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  • Between 1.5 and 2 milion.

    Edit; From UNHCR
    http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e48e0fa7f.html
    Last edited by Doktor; 15 Sep 15,, 22:18.
    No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

    To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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    • Originally posted by tankie View Post
      Merkel seems to be getting the message ???

      https://youtu.be/-Tp-AspPvmg

      Total chaos and meltdown of rules .Turn back and fight for your country / your independence / your lives / your futures / because Europe is not wanting you at all no matter how much the media try to spin it out. This has been an abject failure.

      HOME»NEWS»WORLD NEWS»EUROPE»GERMANY
      Refugee crisis: Emergency EU migrant talks as border controls return to Europe
      Germany and Austria temporarily reintroduce border controls as tens of thousands of migrants pour in ahead of talks on Monday




      By Justin Huggler, Berlin7:38AM BST 14 Sep 2015
      European ministers will hold emergency talks on Monday on plans to distribute migrants around the continent, after Germany reintroduced border controls admitting it could no longer cope with the influx.
      As city after city across Germany announced it had no more room for the tens of thousands of refugees pouring into the country, and the mayor of Munich warned that new arrivals would soon be sleeping in the streets, chancellor Angela Merkel’s government announced it was reimposing controls on its border with Austria.
      Austrian police look at refugees arriving from Hungary at a reception center in Nickelsdorf, Austria
      Austrian police look at refugees arriving from Hungary at a reception center in Nickelsdorf, Austria Photo: EPA
      All train services between the two countries were stopped at 5pm local time (4pm BST), and hundreds of police were on their way to secure the border.
      “The aim of this measure is to limit the current flow to Germany and restore an orderly process,” Thomas de Maiziere, the German interior minister, said in a terse statement in Berlin.
      Within hours, the Czech Republic announced that it was imposing similar measures on its own border with Austria.
      It came as the UN refugee agency warned that the EU must avoid fragmenting into a patchwork of countries with different border rules that would plunge thousands of refugees into "legal limbo".
      Decisions by a meeting of EU ministers of the interior on Monday would be "even more critical", UNHCR said.
      The announcement in Berlin signalled a dramatic shift in policy by Mrs Merkel’s government. Just a week ago, there were emotional scenes in Munich as hundreds of local people turned out to cheer arriving refuges, after Germany announced it would let them in to avert a humanitarian crisis.
      Refugees arrive from Hungary at a reception center in Nickelsdorf, Austria
      Refugees arrive from Hungary at a reception center in Nickelsdorf, Austria Photo: EPA
      But on Sunday, Mr de Maiziere said the country could not be expected to cope with the burden alone.
      “In recent weeks Germany has shown great willingness to help, from both professionals and volunteers. But this willingness should not be overstretched,” he said.
      “This measure is therefore also a signal to all of Europe: Germany is committed to its humanitarian responsibilities, but the burden of such a large number of refugees must be shared fairly around Europe.”
      The European Commission said Germany appeared to be legally justified in reimposing the border controls, which are allowed as a temporary emergency measure under the Schengen agreement.

