Originally posted by Tarek Morgen
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Neonazi Terrorism in Germany
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I think he's referring to the dude who shot the boxer and ended her career and walked away with a 6 year prison sentenceMeddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
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Originally posted by Bigfella View PostI'm not aware that this is being focusses on 'to the exclusion' of other crimes - Tarek & Kato might know.
Originally posted by USSWisconsin View PostWhat kind of penalty would these criminals face if caught?
I am curious if they would be incarerated longer for a crime like this, as compared to the short German sentances discussed in other threads.
German courts aren't hesitant to give maximum sentences to murderers acting out in hate crimes btw, both for adults (life) and youths (10 years).
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Originally posted by kato View PostIt's taken as a focus in so far as it provides the necessary impact to start a rethinking on how to handle right-wing extremists.Those who know don't speak
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36
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Originally posted by kato View PostIt's taken as a focus in so far as it provides the necessary impact to start a rethinking on how to handle right-wing extremists.sigpic
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Originally posted by Bigfella View PostI have also heard it mentioned that there has been a much heavier emphasis on left wing & Islamic groups. Have investigations of right wing groups been underresourced?
Originally posted by Bigfella View PostHas there been an assumption, perhaps even self-deception, that right wing terror was less of an issue?
Originally posted by Bigfella View PostWhat has the strategy been thus far?
In most cases domestic intelligence has its fingers and feelers deep in such groups, with the theoretical target of finding ring leaders and so on. Often flanked by state-sponsored groups going in to isolate and separate "harmless" members of right-wing groups.
The fingers are in deep enough that for example a couple years ago the Supreme Court denied outlawing a nazi party because 15% of the leaders of the party at state and federal level were controlled by domestic intelligence. There's currently the assumption that at least two different state domestic intelligence agencies had informants close to the terrorist cell, trying to find where the main group was hiding. There's also been the accusation that one domestic intelligence agent or informer was suspiciously close at hand at at least six of the assassinations.
Originally posted by Bigfella View PostAre there sympatheric individuals or even groups in governmetn or even the security apparatus who have been helping out?
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Originally posted by Mihais View PostIn fewer words,more repression.In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.
Leibniz
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Originally posted by Mihais View PostIn fewer words,more repression.
So yeah, more repression.
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IMO, Far too many Laws that have ballooned the "gray" area far beyond reason.
A major flaw of these generations and ours is that they no longer see in black and white (right and wrong), all they see is a rather large expanding "gray area" that is riddled with bullshit excuses, plea deals, cop outs, circumstances and technicalities. We wonder why society is the way it is, thats because we have allowed it. Prisons are overloaded with "politcal pets" that instead of giving them the punishment they really deserve, they get to become pets of the state and bleed the taxpayers unendlessly. Many deserve a box and a bullet, not cable TV etc etc etc.Last edited by Dreadnought; 20 Nov 11,, 21:25.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostIMO, Far too many Laws that have ballooned the "gray" area far beyond reason.
A major flaw of these generations and ours is that they no longer see in black and white (right and wrong), all they see is a rather large expanding "gray area" that is riddled with bullshit excuses, plea deals, cop outs, circumstances and technicalities. We wonder why society is the way it is, thats because we have allowed it. Prisons are overloaded with "politcal pets" that instead of giving them the punishment they really deserve, they get to become pets of the state and bleed the taxpayers unendlessly. Many deserve a box and a bullet, not cable TV etc etc etc.sigpic
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Originally posted by Tarek Morgen View Postwhich ones? The Woman arrested? The two who killed themselves?
There is no doubt this represents a new dimension of far-right violence which is why federal prosecutors are investigating accusations of formation of a terrorist organisation," Friedrich said.sigpic"If your plan is for one year, plant rice. If your plan is for ten years, plant trees.
If your plan is for one hundred years, educate children."
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Police added two more supporters to the suspect list on Friday, domestic intelligence in Thuringia currently estimates about 20 members/supporters for the cell.
The killing of the police officer is currently investigated as another possible targeted investigation; the officer was from Thuringia herself, and had a (non-amiable) personal connection to the woman arrested.
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Originally posted by Bigfella View PostThey're also full of people there for political reasons - like politicians wanting to look 'tough' on drugs. Not a one way street. Want to save lives & probably some money? Legalize marijuana, tax it like alcohol & fill the space in the prisons with anyone caught twice exceeding the speed limit by more than 15kmph. Six months should do nicely. Watch the road toll & costs associated wiht crashes plummet. There are plenty of 'political pets' when it comes to administering justice DN, its just that we rarely notice when we ourselves are among them.Last edited by Dreadnought; 21 Nov 11,, 20:20.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Damn,not even Nazis aren't sacred anymore.As a manifestation of the Devil himself on Earth,of course.
Why do we have to return always to welfare recipients and junkies?Just bring homos and the opinion of reps and dems on taxes, to have the full spectrum.;)Those who know don't speak
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36
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Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostIMO, I dont think legalizing drugs is the answer. The problem is you have too many people that commit the heinous crimes. Murder, shootings that leave the inncocent maimed/crippled for life, kidnapping/rape etc. These are the ones that a standard should be set for. Start with Manson and take them on a case by case basis.Cold blooded murderers should be first to get the bullet. If you want to lower the wasted cash there are several instances that could be used as a starter. Drug testing for welfare would be a start. Those that get put into prison should pay the full cost of keeping them there not the taxpayer. And on the other hand, politicians need to create jobs to support these people. There are plenty of people though that ride the state/governments paycheck for far too long. Bending the rules has become an artform these days. End it. One viscious circle.sigpic
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