious for it's mistreatment of women and from there, it is generalized as some sort of "pan-Indian" problem, when it is not. The flaw however is in the judicial system, which is pan-Indian, so the criticism is fair. To shrug these crimes off as "it's not so bad as other countries", is IMO being naive to the reality of the country. It may not be "as bad as other countries" in Mumbai, anil's city, but that isn't the case in New Delhi. Mumbai and Delhi have a very different culture. Women can be out on the streets in Mumbai late at night by themselves and still feel safe, but the same isn't the case in Delhi. So it's hard to differentiate the two each time we discuss crimes against women in India, since India's judicial system has clearly failed society.

I will say that it is definitely not a gloom and doom scenario, and present day India is a whole lot better than what it was 60 years ago, but I don't feel there is anything wrong in pointing out and shaming the obvious flaws in the system, so that tomorrow they can be ironed out.

[Minskaya]

That's a pathetic excuse but that's the only excuse I get.

Unfortunately, that is the stark reality. As in most Middle East Arab countries, rape is grossly under-reported due to both fear and the societal stigma generated by an 'honor culture'. Even in Israel, Arab females are extremely reluctant to report sexual and honor crimes to the police. I recall one horrific case in which eight females of the Abu-Ghanem clan were murdered in a span of nine years by male family members before Israeli authorities were tipped off.

[lemontree]

No you did not. You referred to India as a whole, not the judicial aspect. A big difference right there.

She is not wrong. There is something seriously wrong in India, and as Indians we have to see what is wrong and solve it. Pointing parallels with the US is futile,...then you must also point out how in the US a politician or his kith and kin get pulled up by the law. Does that happen in our country?...NO. So please dont try and defend the undefendable. In our country it is ok to pee on the road side, but a crime for a couple to kiss.

[Big K]

i would kill the attackers myself after their release, if i was one of relatives of the victim...

[Blademaster]

Do you truly believe in those statistics?

Rapes are notoriously under-reported. Mozambique, at 0.2 - riiiight. Do you expect countries like Turkmenistan, Guinea, Armenia, etc etc etc to report true and accurate numbers?

I don't believe those statistics. It all depends on whether rapes are reported or not. I seriously suspect that the rapes are being underreported in India. People claim that New Delhi is the rape capital of India. I do not think so. I just think that there are far better reporting mechanisms in New Delhi than elsewhere.

[Blademaster]

She is not wrong. There is something seriously wrong in India, and as Indians we have to see what is wrong and solve it. Pointing parallels with the US is futile,...then you must also point out how in the US a politician or his kith and kin get pulled up by the law. Does that happen in our country?...NO. So please dont try and defend the undefendable. In our country it is ok to pee on the road side, but a crime for a couple to kiss.

In what way did I defend the undefendable? You are way off the mark ok? I accept that there is seriously something wrong with the Indian judicial and police system but I do not accept your assertions that there is something wrong with the Indian people as a whole. So don't try to emulate that crappy western way of paternalistic thinking towards India.

[bolo121]

Well those people who were threatening to burn down the presidential palace were not certainly media and public figure types. They were from different classes of society.

Those scenes on TV are just media TRP games. Its pretty easy to recognize for those of us living in india.

Well there are 300 million people in the middle class and growing and an overwhelming majority do not have that attitude you described. It may be prevalent in the villages but not in the cities and towns and I suspect that the perpetrators (the sh-t bag low scum) came from backward villages or uneducated backgrounds. Yes there is a huge working class population but that doesn't mean they represent the whole country.

I am Indian and I do not stand for this kind of crap nor tolerate this kind of crap. If i see a lowlife doing like this, I pray to God that God gives me the strength and courage to beat the fricking crap out of him and anybody who supports him or stand in my way. And I am not alone. What does that tell you?

I'm sorry but its not so. Even in middle classes attitudes towards women are still very derogatory especially in the rougher north part of the country.
I would absolutely love it if your words actually reflected the case in the country, that all are are angered and will not stand for it any more.

But go to times of india site and you will see the number of new rape cases just in the last week.

You really need to visit the big cities of the north, especially Delhi and remember how cruel we indians can be.
Its not only from affluence or education its the fundamental societal attitude towards women.

You are a very highly educated desi living in Florida if i remember correctly. So yes you are completely not typical of the people in india