      “The German decision of today underlines the urgency to agree on the measures proposed by the European Commission in order to manage the refugee crisis,” it said in a statement.
      EU ministers will discuss a proposal by Jean-Claude Juncker, the Commission president, to redistribute 160,000 refugees among member states.
      Britain will not have to take any refugees under the scheme, as it has an opt-out.
      The refugee crisis has exposed huge cracks in the EU's current Dublin system, under which migrants must seek asylum in the country in which they first arrive.
      EU governments have descended into open sparring over responsibility for the new arrivals, with neighbours accusing each other of failing to register migrants and instead shunting them on to the next destination. Others complain of unfairly large burdens, or argue that they cannot be expected to intercept migrants bent on reaching the country of their choice.
      But Mr de Maiziere stressed that until a new system was in place, member states would have to follow the existing rules.
      “Under current European law Germany is not responsible for the vast majority of asylum seekers,” he said.
      German Chancellor Angela Merkel arrives at the State Office for Migration and Refugees branch after welcoming refugees, in Berlin, Germany
      German Chancellor Angela Merkel arrives at the State Office for Migration and Refugees branch after welcoming refugees, in Berlin, Germany Photo: EPA
      “The competent member state has a responsibility not only to register asylum-seekers, but to carry out the asylum procedure.”
      Refugees cannot pick and choose which country to settle in, he said.
      “Asylum-seekers have to accept that they cannot choose which EU member state gives them protection. This will also apply when it comes to a European distribution.”
      Earlier on Sunday, Mr de Maiziere said: “It can't be our duty to pay benefits laid out in German law to refugees who have been allocated to one EU country and then come to Germany anyway.
      Refugees arrive at the railway station in Munich, southern Germany
      Refugees arrive at the railway station in Munich, southern Germany Photo: PHILIPP GUELLAND/AFP/Getty
      Sigmar Gabriel, Germany's vice-chancellor, blamed "Europe's inaction" in the refugee crisis for having stretched his country's capacity to host asylum-seekers to its limit.
      "Europe's inaction in the refugee crisis had driven German in the meanwhile to the limit of its capacity," Mr Gabriel told the Tagesspiegel newspaper.
      The problem is "not the number of refugees but the rapidity at which they arrived", which complicated the work of regional states and German cities, he told the Berlin daily.
      Mr Gabriel, who is also economy minister, urged Europe to examine how it can "quickly help in an efficient way the countries of origins of these refugees".
      He suggested "immediate aid of €1.5 billion (Ł1.1 billion)" put forward by Germany and Europe for the biggest refugee camps, such as those in Lebanon and Jordan, for schools, food and lodgings.
      Currently, most refugees want to go to Germany or Sweden, where they get a warmer welcome and more generous benefits.
      From left: friends Ibrahim, Hamayoun and Nomi who are refugees from Afghanistan, arrive at the central station in Munich, Germany
      From left: friends Ibrahim, Hamayoun and Nomi who are refugees from Afghanistan, arrive at the central station in Munich, Germany Photo: Corbis
      The apparent U-turn by Mrs Merkel’s goverment came after authorities in Munich, the entry point for most migrants in Germany, appealed for help to cope with the influx.
      “We are simply full here in Munich,” Dieter Reiter, the mayor told ZDF television after 12,000 migrants arrived in the southern German city on Saturday alone – the most yet in a single day.
      “From tonight, I can no longer ensure that refugees do not have to sleep at the station, or elsehere in the city under the open sky.”
      Some 80 refugees were forced to sleep rough in the city station on Saturday, and authorities were stockpiling sleeping bags and camping mats.
      A woman holds her child, after getting out of a train upon arriving at the railway station in Berlin Schoenefeld
      A woman holds her child, after getting out of a train upon arriving at the railway station in Berlin Schoenefeld Photo: Getty Images
      The city is preparing to open an Olympic arena as a temporary shelter for refugees, and the German army will provide 1,000 places at a barracks in northern Bavaria.
      There was no sign of a let up in the numbers heading north towards Germany. Austrian authorities said 6,700 arrived across the border with Hungary on Saturday, and they were expecting 6,000 to 8,000 more on Sunday.
      Further south along the route, 4,330 refugees crossed into Hungary on Saturday, the most the country has seen in a single day.
      Hungary's hardline prime minister Viktor Orban welcomed Berlin's decision as a "necessary" move to protect European values in the face of a record migrant influx.
      Mr Orban said he was also convinced that "this is only the first step".
      "We must also protect Europe's borders in Greece as soon as possible - with the cohesion of Europe, all of its member states and organisations," he added.
      Britain announced it had appointed a minister to deal specifically with the 20,000 Syrian refugees that the country has agreed to resettle from camps bordering the war-torn country.
      "The queen has been pleased to approve the appointment of Richard Harrington MP as a Parliamentary Under Secretary of State jointly at the Home Office, the Department for Communities and Local Government, and the Department for International Development," said a statement from the Downing Street office of David Cameron on Monday.
      On Tuesday, a controversial new law is to come into effect in Hungary, under which refugees could be jailed for trying to cross its new 120-mile fence along its border with Serbia. Some are thought to be trying to make it through before the deadline.
      Emergency is declared and there is allowance to shoot is what I heard. People are moving to Croatia now. Much longer border towards Hungary.
      No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

      To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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      • Originally posted by Doktor View Post
        Between 1.5 and 2 milion.

