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  • kato
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    During 2019 the German government has revisited 170,000 past asylum seeker applications, with another 480,000 to go until 2021 for the "refugee crisis". These revisits included 134,000 "regular revisits" (typically a few years after first decision, when depends on status) on whether the conditions for asylum were still present, as well as 9,000 cases of refugees having come before 2016 and 26,000 after 2016 for a variety of reason (both positive and negative, from suspected falsification in application to being convicted of crimes to having moved to the home country to impending naturalization as German citizens). Of the 170,000 revisits 68% concerned Syrians and 10% Iraqis. The vast majority of these revisits were for asylum decisions in 2014/15.

    Only 5,600 people lost their right to asylum in Germany in this process in 2019.


    During 2019 there were 111,000 new asylum requests (14.3% less than 2018), Top 5 by nationality:
    • 26,500 Syrians
    • 10,900 Iraqis
    • 10,300 Turkish
    • 7,800 Iranians
    • 7,100 Afghanis


    Additionally there were:
    • 31,500 asylum applications for children born in Germany to asylum holders* (first year they posted that number)
    • 23,400 asylum applications by people already holding asylum (required after several years, separate from above; this number is always about 25,000 reflecting long-term asylum holders).


    Overall 32.3% of asylum requests were handled by "other resolution" (deportation to Dublin entry country, usually). 23.3% received refugee status, 10.6% subsidiary protection, 1.2% formal asylum; 3.2% received a stay of deportation (e.g. due to war in home country). The remaining 29.4% were rejected.


    *- Children of foreign parents born in Germany do not receive German nationality unless one parent has been in Germany for 8 years and holds a permanent residence limit.
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  • tbm3fan
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    Originally posted by Wonderful Plans
    They should have refused the refugees at the bprder with the threat to open fire if they cross into Germany's territory. But theres a woman ruling the place now and she would sell her own kids to feeds those refugees and give them her kids bed because thats what women rulers do.
    Hmm, you don't mind if I talk that theory over with Thatcher and Meir do you?

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  • kato
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    Originally posted by kato View Post
    There's a case of a 20-year-old Iraqi refugee who, after raping and killing a girl (and hiding the corpse), fled before police got onto the case. He, along with his family fled to Turkey last saturday, driving from Istanbul across the country to get to the Iraqi border.
    As a followup, the guy was convicted today. Life in prison with "gravity of guilt" meaning no parole hearing in 15 years. He'll also have to pay 50,000 Euro to the family of the victim. The perpetrator had confessed the killing, but not the rape. He and one of his brother are also in a separate trial being tried for a rape of another girl.

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  • kato
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    Your loss.

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  • hboGYT
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    I have not read the article. I thought it was utter trash the moment I saw "skilled labour". No matter how much they spin it. Refugees on average can never be as beneficial as those coming through skilled migration programs.

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  • kato
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    Germany welcomed refugees. Now it's reaping the economic benefits

    German companies need more skilled workers. Refugees are helping to fill the gap.
    by Siobhan Dowling
    19 hours ago

    Sana Dawod, a Syrian refugee and software developer, landed a job with the German software giant SAP after finishing an internship there [Al Jazeera courtesy of Sana Dawod]
    Sana Dawod, a Syrian refugee and software developer, landed a job with the German software giant SAP after finishing an internship there [Al Jazeera courtesy of Sana Dawod]
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    Berlin, Germany – When Abdullah Hassoun arrived in Germany in November 2015, he barely spoke a word of German and his main priority was simply that he and his wife reach safety after fleeing the war in Syria.

    Four years later, the 27-year-old is working as a land surveyor in Berlin for a small engineering firm, doing the job he spent years training for at the University of Aleppo while the war raged around him.

    "It was so hard to go to university and continue studying," Hassoun told Al Jazeera. "And so, when I started looking for a job, I always tried to get a job in my field. I didn't want to throw those five years away."

    Hassoun was among the almost 1.2 million people who applied for asylum in Germany during the height of the migrant crisis in 2015 and 2016.

    The initial priorities for the German government were registering and housing the huge influx of arrivals. But once settled, many migrants started to take integration and language courses with an eye towards entering the labour force.

    Increasingly, that path is paying off.

    A recent study by the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees found that almost 35 percent of refugees who had arrived in Germany in 2015 had a job by October 2018, compared with 20 percent the previous year.

    Researchers also found that many refugees managed to find work despite language difficulties and a lack of formal vocational qualifications that are normally vital to securing employment in Germany.

    "What surprised us is that about a bit more than 50 percent of the refugees are working in skilled jobs, which usually require vocational training certificates or higher certificates, although only 20 percent of the refugee population have such types of certificates," Herbert Bruecker of the Institute for Employment Research (IAB), which helped produce the study, told Al Jazeera.

