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  • Originally posted by Bigfella View Post

    No worries Buck. Not intended to cover all of them, but far too many.
    Sadly, yes
    “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
    Mark Twain

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    • Anti-semitism is unfortunately not restricted to the GoP/Trumpists or the right anyway. There are enough of the "I'm only against Zionists, not Jews (wink wink)" folk on the left, most of them in the universities, poisoning the minds of the next generation.

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      • Anti-semitism is unfortunately not restricted to the GoP/Trumpists or the right anyway. There are enough of the "I'm only against Zionists, not Jews (wink wink)" folk on the left, most of them in the universities, poisoning the minds of the next generation.
        yes, there's the perpetual Free Palestine brigade, but those folks have never played a significant role on the left. if anything, that strain is rather stronger in the UK a la Corbyn.

        even more so recently, because given Netanyahu's posturing and the increasing poison of alt-right, a lot of moderate Jewish-Americans have moved to the Democratic Party.

        also, the slow realization that the rabidly pro-Israel evangelicals are pro-Israel not because they love Jews, but because from the evangelical standpoint, gathering all the Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for Rapture.

        There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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        • Originally posted by astralis View Post

          also, the slow realization that the rabidly pro-Israel evangelicals are pro-Israel not because they love Jews, but because from the evangelical standpoint, gathering all the Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for Rapture.
          Slow realization? I always thought the Israelis know this very well and use American evangelicals as useful idiots. Can't see the flaw in doing that myself since the rapture is never going to happen.

          Being anti-Netanyahu or anti-Israeli policies and west bank settlements is fine. But alarms start going off in my head when people talk of being against Zionists and Zionism. What the hell does that mean? If you are against Zionism, then by definition you are against the very existence of the Jewish state of Israel in its present location. So what do you plan to do about the millions of Jews living there? No different from the Ayatollah at that point. Anyway, getting OT now so no more from me on this.
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          • Everyone Trump Touches Dies: The List
            He revealed people for what they really were.

            Bill Barr? He gone.

            Barr began the Year of Our Lord 2016 as a well respected member of the conservative legal establishment. He concludes 2020 with his reputation destroyed, destined to be remembered as the most dishonorable attorney general in a century. The fact that he tried to salvage his legacy in the closing weeks of his tenure looks less like a man standing up and more like Meat Loaf.

            He would do anything for Trump. But he won’t do . . . that.

            A wise man once prophesied that everything Trump touches dies. And while this turns out not to be as reliable as a law of thermodynamics, it works just fine as a general rule of thumb.

            Every presidential administration chews up and spits out one or two people. There are always guys who enter an administration looking like normal, upstanding citizens and exit having been revealed as hucksters, frauds, or criminals. G. Gordon Liddy. Pat Buchanan. Cap Weinberger. John Poindexter. Sometimes the people who get rendered by a president are good guys who catch a bad break, like Mike Espy.

            But the sheer number of people who had their lives and/or careers destroyed over four years of swimming in Donald Trump’s slipstream is kind of staggering.

            So let’s take a walking tour through the human wreckage of the Trump years.

            Because, with just a few important exceptions—most notably the Republican Senate majority—pretty much everyone Trump touched, died.
            They Lost Everything

            (1) Paul Manafort was an anonymous conservative consultant who had parlayed his years as a political operative into untold riches. Until he took a call from Donald Trump and agreed to become his campaign manager. That was June 20, 2016. Manafort was fired on August 17, 2016.

            Because of the 58 days he spent working for Trump, Manafort wound up losing everything. He lost his license to practice law. He was arrested, tried, and sentenced to 47 months in jail. In separate charges, he pled guilty to conspiracy to defraud the United States and witness tampering, and for this was fined $22 million and had an additional 30 months tacked on to his sentence. Probably not worth it. (Unless the alternative was getting whacked by some Russian mobsters, I guess).

