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  • Tops, Fox is not a favorite. It has declined under the tutelage of those lefty Murdoch boys. They are hardly a chip off the old block.

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    • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
      Tops, Fox is not a favorite. It has declined under the tutelage of those lefty Murdoch boys. They are hardly a chip off the old block.
      LMAO there we go, right on cue.

      They're not a favorite but you post links from them all the time. Got it.

      Also, not a word...not a single word from you about that Fox News clip.

      "Don't give a damn" confirmed.
      My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.

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      • Trump demands firing of Fox News reporter who backed story he called dead US soldiers 'suckers'

        President Donald Trump has called for the firing of Fox News' security correspondent after she backed a bombshell report alleged he branded dead US soldiers "suckers" and "losers".

        The right-wing news channel, which is broadly supportive of the president, spent much of Friday morning attacking the initial exclusive by The Atlantic, particularly its use of unnamed sources.

        But later the same day, Jennifer Griffin confirmed much of the reporting about Mr Trump's apparent disdain for veterans.

        In a lengthy Twitter thread, Ms Griffin said former Trump administration officials had confirmed Mr Trump "disparaged veterans" and did not want to drive to a cemetery in France to honour American war dead during a visit to Paris in 2018.

        “When the President spoke about the Vietnam War, he said, 'It was a stupid war. Anyone who went was a sucker'," Ms Griffin said a former official told her.

        She added: "I read the source a few quotes from The Atlantic article. This former Trump admin official said, 'The President would say things like that. He doesn't know why people join the military. He would muse, "Why do they do it"?'"

        According to The Atlantic, Mr Trump told aides he did not want to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetary because it was "filled with losers".

        It was reported at the time that the trip was cancelled because his helicopter was unable fly in the rain that day and Secret Service was unable to take him to the cemetery.

        Another incident from the same trip involved Mr Trump allegedly calling the Marines who died at Belleau Wood, one of the toughest battles for the Marines during the First World War, “suckers”.

        Other allegations in the report include Mr Trump asking his then-secretary of homeland security, General John Kelly, why his son, 1st Lieutenent Robert Kelly, had bothered to sacrifice his life by joining the military.

        "I don't get it. What was in it for them?," Mr Trump is said to have told General Kelly in 2017 while stood next to his son's grave in Arlington Cemetery, Virginia.

        Mr Trump has vehemently denied the reports, and the White House on Friday summoned a host of Trump allies to defend the president against the allegations.

        "The Atlantic Magazine is dying, like most magazines, so they make up a fake story in order to gain some relevance," Mr Trump tweeted on Friday, providing no evidence for his claim the magazine is struggling financially.

        He later attacked Fox News over its coverage, called for Ms Griffin's firing, and suggested General Kelly himself could have been an anonymous source quoted in The Atlantic.
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        Speaking of "right on cue" lol
        My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.

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        • So Jacob Blake did not just allegedly sexually assault a woman but stole her Ford Explorer.
          So the jack wagon was also attempting to flee the Police in a stolen vehicle.
          https://www.foxnews.com/us/jacob-bla...ed-against-him

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          • White Supremacists Are Top Terror Threat In DHS Draft Assessments: Report

            White supremacists present the gravest terror threat to the United States, according to a draft report from the Department of Homeland Security.

            Two later draft versions of the same document — all of which were reviewed by POLITICO — describe the threat from white supremacists in slightly different language. But all three drafts describe the threat from white supremacists as the deadliest domestic terror threat facing the U.S., listed above the immediate danger from foreign terrorist groups.

            “Foreign terrorist organizations will continue to call for Homeland attacks but probably will remain constrained in their ability to direct such plots over the next year,” all three documents say.
            Russia “probably will be the primary covert foreign influence actor and purveyor of disinformation and misinformation in the Homeland,” the documents also say.

            Former acting DHS Sec. Kevin McAleenan last year directed the department to start producing annual homeland threat assessments. POLITICO reviewed three drafts of this year’s report — titled DHS’s State of the Homeland Threat Assessment 2020 — all of which were produced in August. Ben Wittes, the editor in chief of the national security site Lawfare, obtained the documents and shared them with POLITICO. The first such assessment has not been released publicly, and a DHS spokesperson declined to comment on “allegedly leaked documents,” and on when the document will be made public.

            None of the drafts POLITICO reviewed referred to a threat from Antifa, the loose cohort of militant left-leaning agitators who senior Trump administration officials have described as domestic terrorists. Two of the drafts refer to extremists trying to exploit the “social grievances” driving lawful protests.

            The cut-off date for information analyzed in the earliest draft is August 3, 2020, while the cut-off date for the next two is August 27.

