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[Gun Grape]

Must have been loud today what with United Airlines, Fat Albert, and the Blue Angles flying today and tomorrow.

Thats not loud.

Thats The SOUND OF FREEDOM

[DOR]

So instead of living in Berkeley you have a condo in Fort Mason? Must have been loud today what with United Airlines, Fat Albert, and the Blue Angles flying today and tomorrow.

Exactly: right across the street from SE corner of Ft Mason.
Car alarms going off all afternoon!

[tbm3fan]

Thats not loud.

Thats The SOUND OF FREEDOM

My view yesterday from the O7 Level on the USS Hornet. Clear blue skies and 78 degrees over the bay.

[tbm3fan]

Exactly: right across the street from SE corner of Ft Mason.
Car alarms going off all afternoon!

What you heard was nothing. In 1999 the Blue Angels actually flew directly over the USS Hornet after leaving Oakland Airport. They were so low their exhaust wafted down onto the flight deck. The sound was ear splitting and into the range for max decibels for the human ear. Kids were crying on the flight deck. Car alarms going off everywhere. Then the phone calls to Hornet Security complaining about OUR jets. Word must have filtered down as the following year they flew higher and slightly east of the Hornet over the Oakland Estuary instead like they did today.

Yesterday everyone was in the act. A United Airlines Boeing 777 doing low passes over the Bay from the Golden Gate Bridge and then sharp pull out when passing Alcatraz. The Navy had their parachutists. Coast Guard involved with some of their aircraft. Friday Beale had the U-2. Some Huey's, an F-35B, L-39s, T-6 Texan, C-130

You were here 81-83 as you say and 81 was the first year as Diane Feinstein arranged for it. I have seen many a Parade of Ships from atop the bluff just below at Battery East. Haven't seen any lately being in the East Bay and the fact that carriers don't make the event. Bring a carrier and I am there.

[tbm3fan]

One thing I recall was an Admiral in either 1987 or 88 calling San Francisco Sodom and Gomorrah. I guess he was never at Subic, Olangopo and Clark Air Base in Angeles. I have and San Francisco wouldn't hold a candle to them back then. Pictures can tell the story but not on this board.

[DOR]

What you heard was nothing. In 1999 the Blue Angels actually flew directly over the USS Hornet after leaving Oakland Airport. They were so low their exhaust wafted down onto the flight deck. The sound was ear splitting and into the range for max decibels for the human ear. Kids were crying on the flight deck. Car alarms going off everywhere. Then the phone calls to Hornet Security complaining about OUR jets. Word must have filtered down as the following year they flew higher and slightly east of the Hornet over the Oakland Estuary instead like they did today.

Yesterday everyone was in the act. A United Airlines Boeing 777 doing low passes over the Bay from the Golden Gate Bridge and then sharp pull out when passing Alcatraz. The Navy had their parachutists. Coast Guard involved with some of their aircraft. Friday Beale had the U-2. Some Huey's, an F-35B, L-39s, T-6 Texan, C-130

You were here 81-83 as you say and 81 was the first year as Diane Feinstein arranged for it. I have seen many a Parade of Ships from atop the bluff just below at Battery East. Haven't seen any lately being in the East Bay and the fact that carriers don't make the event. Bring a carrier and I am there.

Battery East, exactly where we spent most of the day. Then, over to our rooftop for the main event.
The one thing that annoyed me more than anything was a "Spare the Air" day on Thursday, followed by three days of heavy, deliberate pollution.
That, and the United flights. What are they trying to prove?

[tbm3fan]

Battery East, exactly where we spent most of the day. Then, over to our rooftop for the main event.
The one thing that annoyed me more than anything was a "Spare the Air" day on Thursday, followed by three days of heavy, deliberate pollution.
That, and the United flights. What are they trying to prove?

Oh, come on, a few days of planes flying overhead is only a very small part of all the cars that were travelling those days.

As for United Airlines how often does one ever get to see a triple 7 fly that low over the water intentionally? Me, I think it is cool just like some hands out behind SFO to watch the planes land. I used to do that at Lindberg. Anyway, United was celebrating, if you will, their inauguration of non-stop service between SFO and MNL. So another choice to the Philippines for us.

[tbm3fan]

Here is another which is a two fer since I love planes and cars. Note the cars which didn't strike me back then but today it is an amazing collection long gone. Can you date without looking at photo info?