            (2) Michael Cohen was Donald Trump’s personal fixer, a guy who skated on the line of the law. Had Trump not become president, Cohen would have lived his comfortable life indefinitely. Instead, he was arrested, charged, convicted, and disbarred. He’s currently serving a three year stretch in prison.

            (3) Jerry Falwell Jr. was the Kim Jong-Un of Liberty University, the maximum leader whose reign of terror allowed him to live an opulent lifestyle under the radar. Then he signed on to Team Trump. His—no judgments here—proclivities found their way out into the world and his behavior became so deranged and debauched that his father’s university pushed him out. He now wanders the countryside looking for pool boys with excellent business ideas and hoping that his $10.5 million hush-money package from Liberty will be enough to last him a few decades.

            (4) Sidney Powell was an anonymous career attorney. She checked boxes as an AUSA and then high-powered corporate lawyer. She could have enjoyed her autumn years as a member of the lower-upper class and retired quietly. Instead, she’ll forever be remembered as the Crazy Kraken Lady.

            (5) Jeff Sessions was a senator for life. Then he endorsed Trump. As a reward, he was gifted the AG job. And then publicly humiliated. And then fired. And then Trump campaigned against him when he ran for his old Senate seat. Which he wound up losing to a washed up college football coach.

            I know that might sound like a bad deal. But at least he got to separate Mexican kids from their families, put them in cages, and then send their parents home without their children. And for a good ole’ boy like Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, some things are priceless.

            (6) Steve Bannon was an autodidact, film producer, layer game grandmaster, and chairman of a burgeoning global network of racist blogs. He even got to live gratis in a faux embassy with a replica Lincoln Bedroom. Then he took the cursed job of Trump campaign manager. Next thing you know, he’s getting rousted out of his stateroom on a Chinese billionaire’s yacht by the cops. He’s charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and money laundering and looking at possibly 40 years in jail.

            His trial date is set for May 24, 2021.

            (7) Michael Flynn was a respected retired general until he came into Trump’s orbit. He wound up pleading guilty to making false statements to the FBI. And then things went really sideways for him:
            General Flynn @GenFlynn


            (8) Rudy Giuliani became America’s mayor in the aftermath of 9/11. If he hadn’t started working for Donald Trump, New Yorkers probably would have named an airport or a stadium or a bridge for him. He would have been put up on the high shelf with Fiorello La Guardia.

            Instead, he’ll be remembered for waddling around, while . . . impaired. Farting and having his hair dye running down his face while trying to help the president of the United States overturn the results of a free and fair election through a series of lies. He’ll be remembered as a cautionary tale. As an enemy of democracy.

            (9) Brad Parscale made bank from Trump in 2016 and then, like an idiot, accepted the Death Job of campaign manager. Next thing you know he’s fired. Then out of his mind. Then getting carted off from his house by the po-po, shirtless, like a Special Guest Star on COPS.

            (10) David Pecker was the most powerful tabloid mogul in America. Then he turned his trash empire into an arm of the Trump campaign, because reasons. After a series investigations of his company’s role in working on Trump’s behalf, Pecker sold his tabloids to Hudson Media and was subsequently pushed out of the organization by the new owners. Leaving him limp and powerless.

            (11) Steve King had been a racist crank with a House seat for a dozen years with no one outside of Washngton being any the wiser. Suddenly Donald Trump descends like the great White Eagle and people start picking on King just because he thinks white supremacism is okay.

            And then he draws a primary challenger and gets beat like a drum.

            (12) Roger Ailes was like the Jerry Falwell Jr. of Fox News—a guy who got away with everything for forever because people were terrified of him. But Ailes signed onto the Trump train and the Trump train helped spark the #MeToo movement—I posit to you that Harvey Weinstein and #MeToo never achieve the salience they did absent the election of the guy from the Access Hollywood tape as president of the United States.

            Ailes was fired for his transgressions. Ten months later he was dead.

            (13) 300,000 Americans are dead today because of COVID-19. That number will continue to grow over the next 10 months. Many of those deaths—at least scores of thousands of them—can fairly be attributed to the actions of President Donald Trump.

