Students kicked off Bus for speaking English.

[Dwarven Pirate]

EDIT: I work with a guy who speaks about as much english as I speak spanish, and thats next to nothing. I find it amusing. He will go on and on in spanish to me, laughing and joking, me not understanding a word of it, nor him to my replies. He said he doesn't care about learning english - he works in the US but lives in Mexico, expecting to retire there. Funny story - he got pulled over by the local cops a while ago, and they found out he had no driver's license, just a state ID card. Turns out he got that instead of a driver's license due to language problems. But everyone knows everyone here, and he'd been driving around here for seven years so they just laughed and told him to go get one the next day and let him drive home.

[Dwarven Pirate]

What I think it comes down to, though, is an outrageous headline, especially in these immigration times, taken somewhat out of context. Which, when you think about it, is rather outrageous. I mean, isn't that what most people say that if you go to live in a country, you should learn the language? Isn't that what the school district is trying to achieve here?

Twisted headline to 'create' a 'story'. They allude to a standing policy of each student riding the bus which serves his particular school, and that they've now decided to enforce this policy. So, the bus driver is told not to pick up kids that dont go to his school. His route likely goes past the school the kids attend and he's been dropping them off up til now, or something like that.

These kids are 12 and under. The bus driver may or may not have atempted to explain to them the reason he couldn't take them anymore, and they may or may not have understood him correctly. Confusion may have led him to just say "This bus is for people that dont speak english! Now sit down!"

You can see in the official's response that they dont apologize for the policy and that they aren't changing anything. They simply apologize for stranding the kids at school.

I dont know what they are actually trying to achieve by this. Could be some safety issue, or saving gas, or time, or maybe the bus drivers have been complaining or who knows. All in all, no big deal.

[Southie]

That's weird. If you float your cursor over the picture a little box with 4 buttons should appear on the upper left hand corner of that picture. Hit the little disc symbol and you can save that picture. It will work even if "right clicking" on the picture method is disabled by java script used by some sites.

Could have been operator error at the time! I was trying to work and have fun at the same time! :))

[gunnut]

That was the only way I could get the picture. If I had done it at home I would have been able to.

That's weird. If you float your cursor over the picture a little box with 4 buttons should appear on the upper left hand corner of that picture. Hit the little disc symbol and you can save that picture. It will work even if "right clicking" on the picture method is disabled by java script used by some sites.

[Southie]

Aha you copied the image and saved it on a word document rather than as a jpg file.

That was the only way I could get the picture. If I had done it at home I would have been able to.

[gunnut]

Aha you copied the image and saved it on a word document rather than as a jpg file.

[Southie]

^^ Ur pic doesnt work but I think I have an idea of what you're talking about.

Sorry if this is offensive to anyone simply giving an example.
http://hangrightpolitics.com/wp-cont...04/english.jpg


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That's it! Although the shirt doesn't have the part about "Or Get Out". I wasn't sure if it would work or not. Computers at school aren't the best!

I am also sorry if anyone finds it offensive, but I constantly deal with parents that refuse to speak english and always need a translator. And they wonder why their kids fail the FCAT (Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test), and can't graduate. Thanks!!! :))

[Shadowsided]

^^ Ur pic doesnt work but I think I have an idea of what you're talking about.

Sorry if this is offensive to anyone simply giving an example.
http://hangrightpolitics.com/wp-cont...04/english.jpg


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[Southie]

My daughter found a shirt on the internet that I want to wear at school. Although I would probably get in trouble for it!

[tankie]

It wouldn not have surprised me to find it was a bus in the UK

Hey B/D pigs brains and the rest of the head make luvverly brawn .

[Brian Douglas]

Brain's

Foreign languages, no, but the article does say

"However, the district points out, that particular bus route serves one of three language academies. The one at Phalen Lake is for Hmong students learning English"

What affect native English speakers would have on such students, I don't know. It has often been pointed out, such as in litature (ie, "My Fair Lady") however, that those who learn English as a foreign language speak it better than native speakers. As noted by another in this post, there may have been a safety reason between the passengers and the driver.

