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  • #16
    Specs on his "His main computer"???

    Does he have a file server?


    • #17
      Originally posted by taygone View Post
      I heard MACs won't get many viruses and stuff because it's not worth time and effort to write virus programs for MACs. I want a MAC mainly for that reason. I'll wait until the verdict is in on what everybody has to say.
      Not true at all anymore. There are a$$holes everywhere. We get as many virus IDs for Mac as we do Intel ( including Linux OS - and as many OS patches too!)


      • #18
        Originally posted by texasjohn View Post
        Not true at all anymore. There are a$$holes everywhere. We get as many virus IDs for Mac as we do Intel ( including Linux OS - and as many OS patches too!)


        • #19
          Mac OS X hacked under 30 minutes

          Munir Kotadia, ZDNet Australia

          06 March 2006 01:58 PM
          update Gaining root access to a Mac is "easy pickings," according to an individual who won an OS X hacking challenge last month by gaining root control of a machine using an unpublished security vulnerability.

          On February 22, a Sweden-based Mac enthusiast set his Mac Mini as a server and invited hackers to break through the computer's security and gain root control, which would allow the attacker to take charge of the computer and delete files and folders or install applications.

          Participants were given local client access to the target computer and invited to try their luck.

          Within hours of going live, the "rm-my-mac" competition was over. The challenger posted this message on his Web site: "This sucks. Six hours later this poor little Mac was owned and this page got defaced".

          The hacker that won the challenge, who asked ZDNet Australia to identify him only as "gwerdna", said he gained root control of the Mac in less than 30 minutes.

          "It probably took about 20 or 30 minutes to get root on the box. Initially I tried looking around the box for certain mis-configurations and other obvious things but then I decided to use some unpublished exploits -- of which there are a lot for Mac OS X," gwerdna told ZDNet Australia .

          According to gwerdna, the hacked Mac could have been better protected, but it would not have stopped him because he exploited a vulnerability that has not yet been made public or patched by Apple.

          "The rm-my-mac challenge was setup similar to how you would have a Mac acting as a server -- with various remote services running and local access to users… There are various Mac OS X hardening guides out there that could have been used to harden the machine, however, it wouldn't have stopped the vulnerability I used to gain access.

          "There are only limited things you can do with unknown and unpublished vulnerabilities. One is to use additional hardening patches -- good examples for Linux are the PaX patch and the grsecurity patches. They provide numerous hardening options on the system, and implement non-executable memory, which prevent memory based corruption exploits," said gwerdna.

          Gwerdna concluded that OS X contains "easy pickings" when it comes to vulnerabilities that could allow hackers to break into Apple's operating system.

          "Mac OS X is easy pickings for bug finders. That said, it doesn't have the market share to really interest most serious bug finders," added gwerdna.

          Apple's OS X has come under fire in recent weeks with the appearance of two viruses and a number of serious security flaws, which have since been patched by the Mac maker.

          In January, security researcher Neil Archibald, who has already been credited with finding numerous vulnerabilities in OS X, told ZDNet Australia that he knows of numerous security vulnerabilities in Apple's operating system that could be exploited by attackers.

          "The only thing which has kept Mac OS X relatively safe up until now is the fact that the market share is significantly lower than that of Microsoft Windows or the more common UNIX platforms.… If this situation was to change, in my opinion, things could be a lot worse on Mac OS X than they currently are on other operating systems," said Archibald at the time.

          An Apple Australia spokeswoman said today it was unable to comment at this stage.
          Mac OS X hacked under 30 minutes: News - Security - ZDNet Australia

          lokks like the higher security thing is overrated for macs. I know microsoft came out vista(several version). I keep hearing its eerily creppy how similar it to MAc's OS.Although i'm not going to say itsa copy its still quite creepy.It's supposed to be better but the real question is vista ultimate vs leopard?

          PC's are better with games and all applications work, generic devices also work. The PC guy inthe youtube vid sure wasnt kidding when he was talking about applications or the generics LOL! The mac guy was just bragging.
          Last edited by Shadowsided; 19 Jul 07,, 00:54.


          • #20
            Mac or PC?

            Love the graphics capabilities of the mac (yeah, so much that my pal with a mac has to drag me kicking and screaming from it), though as a software developer most of my clients run windows on x86 architecture, so to keep it simple I run a PC, loaded with XP and Ubuntu.

            Then that DIY cheap upgradability thingy that is offered by the PC, and software for Africa(no pun intended).


            So as a compromise, I'm cooking up a new Platform to be known as the PacMan, or the MacPac, to be used with OS XP

            The greatest instrument of moral good is the imagination.