            John Cohen, who oversaw DHS’s counterterrorism portfolio from 2011 to 2014, said the drafts’ conclusion isn’t surprising.

            “This draft document seems to be consistent with earlier intelligence reports from DHS, the FBI, and other law enforcement sources: that the most significant terror-related threat facing the US today comes from violent extremists who are motivated by white supremacy and other far-right ideological causes,” he said.

            Wittes, meanwhile, said the change in language on white supremacist terrorism is significant.

            “It diminishes the prominence of white supremacy relative to other domestic violent extremism, and, without being inaccurate, puts it in a basket along with other violent activity that may be more palatable for the administration to acknowledge,” he said.

            The threat from white supremacists

            The earliest draft has the strongest language on the threat from white supremacists, in an introductory section labeled “Key Takeaways.”

            “Lone offenders and small cells of individuals motivated by a diverse array of social, ideological, and personal factors will pose the primary terrorist threat to the United States,” the draft reads. “Among these groups, we assess that white supremacist extremists – who increasingly are networking with likeminded persons abroad – will pose the most persistent and lethal threat.”

            The “Key Takeaways” section of the next two drafts calls “Domestic Violent Extremists” the “most persistent and lethal threat,” rather than specifically naming white supremacists.

            The document discusses white supremacists in greater detail when introducing the section titled “The Terrorist Threat to the Homeland.” Once again, language in the earliest draft is slightly stronger than the language in the subsequent drafts. The earliest draft introduces the threat from terrorism this way:

            “We judge that ideologically-motivated lone offenders and small groups will pose the greatest terrorist threat to the Homeland through 2021, with white supremacist extremists presenting the most lethal threat,” it reads.

            The next two drafts refer to “Domestic Violent Extremists” –– rather than “white supremacist extremists” –– as “the most persistent and lethal threat.” All three drafts contain the following sentence further down in the same section: “Among DVEs [Domestic Violent Extremists], we judge that white supremacist extremists (WSEs) will remain the most persistent and lethal threat in the Homeland through 2021.”

            The second two drafts, meanwhile, allude to violent agitators who have been present at nationwide protests against racism and police brutality.

            “Violent extremists almost certainly will continue their efforts to exploit public fears associated with COVID-19 and social grievances driving lawful protests to incite violence, intimidate targets, and promote their violent extremist ideologies,” the second and third drafts reviewed by POLITICO say. “Simple tactics – such as vehicle ramming, small arms, edged weapons, arson, and rudimentary improvised explosive devices – probably will be most common.”

            All three documents note that 2019 was the most deadly year for domestic violent extremists since the Oklahoma City Bombing in 1995.

            “Among DVE [domestic violent extremist] actors, WSEs [white supremacist extremists] conducted half of all lethal attacks (8 of 16), resulting in the majority of deaths (39 of 48),” the drafts read.

            The assessment comes as DHS has faced scrutiny for its response to increasingly violent domestic extremism during the Trump era. Top DHS officials have spent years grappling with how to do more to combat the threat, and long chafed at what they called disinterest from the White House. Two former top DHS political appointees told POLITICO last month that White House national security officials shied away from addressing the problem and didn’t want to refer to killings by right-wing extremists as domestic terrorism.

            But two former DHS chiefs both tried to make the burgeoning threat a priority for the department. As DHS secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen pushed then-national security adviser John Bolton to make domestic terrorism a focus of the administration’s counterterrorism strategy. And then-acting Sec. Kevin McAleenan also worked to highlight the threat, lobbying Congress to spend more on efforts to prevent radicalization.

            Current DHS leaders also have acknowledged the lethality of white supremacist extremists.

            “I have no qualms criticizing the white supremacy threat,” said Ken Cuccinelli, DHS’s second-in-command, in a recent interview on MSNBC. “Neither does the secretary, neither does the Department of Homeland Security. We recognize when those people act out violently, that they show the highest level of lethality, meaning if you compare the number of violent incidents to the numbers of deaths, the numbers of deaths relative to the incidents is very high compared to other types of threats."

            DHS leaders have been much more vocal of late in highlighting federal efforts to target Antifa. In a recent Fox News interview, host Tucker Carlson asked Acting DHS Sec. Chad Wolf why the Justice Department hadn’t arrested and charged the leaders of Antifa and Black Lives Matter. “This is something I’ve talked to the AG personally about, and I know that they are working on it,” he replied.

            And Attorney General Bill Barr has zeroed in on the group in the context of the federal law enforcement response to long-running vandalism, violence, and unrest in Portland, Oregon. After U.S. Marshals killed a murder suspect, Michael Reinoehl, who had described himself online as “One Percent ANTIFA,” Barr touted the operation as a success. The suspect tried to escape arrest and “produced a firearm,” according to a statement from Barr.

