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    Amity Shlaes, senior fellow in economic history at the Council on Foreign Relations



    Obama’s Next Trillion Spending Might Be Worth It: Amity Shlaes
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    Commentary by Amity Shlaes

    Dec. 29 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama is under fire for saying he wants to boost investment in infrastructure in the next decade. The critics say this is flawed stimulus because infrastructure projects take too long to get started and don’t boost the economy now.

    Obama’s best move would be to stop spending. But given that he won’t, and that he has three more years in office, the right kind of infrastructure splurge might not be such a bad idea -- especially if you don’t call it a stimulus.

    That at least is what the record of the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s suggests, especially when it came to the classic American infrastructure project, highway construction.

    Back in the 1930s, presidents started with the proposition that the primary aim of all spending should be to put people to work. Road construction was viewed as one of the tools to that end. In a single year, between June 1933 and April 1934, relief workers repaired 500,000 miles of highways.

    As historian Mark Rose has noted, in the mid-1930s, almost $3 billion, then a good share of an annual federal budget, was poured into highway projects by relief officials and the Bureau of Public Roads.

    But observers, including President Franklin Roosevelt himself, began to notice flaws with this plan. For one thing, as today, road projects were not shovel-ready -- their lengthy planning coincided with the direst moments of recession. By the late 1930s, Roosevelt concluded that highway programs generally “do not provide as much work as other methods of taking care of the unemployed.”

    Cutting Spending

    In early 1938 the president suggested that federal assistance to roads ought to revert to pre-Depression levels. That April, he reluctantly allowed that appropriating an extra $100 million for roads was all right, but “only for projects which can be definitely started this calendar year.”

    What was worse, the Hoover and Roosevelt road outlays didn’t make enough sense as infrastructure. A highway expert, Wilfred Owen, pointed out that New Deal construction had “denied congested metropolitan areas” and were instead “lavished upon local rural roads.”

    As the country emerged from World War II, it was clear the unprecedented 1930s spending hadn’t prepared the U.S. for exploding postwar road use. General Dwight Eisenhower, for his part, was put off by the heavy political element of New Deal outlays.

    Washington doesn’t shift gears easily. As the 1950s began, lawmakers therefore also presented construction as a tool to create jobs or manage the business cycle. The memory of the Depression was fresh. Recessions were still hitting with regularity -- there were four between the end of World War II and 1959.

    Man of Action

    But Eisenhower, now president, was a man of action. He recalled the embarrassing number of days -- 62 -- it had taken a cross-country convoy to get from Washington to San Francisco in 1919. In his view, the one good thing that Adolf Hitler had done was to build the Autobahn. Where was the American Autobahn? In the end the bill that Eisenhower was able to push through Congress was straightforward.

    Under the Highway Act of 1956, the federal government spent billions to build new roads and piece together older ones and construct a national highway system. There were secondary goals, such as national defense and job creation, among them. But the most obvious goal, serving a country that wanted to move at 65 miles an hour, came first.

    Less Than Optimal

    The outcome of the interstate highway program wasn’t optimal. It favored truckers over cities. The roads cut off some downtowns from the commerce that had heretofore sustained them. Minorities pointed out that their communities often bore the brunt of construction. According to Rose, some black political and business leaders spoke of white men’s roads going through black men’s bedrooms.

    As for budgeting, the interstate so far outran its original cost estimates that Senator William Proxmire awarded it his so- called golden fleece prize for federal profligacy.

    But on balance, the highway achievement lasted in a way that stimulus or make-work projects did not. In the 1960s, one quarter of all productivity gains came from highway improvements. The interstate did its part to make the U.S. an economic superpower. By concentrating on one coherent infrastructure project, we helped to assure growth.

    There were other benefits. As early as 1959, the New York Times was publishing headlines that said things like “Pay Roads Save Time and Tempers as They Lead Tourists to Far Places.”

    Today the country can ill afford another trillion in stimulus. But if such an outlay is inevitable, then let that trillion go to a national Big Dig. As Eisenhower demonstrated, a growth project like a road can be superior to a new social program. A road, or a railway, or a plan to collect water in space, after all, reflects more hope. Obama will achieve the happiest outcome if he simply makes like Ike and plows forward.

    (Amity Shlaes, senior fellow in economic history at the Council on Foreign Relations, is a Bloomberg News columnist. The opinions expressed are her own.)