What I think it comes down to, though, is an outrageous headline, especially in these immigration times, taken somewhat out of context. Which, when you think about it, is rather outrageous. I mean, isn't that what most people say that if you go to live in a country, you should learn the language? Isn't that what the school district is trying to achieve here?
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("Ohhhh, the menu is in French. Wait, there is a word I know. Poisson. That's fish, right? Deux Poissons, c'est vous plaiz." Kelly to Brenda and the waiter. The plates arrive in a few minutes with a cream on them.
"Never seen fish like that before. Odd consistency, funny taste."--Kelly
"Give me the dictionary, please,"--Brenda, thumbs through, finds the word, spits out the food. "It's brains!" and Kelly spits it out as well., (w,stte), "Beverly Hills, 90210")

Brenda, thumbs through, finds the word, spits out the food. "It's brains!" and Kelly spits it out as well. Were I live brains are good food, we eat "Crier de proc" which in English is Pigs brains regular and a good meal too!!
Cheers,
Brian..

[SnowLeopard]

Foreign languages, no, but the article does say

"However, the district points out, that particular bus route serves one of three language academies. The one at Phalen Lake is for Hmong students learning English"

What affect native English speakers would have on such students, I don't know. It has often been pointed out, such as in litature (ie, "My Fair Lady") however, that those who learn English as a foreign language speak it better than native speakers. As noted by another in this post, there may have been a safety reason between the passengers and the driver.

What I think it comes down to, though, is an outrageous headline, especially in these immigration times, taken somewhat out of context. Which, when you think about it, is rather outrageous. I mean, isn't that what most people say that if you go to live in a country, you should learn the language? Isn't that what the school district is trying to achieve here?
----------------------------------------------------
("Ohhhh, the menu is in French. Wait, there is a word I know. Poisson. That's fish, right? Deux Poissons, c'est vous plaiz." Kelly to Brenda and the waiter. The plates arrive in a few minutes with a cream on them.
"Never seen fish like that before. Odd consistency, funny taste."--Kelly
"Give me the dictionary, please,"--Brenda, thumbs through, finds the word, spits out the food. "It's brains!" and Kelly spits it out as well., (w,stte), "Beverly Hills, 90210")

[Ray]

We-ll.......................

it sort of reminds me of my French class in high school. One lost points if they spoke Anglais, err, English in the class. I didn't speak up much in that class. (3yrs of French/1 yr of Arabic in grade school)

But it sounds reasonable, yes? I mean, one is there to learn French, to not just translate it but think in French, so there is a reason.

When it comes to language training, one needs to be ready to make exceptions to how things are usually. It sounds like this was one of those situations though the school should have informed everyone.
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("Nina, you're late, why?"
"Well, I got into the wrong limo and ended up at the Peruvian embassy. Through the miscommunication and language barrier, there was a lot of anger but I finally convinced them to get me ride here. By the way, if we are at war with Peru in morning, I'm the reason."--Nina Van Horn, (w,stte), Just Shoot Me! "The Auction")

Why, is the school (that is mentioned) for imparting foreign languages?

[SnowLeopard]

We-ll.......................

it sort of reminds me of my French class in high school. One lost points if they spoke Anglais, err, English in the class. I didn't speak up much in that class. (3yrs of French/1 yr of Arabic in grade school)

But it sounds reasonable, yes? I mean, one is there to learn French, to not just translate it but think in French, so there is a reason.

When it comes to language training, one needs to be ready to make exceptions to how things are usually. It sounds like this was one of those situations though the school should have informed everyone.
----------------------------------
("Nina, you're late, why?"
"Well, I got into the wrong limo and ended up at the Peruvian embassy. Through the miscommunication and language barrier, there was a lot of anger but I finally convinced them to get me ride here. By the way, if we are at war with Peru in morning, I'm the reason."--Nina Van Horn, (w,stte), Just Shoot Me! "The Auction")

[leib10]

Not surprised at this.