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  • Originally posted by DOR View Post

    Strange as it may seem, you're not the first person to think about possible solutions. Prisoner fire work teams, for example, are a long and storied history here.

    The California Aqueduct was built 60 years ago, and the Colorado River Aqueduct some 30 years before that. But, Mother Nature doesn't always keep the rains and snows flowing in quantities -- and over lengths of time -- to provide sufficient water. L.A. is a desert, and 10 million people need a lot of water.

    Wind mills ... anyone know how well they work under extreme conditions? Off the top of my head, I'd say they have limits, but I like where you're going with that.
    Dragging a berg through Bering straight, maybe? Its fresh water, you could tow it melt it and refill water supply for situations like this. But it would need to be quick before it melts away, but with sufficient vessel or vessels it might be doable. On the second thought, it doesn't have to be water. If you could build a pipeline filled with CO2 as the fire approaches, the gas heats up and than valves open and you have the same effect. CO2 is heavy so it will stick to the ground and prevent combustion. The only issue is, and I am not a chemist, would it produce side effect like creating carbon monoxide or something even worse. Basically you would do carbon capture and use it to do something good when its needed. Its not like we lack co2 anyhow. Plus you can make a perimeter so that fire does what it nautraly does but when it gets close to homes, co2 activates and its done. You get rid of the undergrowth and spare the houses and the damage.
    Last edited by Versus; 15 Jan 25,, 17:41.

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    • Originally posted by Versus View Post

      Dragging a berg through Bering straight, maybe? Its fresh water, you could tow it melt it and refill water supply for situations like this. But it would need to be quick before it melts away, but with sufficient vessel or vessels it might be doable. On the second thought, it doesn't have to be water. If you could build a pipeline filled with CO2 as the fire approaches, the gas heats up and than valves open and you have the same effect. CO2 is heavy so it will stick to the ground and prevent combustion. The only issue is, and I am not a chemist, would it produce side effect like creating carbon monoxide or something even worse. Basically you would do carbon capture and use it to do something good when its needed. Its not like we lack co2 anyhow. Plus you can make a perimeter so that fire does what it nautraly does but when it gets close to homes, co2 activates and its done. You get rid of the undergrowth and spare the houses and the damage.
      Be sure to issue every man, woman, child, dog, cat, horse, goat, cow, sheep, (yada yada yada) with an oxygen tank!
      Trust me?
      I'm an economist!

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      • Originally posted by DOR View Post

        Be sure to issue every man, woman, child, dog, cat, horse, goat, cow, sheep, (yada yada yada) with an oxygen tank!
        Well, we are not trying to recreate Venus atmosphere here. But, I've analyzed the fires. Fire is not the biggest issue, winds are. Challenge, no doubt about it.

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        • No conventional solution would work, either fixed or rotary wing with winds like the ones you have there. This requires some pretty extreme unconventional out of the box thinking.

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          • Meanwhile, I have something nice....Oh YEAH!!!
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            • Snow was not something I had on my Bingo Card for 2025. Been living in NW Florida for around 23 years and this is the first time its snowed enough to stick.

              Local weather said we had 5-6in.

              Looked out the window last Wednesday morning Asked the Wife "Remember what this stuff is?" and like the Jarhead wife she is said back "Yea, the Crap we moved down here to get away from."

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              • GS, I like your wife.
                Chimo

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                • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                  GS, I like your wife.
                  Whereas I fear her wrath!
                  If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                  • Originally posted by Monash View Post

                    Whereas I fear her wrath!

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                    • This one's for Col. Yu

                      How much hongbao money do people give in China?

                      In China, a red packet or hongbao is a gift of money symbolising good luck and blessings for the New Year. However, the customs surrounding red packets vary widely across regions. ThinkChina’s Lu Lingming and Yi Jina get people from different regions of China to share their experiences.

                      In China, it is clear that red packet customs differ significantly, even between neighbouring provinces. In Guangdong, red packets are usually more symbolic, with even close relatives typically giving amounts between 100 and 200 RMB (approximately US$15-30). In contrast, neighbouring Fujian province has a tradition of more generous gifting, with the amount of money received in red packets possibly being ten to 100 times higher than in Guangdong. Meanwhile, residents from Sichuan, Zhejiang, Shanghai, Beijing and other regions have their own practices as well.

                      When asked whether the sums of money to prepare for red packets would create financial pressures, opinions varied. Many young people felt that receiving hongbaos would not feel burdensome. However, for those giving out hongbaos, some admitted feeling some financial strain, maybe due to the overall economic downturn or the transition from being a student to an adult.

                      As for the future of this tradition, individuals from different age groups had varying views. Older individuals believed that red packets would continue as an integral part of Chinese culture, while younger people suggested that the custom may lose its ceremonial significance or evolve into new forms in the digital age.


                      https://www.thinkchina.sg/culture/vox-pop-how-much-hongbao-money-do-people-give-china?ref=top-hero
                      Trust me?
                      I'm an economist!

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                      • Canadian Chinese tradition is whichever single bill can fit into the envelop. $5, $10, $20, $50, $100. The exception is when you want to give more. My daughter gets 10x$100 CAD even though she lives in the US. My granddaughter gets $5 because Mom says so. My son-in-law gets nothing.
                        Chimo

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                        • Always brings warmth to my heart.
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTW...&start_radio=1

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