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    To contact the writer of this column: Amity Shlaes at [email protected]
    Last Updated: December 28, 2009 21:00 EST
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    Obama’s Next Trillion Spending Might Be Worth It
    Only if he cuts federal spending by $1 trillion over the next 10 years.
    "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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    • #3
      The fact of the matter is taxes are going up eventually GN. No one is going to make the draconian cuts to Medicare, the Military or SS that would prevent it.
      Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost.”
      ~Ronald Reagan

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      • #4
        Yep chances are you will see the capital gains tax skyrocket. Estimates claim that it could reach 40% from its present 18%. If so you will see the largest dump of privately helds stocks in US history. No one in their rite mind will invest in stocks when this happens.

        I wonder if people have yet figured out that Obama's stimulis package didnt help anyone but those the Democrats wish to control and those they already do. The ones the package was supposed to help didnt get much help at all and put us in a trillion debt. Cant wait for the next debacle.
        Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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        • #5
          dread,

          I wonder if people have yet figured out that Obama's stimulis package didnt help anyone but those the Democrats wish to control and those they already do.
          if that was the case, would all the republican governors mind whom accepted stimulus funds on behalf of their state refund the monies to the government in the name of deficit cutting?
          There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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          • #6
            Originally posted by astralis View Post
            if that was the case, would all the republican governors mind whom accepted stimulus funds on behalf of their state refund the monies to the government in the name of deficit cutting?
            A red herring Astralis. The question is one of economic effect, not political, and it's further more relevant to the extent of waste, and the mere existence of benefit. Finally, one must also cut through the fog of short term relief vs. longer term economic benefit.

            $500 million that's apparently not doing good:

            The unintended ripples from the biomass subsidy program
            By Juliet Eilperin
            Washington Post Staff Writer
            Sunday, January 10, 2010; A03

            It sounded like a good idea: Provide a little government money to convert wood shavings and plant waste into renewable energy.

            But as laudable as that goal sounds, it could end up causing more economic damage than good -- driving up the price of raw timber, undermining an industry that has long used sawdust and wood shavings to make affordable cabinetry, and highlighting the many challenges involved in decreasing the nation's dependence on oil by using organic materials to create biofuels.

            In a matter of months, the Biomass Crop Assistance Program -- a small provision tucked into the 2008 farm bill -- has mushroomed into a half-a-billion dollar subsidy that is funneling taxpayer dollars to sawmills and lumber wholesalers, encouraging them to sell their waste to be converted into high-tech biofuels. In doing so, it is shutting off the supply of cheap timber byproducts to the nation's composite wood manufacturers, who make panels for home entertainment centers and kitchen cabinets.

            While it remains unclear whether Congress or the Obama administration will push to revamp the program, even some businesses that should benefit from the subsidy are beginning to question its value.

            "It's not right. It's not serving any purpose," said Bob Jordan, president of Jordan Lumber & Supply in North Carolina, even while noting that he might be able to get twice as much money for his mill's sawdust and shavings under the program.

            "The best thing they could do is forget about it. All it's doing is driving the price of wood up."

            A range of renewable materials can be converted into energy sources: Wood pellets, rice hulls and fiber from sugar cane can produce electricity; algae and corn cobs can be converted into liquid fuel. The federal government is actively working to support the growth of as many of these biomass crops as possible, in part to meet requirements under the 2007 energy bill: The country must produce 5.5 billion gallons of advanced biofuels annually in five years, and 21 billion gallons by 2022. Right now, almost no U.S. land is devoted to raising biomass crops; according to congressional estimates, by 2022 the country will need between 22.2 and 55.5 million acres for this purpose.

            A struggling industry
            The new subsidy provided a critical boost to an industry that took off in the late 1970s after the federal government mandated that utilities obtain part of their supply from independent power producers. Many of these contracts have now expired, leaving the industry struggling to compete in light of low natural gas prices and higher wood costs.

            The future of the biomass program -- which will eventually include a subsidy to get farmers to grow crops such as switchgrass and an array of trees and shrubs -- could be determined by the Office of Management and Budget, which has been reviewing the federal rule for the program since September. In the meantime, federal money has started to flow: The administration sent $23 million to the state offices of the Farm Service Agency in the fall, and is poised to distribute another $514 million.

            Biomass energy representatives, such as the Biomass Power Association president, Bob Cleaves, said those subsidies are critical to support a sector that currently supplies half of the nation's renewable energy (the other half coming from wind, solar and other sources). Seven of Maine's 10 biomass energy plants would have shut down without the new influx of funds, he said.

