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  • tankie
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    Originally posted by citanon View Post
    Exactly (except the Muslim part). Also, did you guys notice Merkel and Holland already signaling their negotiation bottom lines?

    For Merkel it was the four freedoms, of which immigration will be the stickler.

    Hollande apparently wants to be bought off with some banking activity.

    Guess what's not off the table for these two: everything else.

    Predictably the Spanish called Scotland remaining in EU on its own a nonstarter.

    If Britain plays this right it might make out well indeed.
    I hope and pray it does , brexit has been the catalyst to galvanise the "elites" into realisation and perhaps action FOR THE COUNTRY , and not just easy peezy kinnock / b,liar cash in their veryyyyyyy deep pockets .

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  • tankie
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    EXPERIENCE the thrill of being a conservative MP by stabbing as many people in the back as you can.

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  • drhuy
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    Originally posted by kato View Post

    As for a democratic mandate, since when is Britain a democracy?
    no sooner than when german selected Hitler in a democratic election.

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  • tankie
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    Originally posted by Parihaka View Post
    Your army is far too professional.
    And along came cromwell Iian ,,hahaha , another wouldnt be a bad idea to show the pollys who and why put them where they are ,,but it only lasted a few short years for Olly as well before it all went tits up again .

    Cameron should TODAY ,,NOW invoke sec 50 lisbon and lets get on with it , rebuild industries , put the great back into Britain , many countries are voicing they will trade willingly with the UK after brexit , after all the b/s that came from obamma , the USA is one of them , even after he stated we would be back of the Q if we voted out , seems like hes changed his rhetoric .
    Last edited by tankie; 01 Jul 16,, 11:09.

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  • tankie
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    Originally posted by cataphract View Post
    The two are indistinguishable. Your schizophrenic politics is a reflection of a schizophrenic society, especially since we're talking about a referendum here.

    The politics is im agreed is in meltdown with the selfservative politicians ,,not one had a party had or has a plan for brexit , they all thought it would be a remain vote , the brexit vote was far larger than they thought as the fraud ,in, votes were not enough to get them past the post , more misplanning ?

    Please DO NOT categorise the UK as a whole as skittsos . That stinks of xenophobia
    Last edited by tankie; 01 Jul 16,, 10:55.

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  • Doktor
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    Originally posted by cataphract View Post
    The two are indistinguishable. Your schizophrenic politics is a reflection of a schizophrenic society, especially since we're talking about a referendum here.
    I would strongly disagree their politics is schizo.

    They called Germany twice and that led to world wars, guess who was at fault.

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  • Squirrel
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    Originally posted by zraver View Post
    Ah contrare' FP run by elites is how we get wars, austerity programs forced on to nations like Greece, bananas without any bend.... The EU was very good for Germany, gypsies and the British financial sector... not so good for many rank and file citizens. There is a reason the right is surging in Europe. From pensioners damn near starving in Greece, short skirts becoming a carte blanche for sexual assault by moslems in many urban centers, flat lined economic growth, high unemployment...
    So, taking loans against the credit of your neighbors to support bloated social welfare programs with no way to pay them back should be tolerated? Greece has been a financial sponge to the EU. They got their people accustomed to huge benefits programs in return for producing next to nothing. Greece created their situation, and made the rest of Europe pay for it.

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  • Squirrel
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    Originally posted by troung View Post
    Issue really seems to have brought out the worst kind of snobbishness from the self proclaimed experts...
    I couldn't agree more. I love absurdity, and many here are providing it in both quantity and quality. I have never seen as many offensive comments made towards people civilly expressing their opinions on this forum than in this thread. It's bizarre when the people constantly launching attacks are doing so from a position of absolute opinion asserted as fact only because it complies with their personal beliefs.

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  • citanon
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    Originally posted by zraver View Post
    Ah contrare' FP run by elites is how we get wars, austerity programs forced on to nations like Greece, bananas without any bend.... The EU was very good for Germany, gypsies and the British financial sector... not so good for many rank and file citizens. There is a reason the right is surging in Europe. From pensioners damn near starving in Greece, short skirts becoming a carte blanche for sexual assault by moslems in many urban centers, flat lined economic growth, high unemployment...
    Exactly (except the Muslim part). Also, did you guys notice Merkel and Holland already signaling their negotiation bottom lines?

    For Merkel it was the four freedoms, of which immigration will be the stickler.

    Hollande apparently wants to be bought off with some banking activity.

    Guess what's not off the table for these two: everything else.

    Predictably the Spanish called Scotland remaining in EU on its own a nonstarter.

    If Britain plays this right it might make out well indeed.

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  • citanon
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    Originally posted by tankie View Post
    Seems so , but the remain side told lies as they all do , but at the mo , the UK is still in the EU and there are moves to make sure we stay there ,MP,s and their high flying lawyers are busy trying to find loopholes (and they will ) to make sure democracy is kicked in the tits , again , watch this space .
    These answers seem perfectly reasonable to me. It's the BBC making mountains out of mole hills again.

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  • zraver
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    Originally posted by astralis View Post
    in any case this is a good demonstration of why foreign policy should not be run by referendum, especially when you're talking about a country which itself is an union of countries.

    this would be true regardless of the vote.
    Ah contrare' FP run by elites is how we get wars, austerity programs forced on to nations like Greece, bananas without any bend.... The EU was very good for Germany, gypsies and the British financial sector... not so good for many rank and file citizens. There is a reason the right is surging in Europe. From pensioners damn near starving in Greece, short skirts becoming a carte blanche for sexual assault by moslems in many urban centers, flat lined economic growth, high unemployment...

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  • troung
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    in any case this is a good demonstration of why foreign policy should not be run by referendum, especially when you're talking about a country which itself is an union of countries.
    The plebs voting against the wills of the oligarchy doesn't mean we shouldn't have a say. I would say it shows the opposite; the public deserves a greater say in what goes on than merely putting a few corrupt Senators/Reps and having nothing to do with appointing the charlatan self proclaimed experts who congregate in halls of power and the Federal workforce.

    Issue really seems to have brought out the worst kind of snobbishness from the self proclaimed experts...
    Last edited by troung; 01 Jul 16,, 01:16.

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  • astralis
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    in any case this is a good demonstration of why foreign policy should not be run by referendum, especially when you're talking about a country which itself is an union of countries.

    this would be true regardless of the vote.

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  • cataphract
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    Originally posted by tankie View Post
    As a whole , or just political people ?
    The two are indistinguishable. Your schizophrenic politics is a reflection of a schizophrenic society, especially since we're talking about a referendum here.

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  • Parihaka
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    Originally posted by tankie View Post
    Question.

    If the Tory government were to ignore the democratic mandate given to them by the people, if by stealth to cancel Brexit, forcing Britain to remain in the EU against the will of those who voted Leave, effectively becoming a dictatorship.
    Do you think that it would be acceptable for the British armed forces to go into Westminster, remove the government and place Britain under emergency military rule until Article 50 was triggered and a new general election were called?

    Could it come to that ?
    Your army is far too professional.

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