    A combination of "favourable labour market conditions", language progammes and job placement initiatives are helping refugees land jobs, Bruecker explained. That includes refugees who don't have formal vocational training but previously acquired specialist skills in their home countries.

    The influx of human capital is happening a crucial time for the economy in Germany, where the population is aging and unemployment is at its lowest level since the 1990 reunification of East and West Germany.

    A tight labour market signals a skills shortage, which could pose a threat to future economic growth.

    The dearth of qualified workers is already being felt by German businesses. A survey of more than 23,000 companies by the German Chambers of Commerce and Industry (DIHK) found that nearly half of companies are unable to fill vacancies in the longer term because they cannot find suitable employees.
    Abdullah Hassoun
    Abdullah Hassoun is a Syrian refugee who studied for five years at the University of Aleppo before fleeing to Germany. He now works as a land surveyor in Berlin. [Courtesy Jobs4Refugees/Al Jazeera]


    Deportation versus the need for skilled labour

    Refugees in Germany are caught in the crosscurrents of a package of immigration bills designed to both toughen asylum rules and speed up deportations, while simultaneously lifting labour market restrictions for asylum seekers and making it easier for skilled migrants who are not from European Union countries to come to Germany.

    Included in the package of bills approved by Germany's federal parliament or Bundestag earlier this month is a measure that would allow asylum seekers who arrived before August 2018 to be able to stay for the time being if they have a steady job and speak German.

    The government's current approach to work and refugees has come under fire. For example, refugees who are employed are often the most vulnerable to deportation because they haven't gone underground and the state knows where to find them. Rejected asylum-seekers can also wait for up to 12 months before being allowed to enroll in vocational training or start work.

    But groups such as the DIHK have joined forces with the federal economics ministry to establish a network of more than 2000 companies, including many small and medium enterprises, to help refugees integrate into the labour force.

    "There is a great willingness on the part of the companies to invest time and money, to accept bureaucratic hurdles and to overcome cultural differences - both because the labour market makes it necessary and because they see it as an important social contribution," Marlene Thiele, who heads the DIHK project, told Al Jazeera.

    Refugees are embracing Germany's apprenticeship system, where they are sponsored by a company and can work and also attend a vocational educational institute, says Thiele.

    "Dual training has become the most important form of employment among our members, with almost half of the companies currently training people with a refugee background," she said.

    There is a great willingness on the part of the companies to invest time and money, to accept bureaucratic hurdles and to overcome cultural differences - both because the labour market makes it necessary and because they see it as an important social contribution.

    Marlene Thiele, German Chambers of Commerce and Industry

    Helping refugees help the economy

    Land surveyor Hassoun found an internship with his firm by responding to a Facebook post by the non-profit group Jobs4Refugees. The organization has placed more than 250 refugees in jobs or apprenticeships since its inception in 2015, and has helped another 1,500 with training, workshops and consultation.

    Though he already had his degree, Hassoun said his internship set him up for success by exposing him to state-of-the-art equipment and by helping him become more proficient in the technical language of his job.

    Beyond non-profits, many large private firms have implemented their own programmes to help refugees help the German economy.

    More than 150 refugees completed an internship programme at software giant SAP last year, and 57 of them secured jobs at the company, said Björn Emde, vice president for global corporate affairs at SAP.

    He told Al Jazeera that SAP now processes all applications from refugees through its general process.

    "We are confident that we can deal well with the applications of any kind and background," said Emde. "From our point of view, the project was a great success and a great learning opportunity for all of us."

    Sana Dawod is a 32-year old software developer from Damascus who landed a job with SAP through its refugee internship programme.

    When she arrived in Ludwigshafen in early 2015 with her father and siblings, she had four years of professional IT work experience as well as proficiency in English. Though she was studying German, SAP allowed her to use English during her internship and assigned her a mentor who encouraged her to apply for a job.

    "That was the most encouraging and supportive thing," Dawod told Al Jazeera. "Getting this job in SAP has helped me to feel more secure and also it helped me to get permanent residency."

    Dawod also met her husband - a fellow Syrian - at SAP. The couple is now expecting a baby.

    But for all the progress that's been made, there's more to be done.

    Dawod is one of the relatively few female refugees who arrived in 2015 and have since secured steady work.

    But AIB's Bruecker says many of the women who arrived in Germany as refugees are likely to enter the workforce eventually.

    "More than 70 percent of the females have children, and 60 percent of those children are under three," he explained, adding that when these women do find work, it will further tip the balance towards a net benefit to the country.

    We want to show that we are not only here for the money, but that we want also to live, work, be productive, develop ourselves further. I am very grateful.