            "The industry needs help," Cleaves said. "Is the country not prepared to spend half a billion dollars on half the country's renewable energy resources?"

            The Agriculture Department, for its part, says it has no choice but to implement the subsidy the way Congress envisioned it under the 2008 farm bill. That legislation made no distinction between a waste product with little market value, such as corn husks, and the sawdust that sells for roughly $45 a dry ton.

            Farm Service Agency Administrator Jonathan Coppess said his agency is strictly adhering to the statute's language and intentions. "We understand that policymaking, legislation and rule making are perfecting processes, not perfect processes, and we look forward to providing the best regulation possible to implement an important program with significant potential to benefit our national energy and agricultural economies," Coppess said in a statement.

            But at least one key senator, Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) -- who helped author the 2008 farm bill as Agriculture Committee chairman at the time-- now questions whether the program has gone awry.

            "My bottom line is we have to examine those rules and make sure the payments incentivize the use of new, additional biomass for energy," Harkin said, "which is the objective Congress intends and wrote in the law."

            'At what expense?'
            In at least some cases, that's not happening. The federal government can provide up to $45 a ton in matching payments to businesses that collect, harvest, store and transport biomass waste to an authorized energy facility. That means sawdust or wood shavings may be twice as valuable if a lumber mill sells them to a biomass energy company instead of to a traditional buyer.

            This is bad news for the composite panel industry, which turns these materials into particleboard and medium-density fiberboard, and outranks the U.S. biomass industry in terms of employees and economic impact, with 21,000 employees and annual sales of $7.9 billion, according to 2006 U.S. Census data.

            The biomass subsidy program could "wipe us out," said T.J. Rosengarth, the vice president and chief operating officer of Flakeboard, the largest composite panel producer in North America. "You can say, 'I've made more alternative energy,' but at what expense?"

            The much larger pulp, paper, packaging and wood products industry, which ranks among the top 10 manufacturing employers in 48 states, is just as worried. The American Forest and Paper Association sent a letter to OMB on Oct. 27 warning that the biomass program "could have the unintended consequence of jeopardizing the forest products industry and the many jobs it sustains, as well as the significant quantities of renewable energy it produces."

            But pellet mill owners such as the Rolf Anderson, chief executive of Bear Mountain Forest Products, said the program will eventually create an incentive for people to bring small pieces of wood left by loggers out of the forest, which will give companies like his a cheap and steady stream of raw materials.

            "It opens up economic opportunities. It opens up healthier forests, and it helps companies and individuals save on their energy costs," said Anderson, whose company is based in Oregon.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by astralis View Post
              dread,



              if that was the case, would all the republican governors mind whom accepted stimulus funds on behalf of their state refund the monies to the government in the name of deficit cutting?

              How could one explain the fact that the spending more than just leans to Democratic districts??
              This study can't seem to....

              Party Affiliation

              For our analysis, we looked at the 435 congressional districts in the United States plus the District of Columbia, but excluded Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and foreign stimulus recipients, such as Canada. The average number of awards per district is 128, and the average dollar amount awarded per district is $355,103,891.

              There are 177 districts represented by Republicans and 259 represented by Democrats. On average, Democratic districts received 1.6 times more awards than Republican ones. The average number of awards per Republican district is 94, while the average number of awards per Democratic district is 152.

              Democratic districts also received 1.89 times more stimulus dollars than Republican districts. The average dollars awarded per Republican district is $232,047,857, while the average dollars awarded per Democratic district is $439,200,100. In total, Democratic districts received 73.47 percent of the total stimulus funds awarded. In terms of numbers of awards, Republican districts received 29.77 percent of the total, while Democratic districts received 70.22 percent.

              Other Political Variables

              An OLS regression analysis controlling for the district representative’s political party, tenure in office, leadership position, membership on the appropriations committee, as well as for the district’s unemployment, mean income (i.e., the average income of a given wage earner in the district), and the percentage of employed persons working in the construction sector in 2008 finds that having a Republican representative decreases a district’s stimulus award by 24 percent.

              This effect is statistically significant at the p < .001 level. (See Table 3 at end of this paper.) However, the regression analysis does not seek to explain (nor does it explain) precisely how funds were allocated (our R-squared = .05). That would require a more complete dataset than has been used for these results. While we have confidence in the relationships in which we are interested, a more complete model would change the parameter estimates we are reporting here.