[JRT]

Here is another which is a two fer since I love planes and cars. Note the cars which didn't strike me back then but today it is an amazing collection long gone. Can you date without looking at photo info?

I will try.

The ponycar on the right near the railroad sign looks like a model year 1968 Mustang GT California Special.

5 cars to the front of that, leftward, is a GM X-platform of a body style from model year 1968 thru 74, but the bumpers look like the weaker more flush type used prior to the 1973 model year. X-platform of that generation included Chevy Nova, Pontiac Ventura, Buick Apollo, or Oldsmobile Omega. The Nova came first in 68, followed by the Ventura in 71, and the Apollo and Omega both in 73. The tailights might be a 1971 Ventura. Not sure. Ventura had wider tailights than Nova. A 1971 model might have been seen on the street in Q4 1970.

Near right, adjacent to the Ford Thunderbird is a German Ford Capri badge engineered into the US market as a Mercury Capri for model years 1970 thru 1973 with that front bumper, which grew larger for 1974.

A little further down the row is an air cooled VW Beetle, with what looks like late-60s tail lights, maybe 1968. Can't see the shape of the windshield.

So as a minimum date from the model years, I would suggest 1970 Capri, or maybe 1971 Ventura. Those cars could have been parked there this morning, so the cars don't well define a near-end bracketing date.

[tbm3fan]

I will try.

The ponycar on the right near the railroad sign looks like a model year 1968 Mustang GT California Special.

5 cars to the front of that, leftward, is a GM X-platform of a body style from model year 1968 thru 74, but the bumpers look like the weaker more flush type used prior to the 1973 model year. X-platform of that generation included Chevy Nova, Pontiac Ventura, Buick Apollo, or Oldsmobile Omega. The Nova came first in 68, followed by the Ventura in 71, and the Apollo and Omega both in 73. The tailights might be a 1971 Ventura. Not sure. Ventura had wider tailights than Nova. A 1971 model might have been seen on the street in Q4 1970.

Near right, adjacent to the Ford Thunderbird is a German Ford Capri badge engineered into the US market as a Mercury Capri for model years 1970 thru 1973 with that front bumper, which grew larger for 1974.

A little further down the row is an air cooled VW Beetle, with what looks like late-60s tail lights, maybe 1968. Can't see the shape of the windshield.

So as a minimum date from the model years, I would suggest 1970 Capri, or maybe 1971 Ventura. Those cars could have been parked there this morning, so the cars don't well define a near-end bracketing date.

The car five down could be a Venture but also could be a 68 Javelin since the back ends look very similar. Anyway the date of the picture is 1973.

[JRT]

The new Orwellian Fords...

20 October 2024
Ford Mustang 2024 , It's A Great Car, But...
(12 min, 49 sec)

Ford's 2024 Ecoboost Mustang with the Performance Package is awesome. However it's watching your every move and could turn you in.

And, its not just Ford...

09 December 2022
Cops Are Extracting Data From 10,000 Different Car Models’ Infotainment Systems
(02 min, 20 sec)

As cybersecurity researchers detail a flaw that allowed them to unlock and start Honda and Nissan cars from anywhere in the world, border and immigration agencies are buying up tech to exploit weaknesses in vehicle security.

Full story:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasb...ce-cbp-love-it

18 May 2023
Don’t Plug Your Phone Into a Rental Car!
(0 min, 54 sec)

And an interesting related US patent application from Ford...

01 March 2023
Ford's repo patent is an episode of Black Mirror waiting to happen

Link to the patent image (pdf):
https://www.youtube.com/redirect?eve...&v=oR0PpUYhtcs

[Albany Rifles]

This has got to be the coolest thing I have ever heard on NPR's All Things Considered!

This is why I am a donating member!!!

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/24/12083...-100-years-old

[DOR]

So, Friday we received the money for selling our house in Orlando.
Over the weekend, we looked at a couple of places, just getting a feel for the market.
On Monday, we made and offer and Tuesday it was accepted.

Third time my wife and I have bought property (a) when were weren't intending to; and (b) over a weekend, start to finish. The first two were extremely good investments, so I'm just taking Advil for the mental whiplash and riding it out ...

[Versus]

Every household should have at least one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPW_HeOHA1E

[Versus]

Perfect logic in all my bosses minds.