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  • This is rather interesting.

    “You scare people badly enough, you can get 'em to do anything They'll turn to whoever promises a solution”

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    • Originally posted by zara View Post
      No. Its a little word, deployed by little men.
      grooooooooaan .
      Last edited by tankie; 04 Nov 16,, 18:37.

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      • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
        This is rather interesting.

        Hahahaha that amused me , great find , says it all .Could have saved some paper .
        Last edited by tankie; 04 Nov 16,, 18:17.

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        • Just a bit of info on who is behind this action besides Millar ,,B,liar .

          Let's take a look at the identity of the judges behind yesterday's High Court Ruling:
          *HighCourt judge Philip Sales is an old crony of Blair's. He practiced at the law chambers 11KBW of which Blair was a founding member, He was appointed to Blair's legal team soon after the 1997 election,
          where,while becoming one of the highest paid publicly funded lawyersin the country, Sales defended the Government’s decision against holding a public inquiry into the Iraq War in the High Court in 2005.
          Even once Blair left office, Sale's favours to him were not over. Only this summer he OVERRULED the previous High Court decision to allow 130,000 disenfranchised Labour Party members to vote in the leadership election, a decision designed to help the Blairites. Sales as good as takes his instructions directly from Blair, the very man who is publicly seeking to sabotage Brexit.
          *The second judge Terence Etherton was appointed a High Court judge in 2001 while Blair was in office He was then promoted to Lord Justice of Appeal by Gordon Brown.
          *The third judge, Lord Chief Justice, Lord Thomas is a founding member of the European Law Institute which has the goal of "enhancing
          European legal integration". Surely a conflict of interests?!
          We need a full enquiry into how the remainers in general, and Tony Blair in particular have been able to stuff the benches with their supporters. This decision today represents not just the subversion of British democracy, but also the complete corruption of our legal system.

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          • lol

            Brexiters wanted their 'sovereignty' and got it with the High Court ruling, but seemingly are now against sovereignty after finding out what the word actually means. heh You couldn't make it up...

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            • Originally posted by tankie View Post
              Hahahaha that amused me , great find , says it all .Could have saved some paper .
              CGP Grey (the video creator) is by far my favorite YouTube channel. He's an American living in the UK and does quite a few really cool short educational videos on all manner of subjects.
              His stuff ranges from US and UK history to the EU to Lord of the Rings.

              Here is his take on the composition of the EU and its many ridiculous asterisks

              “You scare people badly enough, you can get 'em to do anything They'll turn to whoever promises a solution”

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              • Originally posted by zara View Post
                And in 1681 Charles used the 'Divine Right of Kings' to dissolve the English Parliament.
                3 times actually ,as you see dirty politics was alive n well even then .

                ... Twas , Charles 1st dissolved parliament three times between 1625 and 1629.

                The charly u mention was busy running away from 0lly cromwell .He dissolved parly in 1679 , not 1681 . ttfn.


                Charles II of England Biography
                King (1630–1685)
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                Synopsis

                Charles II was born on May 29, 1630, in St. James's Palace, London, England. After the execution of his father, Charles lived in exile until he was crowned King of England, Ireland and Scotland in 1661. His reign marking the Restoration period, Charles was known for his cavorting lifestyle and feuds with Parliament. He converted to Catholicism just before his death in London on February 6, 1685.

                Early Life

                When Charles II was born in St. James’s Palace in London, England, on May 29, 1630, signs of political turmoil were on the horizon in England. Two years prior, his father, King Charles I, had reluctantly agreed to the passage of the Petition of Right, which placed limits on the king’s authority.

                In 1642, civil war broke out between Parliament and Charles I over his claim of divine right to rule. By the end of the decade, Parliament, led by the Puritan Oliver Cromwell, was victorious. Young Charles II fled to France, and Charles I was executed in 1649.

                During the 11-year period of Interregnum, Charles was forbidden from being crowned king. Supporters in Scotland offered him the throne if he supported home rule. Inexperienced and untested in battle, Charles led a force into England but was quickly defeated at the Battle of Worcester, in 1651. Charles fled to the continent and spent nearly a decade in exile, forced to move from one country to another due to Cromwell’s reach.

                The Restoration

                The English republican government collapsed following Cromwell’s death in 1658, and Charles was reinstated to the throne in 1661. In his restoration agreement with Parliament, he was given a standing army and allowed to purge officials responsible for his father’s execution. In exchange, Charles II agreed to honor the Petition of Right and accept a limited income.

                By this point, Charles was cynical and self-indulgent, less skilled in governing than in surviving adversity. Like his father, he believed he possessed the divine right to rule, but unlike Charles I, he didn’t make it his priority. The Royal Court was notorious for its wine, women and song, and Charles became known as the “Merry Monarch” for his indulgence in hedonistic pleasures.

                Later Years

                In 1670, Charles signed a treaty with French King Louis XIV in which he agreed to convert to Catholicism and support France’s war against the Dutch in return for subsidies. The French assistance allowed him a little more breathing room in his dealings with Parliament.