              Furthermore, we find that there is no effect on the amount of stimulus funds allocated based on whether a district voted for John McCain or Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election. While $101,483,870,504 have been allocated to congressional districts that voted for President Obama (or 65.5 percent of the total amount allocated), $53,341, 425,974 (or 34.5 percent) have been allocated to congressional districts that voted for McCain. It should be noted, however, that there were many more congressional districts that voted for Obama than voted for McCain. President Obama won 55.6 percent of congressional districts, and McCain won 44.4 percent of these districts.

              The districts that voted for President Obama received 35,047 awards (or 62.7 percent of the total number of awards allocated), much more than the districts that voted for candidate McCain; they received 20,855 awards (or 37.3 percent of the total number of awards).

              The average awarded to marginal districts—districts with a difference between candidates of 5 percent or less—is $186,348,804. That’s significantly less than the average awarded to non-marginal districts of $387,379,454.

              House Leadership

              As noted earlier, the average congressional district received $355,103,891. In contrast, the average leadership district (defined as a district where the representative is part of the majority or minority House political leadership or is a chairman or ranking member of a committee) received $309,183,100.

              The average amount awarded to a leadership district is fairly comparable regardless of whether the leader is a member of the majority or the minority. The amount awarded to average majority leadership district is $306,098,932, while the amount awarded to average minority leadership district is $312,267,268. Notice that each of these amounts is less than the amount awarded to the average district and less than the amount awarded to the average non-leadership district, which is $361,052,180.

              On average, 128 contracts or grants were awarded to each congressional district. The number of awards to the average leadership district is 108; the number of awards to average majority leadership district is 138; and the number of awards to average minority leadership district is 79. The average non-leadership district received 131 awards, which is more than the number of awards to the average leadership district.
              Stimulus Facts | Mercatus

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              • #8
                citanon, robert,

                A red herring Astralis. The question is one of economic effect, not political, and it's further more relevant to the extent of waste, and the mere existence of benefit. Finally, one must also cut through the fog of short term relief vs. longer term economic benefit.
                not dread's assumption, which is:

                I wonder if people have yet figured out that Obama's stimulis package didnt help anyone but those the Democrats wish to control and those they already do.
                a political question AND an economic question. thus, if the stimulus is just a pay-off and only has utility to dems or would-be dems, then republican governors shouldn't be benefiting from the bill, yes?

                going to the mercatus study (itself co-written by a not-so-neutral resident fellow at AEI/Cato, libertarian institutes), i notice that even by their flawed methodology (ie their method of counting a district republican/democrat), republican districts received 30% of the funding, which is extraordinary considering not a single house republican voted for the bill, and only three republican senators.

                i wouldn't be surprised by any relevation re: a slant, simply because republicans effectively wrote out their own political say in the bill in favor of an unified front, but to say that the stimulus was 1.) one big pay-off 2.) worthless, that's stretching it too far.
                There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by astralis View Post
                  citanon, robert,



                  not dread's assumption, which is:



                  a political question AND an economic question. thus, if the stimulus is just a pay-off and only has utility to dems or would-be dems, then republican governors shouldn't be benefiting from the bill, yes?

                  going to the mercatus study (itself co-written by a not-so-neutral resident fellow at AEI/Cato, libertarian institutes), i notice that even by their flawed methodology (ie their method of counting a district republican/democrat), republican districts received 30% of the funding, which is extraordinary considering not a single house republican voted for the bill, and only three republican senators.

                  i wouldn't be surprised by any relevation re: a slant, simply because republicans effectively wrote out their own political say in the bill in favor of an unified front, but to say that the stimulus was 1.) one big pay-off 2.) worthless, that's stretching it too far.
                  I went into the research looking to prove the Dem's were up to something nefarious....but didn't reach that conclusion and even with the results of that study didn't seem to prove any type of smoking gun "proof" that I thought I could prove and will not claim otherwise...Looking at the whole picture the one conclusion that I can say at this point is....there are more Democratic districts...all to simple.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Robert W View Post
                    I went into the research looking to prove the Dem's were up to something nefarious....but didn't reach that conclusion and even with the results of that study didn't seem to prove any type of smoking gun "proof" that I thought I could prove and will not claim otherwise...Looking at the whole picture the one conclusion that I can say at this point is....there are more Democratic districts...all to simple.
                    The question I'm more interested in is: was the spending in the stimulus wise. There are lots of different ways to spend a trillion dollars that would all stimulate the economy in the short term. The problem is that only a few of them are actually beneficial in the longer term, and some ways could be terribly damaging.