        Edit; From UNHCR
        http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e48e0fa7f.html
        Kudos for Turkey stepping up to the plate.
        "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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        • Lebanon is in worst situation. Some 20-25% of the population are refugees. Jordan is on par as well. Egypt also holds good chunk, but way of the mark of those three.
          No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

          To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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          • Originally posted by Doktor View Post
            People are moving to Croatia now. Much longer border towards Hungary.
            They've mostly been avoiding Croatia because:
            a) one more border to cross than via Hungary.
            b) mines on the border.

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            • Originally posted by Doktor View Post
              Between 1.5 and 2 milion.
              Edit; From UNHCR
              http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e48e0fa7f.html
              The reason why there is usually only an estimate for Turkey is because UNHCR is horribly underfunded (note government contribution on the UNHCR page). Any person that wants a spot in a UNHCR camp in Turkey - and get formally recognized as a refugee both by Turkey and by the UNHCR - has to get an interview in Ankara. The waiting list is for an appointment for that is currently six years. No joke.

              Everyone who hasn't had that appointment is considered an illegal immigrant in Turkey, not a refugee, and does not get any formal aid, housing, food or anything else beyond - if they can get it - UN food packages and such. That's everybody except for those 300,000 (220,000 Syrians and 80,000 Iraqis) mentioned in that link as of September 2014. UNHCR's budget for Turkey is around 200 Dollar for each of the 1.7 million "planned".

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              • Explains some of the feelings in Germany .

                https://youtu.be/KVWAIKoatWM

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                • I don't know the origins of this pic , if true, it certainly rams home a point . ?



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                  • Kurdish women are notorious as fighters in the Kurd militias.There are whole companies of women.

                    But they aren't Arab ,they're Indo European.And the Snackbars are remarcable by absence.The Kurds also have Yazidi and Christian units.
                    Basically the only decent folks in the game.
                    Those who know don't speak
                    He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

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                    • Originally posted by Mihais View Post
                      Kurdish women are notorious as fighters in the Kurd militias.There are whole companies of women.

                      But they aren't Arab ,they're Indo European.And the Snackbars are remarcable by absence.The Kurds also have Yazidi and Christian units.
                      Basically the only decent folks in the game.
                      Thanks for the heads up mate .

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                      • Look @ Kobane. Not only they stay, but they attract foreigners to join them.
                        No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                        To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                        • The refugee religion of peace is out recruiting in Londonistan , biting the hands that feed them and welcomed then ,,heres the way they repay the kindness . And it will break out all over the EU .

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                          • Breaking news




                            Cops shoot dead Islamic extremist in Berlin after he stabs policewoman in the street
                            1 COMMENT 17:31, 17 SEPTEMBER 2015 UPDATED 18:45, 17 SEPTEMBER 2015
                            BY SAM ADAMS

                            The Iraqi man - believed to be a member of a terrorist organisation - seriously injured a female officer before another officer shot and killed him

                            Police in Germany have shot dead an Islamic extremist in Berlin, according to reports.

                            Cops said on Thursday that they had shot dead a man known to be a member of a "terrorist" organisation after he attacked a policewoman in western Berlin with a knife.

                            "He had been convicted of being a member of a terrorist association and of being involved in a plot to murder the Iraqi prime minister," Berlin police said on Twitter.

                            The unnamed man is believed to be an Iraqi immigrant and a member of a terrorist organisation.

                            The man seriously injured a female officer before another officer shot and killed him, according to reports.

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                            • Originally posted by tankie View Post
                              The refugee religion of peace is out recruiting in Londonistan , biting the hands that feed them and welcomed then ,,heres the way they repay the kindness . And it will break out all over the EU .
                              You're just being an islamaphobe. Bush is gone. Muslims like us now. Al Queda is on the run. Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive!

                              OBAMA 2012!!!!!
                              "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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                              • Originally posted by gunnut View Post
                                You're just being an islamophobe. Bush is gone. Muslims like us now. Al Queda is on the run. Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive!

                                OBAMA 2012!!!!!
                                Awww crap , im not am I , lol

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