            “The tracking down of Reinoehl — a dangerous fugitive, admitted Antifa member, and suspected murderer — is a significant accomplishment in the ongoing effort to restore law and order to Portland and other cities,” Barr said.
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            Trump Derangement Syndrome....is it the white supremacists whipped up by Trump's baldfaced racist rhetoric and murdering "undesirables"....or is it Trump turning a blind eye to their murderous activities and his clear role in inciting them?



            My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.

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            • Fox News journalist Trump wants fired over reports on his alleged U.S. troops insults: 'My sources are unimpeachable'

              President Trump's tumultuous relationship with Fox News continued Friday after journalist Jennifer Griffin backed up previous reporting by The Atlantic that Trump had insulted U.S. military personnel who were killed or captured in action. The president, who has denied the reports, called for Griffin's firing on Friday night.

              Griffin, though, stood by her reporting on Saturday. She told Fox News' Neil Cavuto that her sources are "unimpeachable" and she feels very confident in her reporting.

              Griffin also addressed criticism from Trump and his supporters who have focused on the fact that the sources cited in The Atlantic, Fox News, and a host of other outlets were anonymous. She noted that Deep Throat, the source behind Watergate, was an unnamed source, indicating that it's long been a legitimate journalistic practice. Griffin did acknowledge she'd prefer to have her sources appear on camera, but said "you can see how people get destroyed when" they come forward with negative stories about Trump, which has made many people "reluctant" to do so.
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              Her sources are unimpeachable....although Trump sure as hell isn't lol.

              I wonder why she decided to throw her career at Fox News away though.
              My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.

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              • An example of “white privilege” run amuck. Youngster from an “elite” NYC family and Beto O’ fan.
                https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/wealth...n-blm-rampage/

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                • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
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                  Trump Derangement Syndrome....is it the white supremacists whipped up by Trump's baldfaced racist rhetoric and murdering "undesirables"....or is it Trump turning a blind eye to their murderous activities and his clear role in inciting them?


                  Always worth keeping an eye on potential TDS aswell as the threat of White supramacists. It doesn't immeidately jump out as a problem that has huge growth potential.

                  I do agree the president offers some reaffirmation but I don't think the extremists need much encouragment.

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                  • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                    Unsourced, rubbish. Not worthy of the bottom of a bird cage.
                    You might have missed this part: "Jefrey Goldberg, The Atlantic, Sept 4, 2020"
                    Trust me?
                    I'm an economist!

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                    • Atlantic is a conspiracy (far left) rag.
                      https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-di...o-hmmm/212233/

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                      • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                        An example of “white privilege” run amuck. Youngster from an “elite” NYC family and Beto O’ fan.
                        https://nypost.com/2020/09/05/wealth...n-blm-rampage/
                        You need to get a life. Imagine that a kid, from a well off family, not behaving like a kid from a well off family. Damn, what else is new in this world? Kids!?

                        Wait, isn't Trump a kid from a well off family?

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                        • TBM, hopefully her parents can help her out with her six figure restitution tab? They have the means and most likely aided in the programming of this bot.

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                          • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                            Atlantic is a conspiracy (far left) rag.
                            https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-di...o-hmmm/212233/
                            Ha ha ha !

                            This belongs on the joke page!
                            Trust me?
                            I'm an economist!

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                            • Originally posted by DOR View Post

                              Ha ha ha !

                              This belongs on the joke page!
                              Just as anything from the Atlantic. It is akin to the Dan Rather / Texas Air National Guard story!

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                              • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                                Atlantic is a conspiracy (far left) rag.
                                https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-di...o-hmmm/212233/
                                Ehhh...no. The "conspiracy rags" are the links you've been posting.

                                The Atlantic is a respected publication that deals in facts. Left-Center lean, yes. "Far Left Conspiracy rag"? No.

                                Not even because Donald Trump told you it was.

                                Analysis / Bias

                                Both The Atlantic Magazine and web publication produce quality journalism that utilizes moderately loaded wording that typically favors the left: This Is the Moment of Truth for Republicans. All news stories on The Atlantic are properly sourced to factual information and usually present a reasonable balance on issues. Editorially, The Atlantic takes a Left-Center position on most issues and has long endorsed Democratic candidates. In general, the news is reported factually with a moderate liberal editorial bias.

                                Failed Fact Checks
                                • None to date

                                Overall, we rate The Atlantic Left-Center Biased due to editorial positions and High for factual reporting based on excellent sourcing of information and a clean fact check record. (5/15/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 09/04/2020)
                                My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.

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