The Army Should Rid Itself Of Symbols Of Treason

[astralis]

let's be clear, the Confederate monuments weren't designed as "memorialization" of heritage/traitors/etc.

they were designed as a very in-your-face reminder to certain sections of the populace about who is on top.

[GVChamp]

You and me versus all the Indians on this board. Bose and India.

Aside from that, the Scots and the Irish don't have a soft spot for England. I can't count how many times traitors got popularized in the Turkic/Mongol Khanates. Same can be said for pre-Crusade Europe. The CCP is now lionizing the NRA for their acts in WWII. Tito is remembered fondly in all the FYR.

Then, there is Africa. Hutus and Tustsis still believe they've done nothing wrong, 2nd Congo War ain't really finished.

Actually, not that hard if you can stomache reading about the worst of humanity.

Any nation with any length of history is going to have a crap ton of this because history gets revised and certain ethnic groups get marginalized but not totally destroyed. Spain has freaking two movements right at this moment, and the Francoist period was not that long ago.
Also, it's only treason if you lose.

The US is still pretty young and has been politically stable for most of its history, so we don't have a ton of this.

[Bigfella]

Plenty of Lenins left and he was a 'rebel'.

Yes, but they were mostly put up by the regime that he founded or adherents to Marxist/Leninist movements. Can't think of any put up by Tsarists or Whites. I also recall quite a few of those statues (though obviously not all) coming to grief after the fall of Communism, along with a lot of other statues & memorials to said regimes, including place names. I would argue that particular purge has been far more comprehensive than what has happened to Confederate monuments, and they were from regimes that lasted decades, even generations.

[Gun Grape]

Go play with your models, Gunny

OK. Done. Can I start picking on the Army again?

[Officer of Engineers]

GS,

Maybe do a GAVIN next? With a pic of FT SPARKS behind? Would love to know it looks

[snapper]

Yes, but they were mostly put up by the regime that he founded or adherents to Marxist/Leninist movements. Can't think of any put up by Tsarists or Whites. I also recall quite a few of those statues (though obviously not all) coming to grief after the fall of Communism, along with a lot of other statues & memorials to said regimes, including place names. I would argue that particular purge has been far more comprehensive than what has happened to Confederate monuments, and they were from regimes that lasted decades, even generations.

Alot still exist in Belarus and Muscovy. Most of the Lenins in Ukraine went in early 2014. I saw a bunch of people trying to break apart one Lenin statue in the outskirts of Lviv/Lwow in February 2014 and one old guy hugging this lump of concrete trying to protect it. Don't know if he was an unyielding Leninist or what his motives were but it was quite sad to me.

[Albany Rifles]

Yes, but they were mostly put up by the regime that he founded or adherents to Marxist/Leninist movements. Can't think of any put up by Tsarists or Whites. I also recall quite a few of those statues (though obviously not all) coming to grief after the fall of Communism, along with a lot of other statues & memorials to said regimes, including place names. I would argue that particular purge has been far more comprehensive than what has happened to Confederate monuments, and they were from regimes that lasted decades, even generations.

Reminds me of this gem....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Monument_Park

[Albany Rifles]

GS,

Maybe do a GAVIN next? With a pic of FT SPARKS behind? Would love to know it looks

Colonel, this is my reminder that FT Hood has 50% more Soldiers assigned there than in all of the Canadian Army....Active & Reserve.

[Officer of Engineers]

Colonel, this is my reminder that FT Hood has 50% more Soldiers assigned there than in all of the Canadian Army....Active & Reserve.

That is so cool. I can just imagine the number of air mech war instructors you can send around the world, especially Canada. I can't wait to read FM-SPARKS!

[kato]

In airborne Gavins with underslung 8-inch guns?

[Albany Rifles]

That is so cool. I can just imagine the number of air mech war instructors you can send around the world, especially Canada. I can't wait to read FM-SPARKS!

You'll have to squint real hard to read what that pinhead writes....

[Albany Rifles]

In airborne Gavins with underslung 8-inch guns?

Kato, does Germany even HAVE an Army anymore?

[kato]

There are no doubt a few statues here & there around the world of people who rebelled against the nation's government - Cromwell is an example, though he actually took over - but I can't think of any situation comparable to the hundreds upon hundreds of Confederate monuments/memorializations all over the US (including in Union states).

In Germany memoralization of the 1848 revolutions and the subsequent counterrevolutions is still rather controversial between political camps, and while not very public there are hundreds of memorials for "either side", both from the past and from more recent decades.

It's of course not as controversial, but there were curious cases such as when the battle over whether a square in Berlin - site of some fights in '48 - should be renamed "Square of the March Revolution" took nearly a decade between the conservative government and opposition in the 90s, with it ending in the site being named that formally in the register - but you won't find any signs there telling you that...

Kato, does Germany even HAVE an Army anymore?

We sorta subcontracted that to the Dutch i think. And have the Poles and Romanians lined up somewhere in the plans, if the Czechs don't get there first.

[Officer of Engineers]

We sorta subcontracted that to the Dutch i think. And have the Poles and Romanians lined up somewhere in the plans, if the Czechs don't get there first.

Are they a good bargin? Can they take our ex-wives with them?

[snapper]

Quite likely they will ban divorce in Poland; un-Polish.