    Abdullah Hassoun, Syrian refugee now working as a land surveyor in Berlin

    Currently, Germany is still spending more on refugees than it takes in from them in the form of taxes and social contributions. But the German Institute for Economic Research forecasts that the balance should turn positive by 2021 onward.

    "My expectation is that if we achieve an employment rate of 60 percent or 55 percent, then it will shift," said Bruecker, adding that this is likely to take another three years.

    Hassoun certainly wants to do his part and help build a stronger Germany, and along with it, a future for his daughter, who was born in Berlin during the summer of 2016.

    "We must not forget that Germany has given us a great chance to go on with our lives and to start a better life here," he said. "We want to show that we are not only here for the money, but that we want also to live, work, be productive, develop ourselves further. I am very grateful."
    https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/g...194147334.html

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    Hi there, many people who escaped Syria as refugees have already found new homes in Germany. I think that a huge number of migrants are now looking for new jobs in Germany.

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  • kato
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    Originally posted by astralis View Post
    different milieu. early 90s was the fall of the USSR and the US as the triumphal hyper-power.
    Not from our perspective. The early 90s were the collapse of the established system with millions suddenly displaced (... all moving into Germany) and within Germany economic collapse with massive transfer payments amounting to trillions, while the political elite proved to be even less trustworthy than ever before. It was sorta a bit like the postwar period, although more in a post-WW1 sense with the rightwingers gaining traction as well.

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  • astralis
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    It's not like that cancer was ever not there. It's just a bit more visible at the moment. The early 90s were a whole lot worse in this regard too compared to now, and yes, including political representation of the cancer.
    different milieu. early 90s was the fall of the USSR and the US as the triumphal hyper-power.

    now the US is in relative global retreat, asking Europe to shoulder more of the regional burden-- while China and Russia seek to compete aggressively with the US and undercut US influence. for parts of Europe to undergo democratic regression now represents a serious ideological challenge to the West vs a mere regional issue from earlier. Orban et al has said as much.

    and it can get much worse. if En Marche! stumbles or Merkel falls or another serious recession hits Europe, it will get ugly pretty fast.

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  • kato
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    It's not like that cancer was ever not there. It's just a bit more visible at the moment. The early 90s were a whole lot worse in this regard too compared to now, and yes, including political representation of the cancer.

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  • astralis
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    ugh, it's seriously concerning to me how much the blood-and-soil cancer has spread throughout Europe even during a time of relatively decent economic growth. god help you guys during the next recession.

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  • kato
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    The head of federal domestic intelligence, Hans-Georg Maaßen, got into a bit of a bind over the last few weeks by claiming that a video from Chemnitz (showing neonazis attacking foreigners) was "fake".

    The SPD called for his dismissal over that and placed the government coalition into question - and ... well: Maaßen is being moved to a position as a state secretary (deputy minister) now.

    Fox News plays it as "top spy ousted after clash with Merkel over migrants", which... err, yes. Let's see, it's not an espionage agency, he wasn't ousted, it wasn't a clash with Merkel, and it wasn't over migrants. I recommend this WSJ article for something that actually says what happened.

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  • kato
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    It's gotten ridiculous enough that the New York Times had its own live newsticker from Chemnitz today:
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...he-latest.html

    Overall it's pretty sedate for a German political rally. Police is basically shuffling around cavalry, watercannons and APCs; dogs and batons used here and there, mostly on neonazis. Some scuffles between neonazis and left-wingers with a few dozen injured, nothing major. Some police and press individually physically attacked by neonazis with a couple injured.
    Last edited by kato; 01 Sep 18,, 20:20.

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  • kato
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    Federal Attorney is now investigating the rapid mobilization processes of neonazis for Chemnitz.

    The Federal Attorney is responsible for terrorism cases. In his only public interview since taking the office last October - in February - he made cracking down on right-wing terrorism a priority and announced that he'd pull any cases involving neonazis in which there were pogrom-like attacks - similar to what happened in the 90s in East Germany - or any cases of attacks by neonazi groups with casulaties towards his agency.

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  • kato
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    Saxon state police chief claims that for today's right-wing and left-wing rallies "all available police units in Germany" will be moved into Chemnitz. A 2nd Bundesliga soccer game - HSV Hamburg vs Dynamo Dresden - to be held today in Saxony has been cancelled due to a shortage of riot police manpower available.

    AfD head Gauland is defending the neonazis in Chemnitz btw. In a survey, 57% of the population want the AfD placed under domestic intelligence surveillance for that. Of course the ultraconservative federal government is walling against that.
    Edit, PS: Same survey says 76% of the population see democracy endangered by neonazis right now.
    Last edited by kato; 01 Sep 18,, 10:46.

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