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  • snapper
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    Karma and brexit discussions are on hold.

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  • Pedicabby
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    Originally posted by snapper View Post
    Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid 19. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52060791
    What's that gotta do with BREXIT? Do tell.

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  • Double Edge
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    Originally posted by snapper View Post
    Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid 19. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52060791
    Here's hoping he beats it and inspires people.

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  • snapper
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    Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid 19. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52060791

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  • zara
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    Brexit: I'm gonna f*k everything up

    Corona: Hold my beer

    At least we get another year until real brexit.

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  • snapper
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    Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
    Ask them and let us know how you do : )
    I can and the 'remainers' are far 'go out and get them' free trade than the petty little Englanders willing to see the UK break up.


    Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
    Didn't say remain was the emotional party here.
    My apologies for misreading your earlier post.

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  • Double Edge
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    Originally posted by snapper View Post
    How did free trade with over 80 nations with EU membership make them 'little Englanders'? It is precisely what they fought Bonaparte for.
    Ask them and let us know how you do : )

    Nor is the remain reasoning in any way 'emotional' as opposed to your invocation of 'spirit' to 'do whatever it takes' which may be necessary in war but is not appropriate for managing an economy.
    Didn't say remain was the emotional party here.

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  • snapper
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    How did free trade with over 80 nations with EU membership make them 'little Englanders'? It is precisely what they fought Bonaparte for.

    Nor is the remain reasoning in any way 'emotional' as opposed to your invocation of 'spirit' to 'do whatever it takes' which may be necessary in war but is not appropriate for managing an economy.

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  • Double Edge
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    Remaining in the EU kept them 'little Englanders'. This is the part that grates with their old grand narrative.

    Apart they want to make their own way. Regain their identity.

    Entirely emotionally driven. Reason isn't going to work.

    They either make it or die trying to.
    Last edited by Double Edge; 05 Mar 20,, 19:52.

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  • snapper
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    The UK is not at war. I agree though that that outgoing confidence of past times seems to have been lost - they have become 'little Englanders' who like think they will roar as of old. The 'Continental System' of Bonaparte that they fought and died to pull apart to increase free trade in Europe they have now, for a this Government's tenure of Office, willingly self imposed.
    Last edited by snapper; 05 Mar 20,, 19:16.

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  • Double Edge
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    Originally posted by snapper View Post
    How appallingly laughable... "all you need is the good old British Bulldog spirit". 'Spirit' of any kind does not put food on the table, it does not pick all the fruit and vegetables the migrant labourers previously did that made farms profitable, it does not allow UK manufactures to get their just in time components from the continent, it will not stop massive road blocks all through Kent next year that will cost lives. You cannot live on 'spirit' alone.
    Yes, that bulldog spirit of faith and confidence to prevail against the odds. That you are knocking.

    Go back two hundred years and see the fixes the Brits have had to muddle their way through.

    End of the 18th century. Lost the US. French & Spanish pushing you every where.

    End of the 19th century. Rise of the US, Russia, Germany & Japan. These days people are so afraid of just the rise of China.

    The two world wars

    I'm amazed the british empire lasted as long as it did. I'd have thought its demise a good half century or more prior.

    We live in a British ordered world of whom the Americans are the latest cheerleaders.

    Still finding this laughable ?

    To be frank that bulldog spirit is gone. They need to resurrect it.
    Last edited by Double Edge; 05 Mar 20,, 15:10.

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  • snapper
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    Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
    They been in a spot of trouble numerous times over the last couple of centuries but have managed to get through.

    That is the spirit Brexit wants to invoke.

    This is a time for doing not FUD.
    How appallingly laughable... "all you need is the good old British Bulldog spirit". 'Spirit' of any kind does not put food on the table, it does not pick all the fruit and vegetables the migrant labourers previously did that made farms profitable, it does not allow UK manufactures to get their just in time components from the continent, it will not stop massive road blocks all through Kent next year that will cost lives. You cannot live on 'spirit' alone.

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  • Double Edge
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    Originally posted by zara View Post
    The UK is in deep trouble.
    They been in a spot of trouble numerous times over the last couple of centuries but have managed to get through.

    That is the spirit Brexit wants to invoke.

    This is a time for doing not FUD.
    Last edited by Double Edge; 04 Mar 20,, 04:43.

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  • Double Edge
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    Originally posted by zara View Post
    Im not sure what you mean by that... The Withdrawal Agreement is now international law, lodged at the UN.
    That includes the hard border in the Irish Sea. Better than a land border with the Republic for sure, but the unionist community are furious!
    They'll get over it. Not furious enough to unite with the south.

    Polls show that most conservative voters and brexiteers see losing Scotland as an acceptable price to pay for brexit.
    Not what i gather the man at 10 Downing street will agree with

    The Tories are no longer conservatives - they are radicals, led by Dominic Cummings (Who the Germans have called a Maoist)
    I see a populist streak that was necessary to defeat Labour. It worked. Now they need to deliver on what people voted them in for.

    Corbyn was a jihadi sympathiser.

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  • zara
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    Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
    But that is the way NI remains in the UK.

    Scots think they can make it on their own ? guess they have the same condition as the English then : D

    Never met an english person who did not like the UK the way it is.

    Im not sure what you mean by that... The Withdrawal Agreement is now international law, lodged at the UN.
    That includes the hard border in the Irish Sea. Better than a land border with the Republic for sure, but the unionist community are furious!

    Polls show that most conservative voters and brexiteers see losing Scotland as an acceptable price to pay for brexit.

    The Tories are no longer conservatives - they are radicals, led by Dominic Cummings (Who the Germans have called a Maoist)

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