            By the way, that’s why I’m putting this list together. It’s not just the shameful joy of seeing bad things happen to bad people. It’s because it’s important to document this era in American politics and to remember what happened and who did what. Most of these guys—at least the ones who aren’t dead, or dying, or in jail—plan to just spend a few years golfing and hanging out at Trump Tower Istanbul before returning to a life of Davos panels, podcast stardom, and ambassadorships the next time a Republican becomes president with a minority of the vote.

            We’re not going to get an Official Truth and Reconciliation Commission, so we need to do that work ourselves.

            If you’d like to be a part of that, then sign up for Bulwark+ and help us rebuild the political space that these people broke and hold them to account the next time they stick they try to zoom into our lives from a gold lamé throne.

            Accountability is going to be especially important for this next batch.
            They Lost A Lot (But Not Everything)

            (14) Rex Tillerson was the long-time CEO of one of the most valuable companies on the planet. He was four months away from getting his gold watch and a $180 million retirement bonus when Donald Trump came offering the SecState job. Tillerson gave up the money for the chance to be somebody famous. After 13 months, Trump fired him. Later, the president of the United States called him "dumb as a rock" and "lazy as hell.” Good times.

            (15) Jeffrey Lord was one of those guys who owed Trump everything. A forgotten nobody from the Reagan years, in early 2016 cable news executives ran an open casting call trying to find conservatives who were willing to go on TV and defend/promote Donald Trump. They were willing to take anyone. And so, Jeffrey Lord raised his hand and was given a CNN gig.

            But you know how it is. You get hired to lube up the Orange God King and then you kind of lean into the job and the next thing you know you’re getting fired for tweeting perfectly innocent “Sieg Heil” stuff. And so Jeff went from being an obscure conservative writer to a disgraced Baghdad Bob.

            (16) Kirstjen Nielsen was a low-level functionary in the George W. Bush administration who rose to be secretary of Homeland Security under Trump. Probably because she was totally qualified for the job. But while she went along with the family separation policy, she didn’t go hard enough for Trump’s liking. So he fired her.

            By most accounts, Nielsen was the one cabinet member who had something like a conscience about what she was doing. But she kept her mouth shut. And for her silence she was rewarded by Trump with a post-firing appointment to the National Infrastructure Advisory Council.

            Which, if we can be honest, might be the greatest troll job in the entire Trump oeuvre. Her reward for omerta was a gig pretending to work on . . . Infrastructure Week!

            (17) John Bolton was part of Conservatism Inc.’s executive circle. A made man. But he wanted to be part of the action, so he did what all ambitious establishment conservatives started doing in 2016: Going on Fox and proclaiming the enduring genius of Donald J. Trump every day, waiting for the big man to notice him and invite him over to the casting couch.

            It worked. Bolton got his National Security Advisor gig. But then he wouldn’t do the drug deal and he got read out of the movement. Now he sits on the outside, wishing he had sold more books and running the Larry Hogan strategy: hoping that Trump will disappear and Good Republicans will return to their rightful place of dominance within the party.

            Good luck with that, bro.

            (18) Scott Pruitt was on a rocketship to the moon in the old Republican party: C+ levels of charisma, A+ levels of ambition. He deftly balanced the “climate change is a hoax” crazy with the faux serious “policy wonk” schtick. This guy had a leadership role in the Jeb Bush campaign and still finagled his way into the Trump cabinet. That’s skill.

            Had Donald Trump never become president, Pruitt was on the Jim Inhoffe glide path in Oklahoma. Governorship. Senator. Maybe leadership, Sooner or later. (YSWIDT?) He didn’t have a challenging campaign in sight.

            But for some reason he tied his star to Trump. Got slotted into the EPA administrator role, became accustomed to the lifestyle of his charlatan boss and began imitating him. Next thing you know, he’s out on his ass for making government workers do his laundry and calling in favors for his family.

