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  • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Of course it was genetic engineered. Mother Nature did it.
    Why can't we find any of it in the wild then ? They know the hosts of these viruses.

    Maybe i should rephrase that. The CCP won't allow outsiders into China to conduct such a hunt.

    Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    *** sigh *** Every bio weapons expert I've read STATED this is beyond current expertise. The gap is just too wide. Have you seen a chickensaurus yet? In theory we could do it? Have we? And we've been freaking trying.
    The one i quoted said there were no signs it was GM modified. The one that got falsely accused for Anthrax attack after 9/11 We've since gone beyond that.

    As to how you do it, serial passage. Tweak the virus. Infect twenty mice. Take the sickest one and stick in a batch of another twenty. Take the sickest one and put it in another batch and so on.

    If it does not work, then try a different tweak. Rinse & repeat. Why is this not plausible to you. Or do you have a source that says so.

    You are not making it per se, but you are assisting its evolution in a targeted way. That is how you bridge the 50 years gap.

    You can't make it otherwise. It would be a crap shoot.

    All thanks to Ralph Baric.

    Didn't you read the particles highlighting Dazak asking for grants from DARPA to do just this. He got turned down because they thought it was too dangerous.

    So it means it is possible then. Yes ?

    Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Ok, I have a theory that will explain it all. The Martians did it.
    I'll stick with what Trump called it.
    Last edited by Double Edge; 22 Nov 21,, 22:03.

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    • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
      Why can't we find any of it in the wild then ? They know the hosts of these viruses.
      I am NOT going to accuse extremely reputable scientists who came up with vaccines for ebola and other SARS-xxx pathogens of unethical wrongdoings when we have absolutely zero intel on the matter. It doesn't matter that we have not found it. What we do know that every spieces that was EVER in WIV was tested, including from the very regions where they were collected, and found lacking. What this means is that WIV CANNOT be the source. We have tested every knowable source of virus entry to the WIV and found lacking. Not one sample we've collected can be used as the basis for SARS-COV-2.

      Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
      As to how you do it, serial passage. Tweak the virus. Infect twenty mice. Take the sickest one and stick in a batch of another twenty. Take the sickest one and put it in another batch and so on.

      If it does not work, then try a different tweak. Rinse & repeat. Why is this not plausible to you. Or do you have a source that says so.
      Do the freaking math. Takes 2 weeks for each generation (10 days incubation to full blown symptoms).

      Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
      You are not making it per se, but you are assisting its evolution in a targeted way. That is how you bridge the 50 years gap.
      Given how many evolutionary dead ends you're going to encounter along the way, it will take you 100 years using this method. Nature got billions of animals to play with. You've got what? A few hundred at a time?

      Even a dumbass engineer like me can see the flaw in this horse puckey.

      Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
      I'll stick with what Trump called it.
      The Martians have better odds at being right than Trump.
      Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 23 Nov 21,, 15:38.
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      • What to make of this ?

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        https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/stat...84211364757510


        This is layman's speak of what was officially said here

        What is the value of creating a variant with enhanced lethality?

        Ebright : For the researchers:
        (1) career advancement, and
        (2) transgression (the more transgressive, the more easily and more prominently publishable).

        For the funders: biodefense (bioweapons-agent discovery).
        ????

        Last edited by Double Edge; 24 Nov 21,, 22:49.

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