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Haha, I do like the hydronium troll, and the interior shot of what must be either massive aux tanks for some hyper-extended-range plane, or a fire retardant tank system.
That's the thing about conspiracy geeks - sometimes, you get so tired of their childish clinging to such outrageous and shaky "facts" that you simply give up and say "Yup, you're right, I surrender, I must be part of that evil system" and feed them data to support their views just to see what they do with it.
Here's the twisted part... the guys reacting most aggressively to my troll are trying to defeat chemtrails with logic. The ones who are getting genuinely upset are the bored housewives like the one who decry our "hard hearts and ruination of our beautiful planet." In the end, I have probably promoted the chemtrails conspiracy more than I have helped defeat it, regardless of how I close this troll-fest.
I'll let it play out a couple more days. And then, I will take Tophatter's advise on how to come clean, something along the lines of
"As a military man, I swore an oath to defend this nation against all enemies foreign AND domestic. Anyone who would have me dump chemicals on people is a domestic enemy in my book. I'd blow the whistle on them in a heartbeat if it was real. But, it's not real."
Wait a minute it is not how the planes empty the toilets?:red:
You'd be shocked at the number of people who think the toilets simply vent overboard on an airliner. It's usually displayed when they tentatively ask if they can use the toilet on the ground, and are relieved when told it's OK to do so.
"Oh good, I thought it'd end up on the ground here at the airport."
I guess many of the old passenger trains had that sort of system. A hole to the track ties whirring by beneath the moving train.
That's the thing about conspiracy geeks - sometimes, you get so tired of their childish clinging to such outrageous and shaky "facts" that you simply give up and say "Yup, you're right, I surrender, I must be part of that evil system" and feed them data to support their views just to see what they do with it.
That i figure is the main reason you did it. Trying to explain things may have been a waste of time. But some of the answers you got suggested otherwise.
Here's the twisted part... the guys reacting most aggressively to my troll are trying to defeat chemtrails with logic. The ones who are getting genuinely upset are the bored housewives like the one who decry our "hard hearts and ruination of our beautiful planet." In the end, I have probably promoted the chemtrails conspiracy more than I have helped defeat it, regardless of how I close this troll-fest.
I did not get this bit, the persons challenging did have a point. Forget the ones that got upset.
I'll let it play out a couple more days. And then, I will take Tophatter's advise on how to come clean, something along the lines of
"As a military man, I swore an oath to defend this nation against all enemies foreign AND domestic. Anyone who would have me dump chemicals on people is a domestic enemy in my book. I'd blow the whistle on them in a heartbeat if it was real. But, it's not real."
Sounds like a good plan. There is no limit to imagination, i'd never heard of chemtrails until you brought it up here,
The kinds of argument i hear the most often is
- natural ie not man made or alternative vs conventional medical treatment.
- organic vs not organic and supposedly harmful
- anti-microwave ovens, this one still has its adherents
The people i've heard advance these arguments are all educated but try questioning them on some of the points or re-arrange some of the things they say and i don't find answers. It's like they just parrot out a sermon.
I guess many of the old passenger trains had that sort of system. A hole to the track ties whirring by beneath the moving train.
Chogy, you should have seen the remnants left in many German rail stations in the 1980s after units had been on 2 or 3 week field problems and were loaded on troop trains. Even if we ordered the troops not to, you could not fight the effects of 2 weeks of C - Rations!!!
“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
Good read so far, however it leaves one major question unanswered...
What are they? I've watched hundreds of jets pass over head, normal contrails widen and dissipate in minutes. I've seen "chemtrails" hang out over central Arkansas for hours on end in checkerboard patterns.
Though if Chogy really wanted to have fun he could introduce remotely piloted jets that spray a different mixture from an attachment on the belly of the plane. One of which was used to ram the WTC on 9-11. Blend the two together and watch the fur fly.
I had some fun with the many videos showing some mysterious object "welded" to the 9/11 767's. In a probably vain attempt to appeal to logic, I wrote w/sarcasm:
9/11 Evil Conspirator: "Hey guys, I've got a GREAT idea! Let's weld a BOMB to the outside of a 767!! Ignore the cavernous cargo holds and interior space where we could simply strap down our nano-thermite bomb. Welding the package to the outside is just way cooler."
The worst ones are those who claim some magical holographic system (which absolutely does not exist) somehow morphed the shape of a missile into a 767. The logic of stating "Any real mil-grade missile will probably smack at mach 2 or 3 and do infinitely more damage due to the warhead vs. burning fuel" is utterly lost.
Good read so far, however it leaves one major question unanswered...
What are they? I've watched hundreds of jets pass over head, normal contrails widen and dissipate in minutes. I've seen "chemtrails" hang out over central Arkansas for hours on end in checkerboard patterns.
They are water-vapor contrails. Their duration is 100% dependent on a large number of atmospheric phenomenon. Outside air temperature, altitude, winds aloft, dew-point, etc, all combine to either support or dissipate the con.
In the wintertime, winds aloft are usually >100 knots, which tend to tear the con apart rather quickly. In the summertime, sometimes the winds at 35,000' are just a couple of knots. Combined with other atmospheric parameters, it can cause cons to linger.
How about this data point? I fly a lot over the ocean. I see the cons there don't behave any differently than those over land or cities. There'd be no point in dumping chems over the ocean, would there? They are all the same. How about cirrus clouds? They are ice xtals. They linger for hours, and days.
I've been up in the stratosphere since 1985. Nothing has changed. What's happening is that people are looking skyward, with the "chemtrails" conspiracy on their minds, and they are seeing what they want to see.
The birds even get to stay in a hotel? Are you kidding me? Barracks ain't good enough? They had to stay in a hotel? Just how much more pampered can they get?
I guess many of the old passenger trains had that sort of system. A hole to the track ties whirring by beneath the moving train.
I had an old ford truck like that. Never was brave enough to go #2 while driving. Going #1 saved a lot of time on trips and had the extra benefit of limiting tailgaters.
Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.
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