            Now he’s an energy lobbyist and his sole client is a coal company. Big future in coal.
            All They Lost Was Their Souls
            As you get further down the list there are a bunch of people from Trump’s orbit who didn’t go to jail or lose their jobs, but who marked themselves forever as frauds, clowns, and worse. These are people who, no matter what, will have their Trump days at the top of their Wikipedia page, for forever:
            • Sean Spicer
            • Reince Priebus
            • Kim Strassel
            • The Claremont Institute
            • First Things magazine
            • Corey Lewandowski
            • Joe diGenova
            • Rick Gates
            • K.T. McFarland
            • Ken Cuccinelli
            • Ronna “Don’t Call Me Romney” McDaniel
            • Lin Wood
            • Gordon Sondland
            • Mark Esper
            • Kris Kobach
            • Eric Metaxas
            • Steve Moore
            • Scott Atlas
            • Victor Davis Hanson
            • Peter Navarro
            I’m sure I’m missing at least another two dozen entries. Feel free to email me your nominations.
            A Huckster Shall Rise
            Of course, in every administration there’s always someone who makes out. Usually it’s a figure who came out of nowhere with nothing to lose and manages to build a brand.

            There are a handful of people outside the administration who end the Trump years better off than they started: Charlie Kirk, Dan Crenshaw, Matt Gaetz, Mollie Hemingway. They all made their bones by being willing to defend anything Trump said or did, no matter how stupid, vile, or destructive. And good for them. There was a market niche very few people were willing to fill; so they stepped up. That’s capitalism, baby!

            But there’s only one big winner from the Trump saga—a person whose entire career and future was made because of her association with Trump: Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

            Absent the election of Donald Trump, Sarah Huckabee Sanders would have been just another member of Conservatism Inc.’s nepotism club: An undistinguished, but ambitious, child of a famous politician who thought she was entitled to power, too. Like a poor man’s George P. Bush or Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

            But SHS rode Trump all the way to the White House and managed to get a job which allowed her to prove her MAGA bona fides daily, but without ever having responsibility for outcomes in the real world. She understood, intuitively, that power in the Trump administration flowed not from your position or responsibilities, but from your ability to be on TV every day, defending Trump in the most over-the-top manner possible.

            And for her service, her reward in Arkansas will be great.
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            Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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            • He should have moved Kobach up the board a bit. Became so toxic that even Republicans wouldn't nominate him for a gimmie seat in Kansas. Great article.
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              • Originally posted by American_Military_News

                Chinese Communist Party member data leaked, shows thousands in US government, companies and more

                14 December 2020

                A leaked database of 2 million Chinese Communist Party (CCP) members revealed that thousands of Chinese communist members infiltrated U.S., U.K., and Australian government agencies and companies, new reports revealed over the weekend.

                The database leak, originally reported by The Australian, revealed the identities of nearly 2 million CCP members, thousands of which were discovered to be employed by western businesses and government agencies, and 79,000 branches of the CCP.

                The Australian described more than 7,000 CCP members identified in just seven major global companies.
                Volkswagen: 5,700
                Boeing: 287
                AstraZeneca: 54
                Pfizer: 69
                QualCom: 229
                Hewlett-Packard: 390
                HSBC: 345

                Boeing and QualComm are just two companies identified with U.S. military contracts. Aerospace giant Boeing has billions of dollars worth of contracts with the U.S. military, while QualComm manufactures computer chips and other hardware for the U.S. Department of Defense’s IT systems and more.

                AstraZeneca and Pfizer are two major pharmaceutical companies that have been involved in the COVID-19 coronavirus vaccine development.

                Investigators cross-referenced the database with CCP members’ names on the list, discovering that some infiltrators even gained roles as senior political and government affairs specialists. CCP members used a recruitment agency to infiltrate U.S., British, and Australian consulates in Shanghai, China.