                Charles’s wife, Queen Catherine, failed to produce a male heir, and by 1677 many feared his Catholic brother, James, Duke of York, would assume the throne. To appease the public, Charles arranged for his niece, Mary, to wed the Protestant William of Orange.

                A year later, the “Popish Plot” to assassinate the king emerged. Further investigation revealed no conspiracy existed, but anti-Catholic hysteria in Parliament led to false accusations against Charles’s chief advisor, Lord Danby. Tired of the conflict, Charles dissolved Parliament in 1679 and ruled alone for his remaining years.

                On his death bed, Charles finally went through with his promise to convert to Catholicism, angering many of his subjects. He passed away in London’s Whitehall Palace on February 6, 1685.
                Last edited by tankie; 04 Nov 16,, 19:04.

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                • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                  Here is his take on the composition of the EU and its many ridiculous asterisks
                  He is of course absolutely correct about the Byzantine nature of EU exclusions, inclusions, opt outs and so on. The same is true of it's legal processes etc... However seen against the alternative of a Muscovite imposed kleptocracy you can understand why it is more appealing to some.

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                  • Originally posted by snapper View Post
                    He is of course absolutely correct about the Byzantine nature of EU exclusions, inclusions, opt outs and so on. The same is true of it's legal processes etc... However seen against the alternative of a Muscovite imposed kleptocracy you can understand why it is more appealing to some.
                    I'll give the EU that. It's not a kleptocracy. I also think that the UK would be better off staying right where it's at in the EU.

                    Having said that, a large part of me is glad that an enormous middle finger was raised eastward on June 23rd.
                    “You scare people badly enough, you can get 'em to do anything They'll turn to whoever promises a solution”

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                    • Originally posted by snapper View Post
                      He is of course absolutely correct about the Byzantine nature of EU exclusions, inclusions, opt outs and so on.
                      From a continental European perspective I don't consider the EU's asterisks all that byzantine. Of course there could be less of them. But then the British would have had even more to complain.

                      Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                      Having said that, a large part of me is glad that an enormous middle finger was raised eastward on June 23rd.
                      It was really more southwards than eastwards. And didn't even have to cross the Channel.
                      Last edited by kato; 04 Nov 16,, 21:53.

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                      • So I am listening to KCBS news radio this morning and every day they have some expert in their field on for an interview. Could be anything. Today they were talking with an American woman involved with the migrant crisis in France. In her interview I heard her say, on talking with the migrants, only 20% wished to stay in France while the rest hoped for Britain. Oh, boy! I immediately thought of Tankie when I heard that. No skills to top it off. A country needs to control who enters, when they can enter, from where they can enter, for how long and under what circumstances otherwise chaos. Paris, welcome to chaos.

                        http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/wo...-refugees.html

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                        • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
                          So I am listening to KCBS news radio this morning and every day they have some expert in their field on for an interview. Could be anything. Today they were talking with an American woman involved with the migrant crisis in France. In her interview I heard her say, on talking with the migrants, only 20% wished to stay in France while the rest hoped for Britain. Oh, boy! I immediately thought of Tankie when I heard that. No skills to top it off. A country needs to control who enters, when they can enter, from where they can enter, for how long and under what circumstances otherwise chaos. Paris, welcome to chaos.

                          http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/wo...-refugees.html
                          We already have control of our borders though... Were not in Schengen, we can refuse anyone except EU citizens and we have checks for everyone coming into and out of the country.

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                          • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
                            So I am listening to KCBS news radio this morning and every day they have some expert in their field on for an interview. Could be anything. Today they were talking with an American woman involved with the migrant crisis in France. In her interview I heard her say, on talking with the migrants, only 20% wished to stay in France while the rest hoped for Britain. Oh, boy! I immediately thought of Tankie when I heard that. No skills to top it off. A country needs to control who enters, when they can enter, from where they can enter, for how long and under what circumstances otherwise chaos. Paris, welcome to chaos.

                            http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/wo...-refugees.html
                            pppffffffffffttttttttt wot u trying to portray here matey ?

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                            • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                              I'll give the EU that. It's not a kleptocracy. I also think that the UK would be better off staying right where it's at in the EU.

                              Having said that, a large part of me is glad that an enormous middle finger was raised eastward on June 23rd.
                              Ohhh but it is , or very very close to it .heh luv the middle finger .

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                              • Originally posted by zara View Post
                                We already have control of our borders though... Were not in Schengen, we can refuse anyone except EU citizens and we have checks for everyone coming into and out of the country.
                                Wow , im gonna sleep better knowing this snippet ,eu cits all with passports , genuine ones of course , all bought in Cyprus /Greece etcetera ,, border control is only in theory , it aint appnin innit like . One of the reasons given for leaving corruption capital was so we can control our borders , Back to the future . haaaaaa ya gonna love this one , well 17.5 million will., 15 wont , oh yes and a kraut .


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