                    "It did some good" should not be the only bar for borrowing and spending a trillion dollars.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by citanon View Post
                      "It did some good" should not be the only bar for borrowing and spending a trillion dollars.

                      Agreed....
                      A road is a road and the benefits are around a lot longer than a "daycare center" giving all of it's employees a raise....

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                      • #12
                        What a joke.
                        White House changes stimulus job accounting
                        New method will make it impossible to track ones saved or created
                        The Associated Press
                        updated 2:35 p.m. PT, Tues., Jan. 12, 2010

                        WASHINGTON - The White House has abandoned its controversial method of counting jobs under President Barack Obama's economic stimulus, making it impossible to track the number of jobs saved or created with the $787 billion in recovery money.

                        Despite mounting a vigorous defense of its earlier count of more than 640,000 jobs credited to the stimulus, even after numerous errors were identified, the Obama administration now is making it easier to give the stimulus credit for hiring. It's no longer about counting a job as saved or created; now it's a matter of counting jobs funded by the stimulus.

                        That means that any stimulus money used to cover payroll will be included in the jobs credited to the program, including pay raises for existing employees and pay for people who never were in jeopardy of losing their positions.


                        The new rules, quietly published last month in a memorandum to federal agencies, mark the White House's latest response to criticism about the way it counts jobs credited to the stimulus. When The Associated Press first reported flaws in the job counts in October, the White House said errors were being corrected and future counts would provide a full and correct accounting of just how many stimulus jobs were saved or created.

                        Numbers published last month identified more than 640,000 jobs linked to stimulus projects around the country. The White House said the public could have confidence in those new numbers, which officials argued proved the administration was on track to keep Obama's promise that the stimulus would save or create 3.5 million jobs by the end of this year.

                        But more errors were found, with tens of thousands of problems documented in corrected counts, from the substantive to the clerical. Republicans have used those flaws to attack what so far is the signature domestic policy approved during Obama's presidency.

                        The new rules are intended to streamline the process, said Tom Gavin, spokesman for the White House's Office of Management and Budget. They came in response to grant recipients who complained the reporting was too complicated, from lawmakers who complained the job counts were inconsistent and from watchdog groups who complained the information was unreliable, Gavin said.

                        "We're trying to make this as consistent and as uniform as we possibly can," he said.

                        The new stimulus job reports will continue to offer details about jobs and projects. But they were never expected to be the public accounting of Obama's goal to save or create 3.5 million jobs, Gavin said.

                        The quarterly job reports posted on the Web site for the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board reflect only a fraction of the jobs created under the program and can't account for job creation stemming from other stimulus programs such as tax rebates and other federal aid, the spokesman said.

                        But the result of the new rules will be that future claims of job creation from the stimulus will be even more misleading, said Rep. Darrell Issa, the ranking Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

                        "It is troubling that the administration is changing the rules and further inflating the Recovery Act's impact and masking the failure of the stimulus to produce sustainable economic growth or real job creation," Issa said in a letter sent last week to the government board monitoring stimulus spending.

                        Recipients of recovery money no longer have to show that a job would have been lost without the stimulus help, and they no longer are required to keep an ongoing tally of jobs saved or created. The new rules allow stimulus recipients to limit the job tally to quarterly reports, making it impossible to avoid double-counting a job that was created in one quarter and continued into the next.

                        Issa wants the Recovery Board, the government's independent oversight panel, to change how it identifies the count of stimulus jobs and to add a note on its Recovery.gov Web site explaining that there is now a different definition for what constitutes a job under the stimulus.

                        Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

                        URL: White House changes stimulus job accounting - Stocks & economy- msnbc.com

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                        • #13
                          Ironic isit it? When the Dems claimed Mr Obama's stimulis package helped create XXX,XXXX amount of jobs they were asked one question in rhetoric...who was number XXX,XXXX job saved and or created. They couldnt answer this question either. Why? Because they truelly dont know and their numbers nowhere near accurate but for face saving purposes. Which in effect means absolutely zero to those looking for jobs or trying to keep their jobs. It dont surprise me that they will try and hide the numbers before someone discovers the real truth.:))
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