                An intelligence officer told The Australian that CCP members working in governments “is a totally unacceptable security risk,” adding, “In some cases, they go beyond being a security risk, and actually do the bidding of China in attempting to influence governments overseas. The recent raids in Sydney are an example of this.”

                The infiltration efforts reportedly spanned for more than a decade. Although investigators did not find evidence that the CCP members had spied for China, security experts warned that sensitive information could potentially reach China through the CCP members.

                “Allowing members of the CCP to work for such companies risks their stealing technology, providing intelligence to China on forthcoming weapons systems and capabilities, or on force structures built around those capabilities,” one intelligence officer told The Australian.

                Banks were also the targets of CCP infiltration efforts. The Daily Mail reported 600 CCP loyalists were working in across 19 branches of two British banks, HSBC and Standard Chartered in 2016.

                The Daily Mail reported both British banks drew criticism for their response to the Chinese government’s legislative takeover of Hong Kong this Summer. Over the summer, HSBC reportedly issued a statement denouncing pro-Hong Kong protests against the Chinese government’s takeover, and recently froze the accounts of exiled Hong Kong lawmaker Ted Hui.

                According to the Daily Mail, the database was initially leaked to the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC) in September by a Chinese dissident. The database was then reportedly authenticated by the Australian cybersecurity firm Internet 2.0 and the findings from the data were originally released to four media organizations around the world, including the Daily Mail.

                The IPAC is an international organization that monitors Chinese government activity, and to advise lawmakers on policies to counteract Chinese efforts.

                The reports on the CCP member database come just days after a recent report by Axios revealed a Chinese national, named Christine Fang or Fang Fang, had gotten close to a number of U.S. politicians, including Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) who is a member of the House Intelligence Committee. Fang was under FBI surveillance and was suspected of being a member of China’s main civilian spy agency, the Ministry of State Security (MSS). It is believed that her reason for being in the U.S. was to gather political intelligence and influence rising U.S. officials on China-related issues.

                Fang reportedly participated in fundraising events for various U.S. politicians, including Swalwell and reportedly gained access to politicians through networking, personal charisma and even romantic and sexual relations, as in the case of two Midwestern mayors she reportedly came in contact with.

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                • Originally posted by Firestorm View Post
                  But alarms start going off in my head when people talk of being against Zionists and Zionism. What the hell does that mean? If you are against Zionism, then by definition you are against the very existence of the Jewish state of Israel in its present location. So what do you plan to do about the millions of Jews living there? No different from the Ayatollah at that point. Anyway, getting OT now so no more from me on this.
                  Nope. Not even.

                  Today, in the 21st Century, being anti-Zionist usually means you are against the expansionist policies of the State of Israel, especially at the cost of Palestinian populations on the West Bank, Golan and Gaza.

                  It is an opposition to the policies of the government of Israel not an opposition to the State of Israel. As with all beliefs there are outliers but anti semitism is not at its core. And where is this "wide scale" anit-semitism you see on university campuses? Because I believe you are conflating the two above incorrectly.

                  It was like the anti-apartheid movement and South Africa...it was not an anti-South African movement as it was an anti-white minority government which oppressed the majority native population movement.
                  “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                  Mark Twain

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                  • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                    I can hear the document shredders being fired up and the email servers being formatted from here lol
                    The best part of 2021....electronic records ALWAYS exist!
                    “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                    Mark Twain

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                    • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
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                      By the way, that’s why I’m putting this list together. It’s not just the shameful joy of seeing bad things happen to bad people. It’s because it’s important to document this era in American politics and to remember what happened and who did what. Most of these guys—at least the ones who aren’t dead, or dying, or in jail—plan to just spend a few years golfing and hanging out at Trump Tower Istanbul before returning to a life of Davos panels, podcast stardom, and ambassadorships the next time a Republican becomes president with a minority of the vote.
                      Thank you for your service, sir.
                      Trust me?
                      I'm an economist!

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                      • Originally posted by DOR View Post

                        Thank you for your service, sir.
                        Not me, it's the guy who wrote the article
                        Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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                        • Voting machine firm demands pro-Trump attorney retract bogus claims about 2020 election

                          The Colorado voting machine company that fringe pro-Trump forces have targeted with dark conspiracy theories of a rigged 2020 election is demanding that conservative lawyer Sidney Powell retract the "wild, knowingly baseless, and false" allegations she has made against them.

                          Dominion Voting Systems made their demands in a letter to Powell, who has taken a central role in pushing the debunked theory that dark forces rigged Dominion machines to flip votes from Trump to former Vice President Joe Biden.

                          The company's letter represents its most aggressive posture to date, and signals the early stages of what could become heavy and costly pushback against the lawyers who have led a post-election campaign to discredit the 2020 election results. Pro-Trump attorneys have filed more than 60 lawsuits as part of the effort, nearly all of which have been dismissed, often with sharply-worded rulings.

                          Despite having been repeatedly disputed by the company and disproven by federal election officials, the bogus conspiracy theory has spread fast and wide on social media and in conservative media outlets.

                          Powell made the claims in the pages of post-election federal lawsuits filed in four states, all of which were forcefully rejected by judges.

                          "While you are entitled to your own opinions, Ms. Powell, you are not entitled to your own facts," Dominion attorney Thomas A. Clare wrote in the letter, which also asks Powell to preserve any documents and messages related to the matter.

                          "As a result of your false accusations, Dominion has suffered enormous harm, and its employees have been stalked, have been harassed, and have received death threats," Clare wrote. "For the safety of Dominion's employees and for the sake of the truth and confidence in American democracy, we demand that you immediately and publicly retract your false accusations and set the record straight."

                          Dominion's voting machines are used in 28 states across the country, some of which were won by Trump in this year's election.

                          Numerous legal experts have told ABC News the legal effort to overturn results in the 2020 presidential election bordered on abusive. This week the attorney general in Pennsylvania said he was looking into sanctions against attorneys who brought nearly two dozen election lawsuits in the state.

                          "Attorneys who try to disenfranchise Pennsylvania voters based on frivolous allegations should be held accountable," a spokesperson for Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro told ABC News. "We're continuing to explore our options and will not hesitate to take action if we conclude it is warranted."

                          ABC News has not received a response from Powell about the Dominion letter.

                          Powell, who rose to prominence last year defending Trump's embattled former national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, was publicly removed from the Trump legal team earlier this month after her claims began veering into far more conspiratorial territory. But Trump has continued to embrace her legal efforts on social media.
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                          It is beyond the time for these lowlife pieces of shit to start paying the price for the damage that they've done to this country's intuitions.
                          Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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                          • I want to see some serious fines and disbarments....
                            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                            Mark Twain

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                            • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post
                              I want to see some serious fines and disbarments....
                              Starting with that nutjob Sidney Powell.

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                              • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

                                Nope. Not even.

                                Today, in the 21st Century, being anti-Zionist usually means you are against the expansionist policies of the State of Israel, especially at the cost of Palestinian populations on the West Bank, Golan and Gaza.

                                It is an opposition to the policies of the government of Israel not an opposition to the State of Israel. As with all beliefs there are outliers but anti semitism is not at its core. And where is this "wide scale" anit-semitism you see on university campuses? Because I believe you are conflating the two above incorrectly.

                                It was like the anti-apartheid movement and South Africa...it was not an anti-South African movement as it was an anti-white minority government which oppressed the majority native population movement.
                                You can be against all these things without wearing the label "anti-Zionist." Even the US doesn't agree with the settlement practices. Taking up the label of "anti-zionist" is a choice that means a whole lot of stuff besides "I support the current US position on Israel."

                                I dismiss anyone who says they are an anti-zionist out of hand. There is no value in trying to sort wheat from chaff. Anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes online knows that there are a whole bunch of moronic Israel-bashers flying the anti-zionist label, and even if they aren't anti-semitic AT THEIR CORE, in practice they are just useful idiots for the anti-semitic crowd.
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