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  • Originally posted by DOR View Post

    Too many pesky facts?
    They probably replayed that clip of Trump begging women to like him. Instant trigger.
    “Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America.”
    ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    • 2020 polls: Biden leads Trump by 10 points – but polling finds warning signs for Democrat

      Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden maintains a double-digit national lead over Donald Trump, but a new poll conducted on behalf of The Independent shows some warning signs for the former vice president.

      Mr Biden has the support of 52 per cent of voters against the president’s 42 per cent, with Americans deeply concerned about Mr Trump’s handling of the coronavirus crisis, according to a survey conducted by JL Partners and The Independent.

      There are deep partisan divides among voters over the two candidates’ endorsement of a coronavirus vaccine. Mr Trump saying a potential vaccine is safe drives confidence in one lower than Mr Biden saying the same. The president received low marks on a number of other issues and has just two weeks to change enough voters’ minds if he wants to secure a second term.

      But the poll found ample reasons for Mr Biden and his campaign team to worry.

      Political prognosticators for months have said he needs large numbers of white college-educated and Black voters to cast ballots in his favor. But the survey of more than 1,000 people shows Mr Biden lagging behind the last Democratic presidential nominee with both groups. Pundits say, because this appears to be a turnout election, he needs big numbers of both in the right states to offset an expected big conservative turnout.

      Mr Biden leads among white people with a college degree by 10 percentage points, which would be worse than Hillary Clinton’s 2016 performance with that voting bloc.

      Among Black voters, Mr Biden has a 72 per cent lead – over 10 points worse than Ms Clinton.


      Mr Biden has struggled at times to reach out to the Black community.

      During a town hall last week, a participant referred to Mr Biden’s appearance on a radio show hosted by Charlamagne tha God, and asked: “Besides ‘you ain’t Black’, what do you have to say to young Black voters who see voting for you as further participation in a system that continually fails to protect them?”

      Mr Biden had told the show: “I tell you if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t Black.”

      The president has tried to lock up some support from Black voters by describing their collective economic situation as stronger since he took office – and by saying Democratic politicians have let them down for decades.

      “Obama is going to start campaigning. I said, is that good or bad? Because I think it’s a good thing because you know they did a lousy job and I wouldn’t be president of the United States if they did a good job,” Mr Trump said during a campaign rally late last week.

      “African-American income, think of this, grew nine times more than it did under Biden and Obama, right?” he added. “That’s a big number.”

      Mr Trump’s claims are in line with data compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. But that agency notes in a report that the unemployment rate for Black Americans is 6.1 per cent, while in 2019 it “was considerably higher than the overall rate of 3.7 per cent”.

      On the flip side, the survey shows Mr Biden doing better with Latino voters than Ms Clinton did four years ago. He has a 57 per cent lead, compared to her 38 per cent.

      But in another possible warning for team Biden, JL partners adds this caveat: “Note that the September poll showed Trump performing slightly better than in 2016.”


      There are indicators Mr Biden is underperforming compared to a Democratic nominee who lost the Electoral College race to Mr Trump, but James Johnson, a former Downing Street pollster and JL Partners founder, says time could be the former vice president’s biggest ally with just two weeks of campaigning left.

      “With two weeks to go, Donald Trump is running out of time. After all the trials and tribulations of the last few weeks, Biden continues to hold a clear 10-point lead with likely voters,” he said, “a margin which would take him into the White House even in the event of significant polling error.”

      JL Partners was commissioned to poll American voters on behalf of The Independent and spoke to 1,034 respondents across the US.
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      Yogi Berra Rule. First, Last and Always.
      “Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America.”
      ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

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      • Growing Asian American support for Trump



        Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Phillipino, Indian, even Chinese (those can distinguish anti-CCP policy from anti China) Americans think Trump has a clearer message on how to deal with China.

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        • I think Trump is net large negative for the USA so its very hard for me to see how he can be a net good against combatting China no matter what he says.

          There has been a move on both political sides that really seemed to take hold in the late obama years that China would need combating, That pendulum has thankfully swung. Even if its difficult to find a good strategy the political initiial conditions are in place.

          The best way for the USA to combat China is to have a thriving society and economy medium to long term and invest heavily at the federal level and be dynamic in private industry in disprutive techologies and industries. Preserve and Restore as much soft power internationally as possible. That would be the bread and butter.

          Obvoiusly a biden admin has to find the right carrot and stick approach but an out and out trade war could just backfire at this point. The biden admin should use the starting point the trump admin has created to their advantage however even if they would never have sought that position out themselves.

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          • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post



            The Daily Mail...oh man, bless your heart.
            The Daily Heil is very much in Surfy's ballpark. He did, however, miss the part where the FBI refused to confirm that it had examined the emails. Sort of makes any claim that it has established they they aren't part of some Russian disinformation campaign a bit hard to maintain.
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            • Republican Pollster: Trump's Is The 'The Worst Campaign I've Ever Seen'

              GOP pollster Frank Luntz said President Donald Trump and his team are emphasizing all the wrong issues ahead of the Nov. 3 election, calling the political campaign the worst he’s ever seen.

              According to The Hill, Luntz slammed Trump and his advisers at a briefing for the British strategic advising company Global Counsel on Tuesday.

              “I’ve never seen a campaign more miscalibrated than the Trump campaign. Frankly, his staff ought to be brought up on charges of political malpractice,” Luntz said, according to the outlet.

              “It is the worst campaign I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been watching them since 1980. They’re on the wrong issues. They’re on the wrong message. They’ve got their heads up their asses,” he added. “Your damn job is to get your candidate to talk about things that are relevant to the people you need to reach. And if you can’t do your damn job then get out.”


              Luntz said that “nobody cares about Hunter Biden,” the son of Democratic nominee Joe Biden and a favored target of right-wing media attacks. With weeks before Election Day, the Trump camp has seized aggressively on a dubious story published by the New York Post that alleges the Bidens were involved in high-level political corruption.

              That allegation is based on the contents of a laptop hard drive purportedly left at a repair shop in Delaware by Hunter Biden and obtained by Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. Other media outlets have been unable to verify critical elements of the story, and former intelligence officials have said it has the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign intended to influence the upcoming election. The FBI is said to be investigating if that’s the case.

              Luntz said the Trump campaign was focusing on this story when polls indicate Americans are more concerned about the COVID-19 pandemic and the economy.

              “Hunter Biden does not help put food on the table. Hunter Biden does not help anyone get a job. Hunter Biden does not provide health care or solve COVID. And Donald Trump spends all of his time focused on that and nobody cares,” Luntz said.

              The conservative pollster’s harsh words come in contrast to some of his previous comments about the president. Last year, he insisted during one of his regular appearances on Fox News that World Series fans who booed Trump be held accountable.

              “You may disagree with him. You may think that he’s not what you wanted, but you don’t boo him. You show respect to him,” Luntz said at the time.

              He’s offered more muted criticism of Trump in the past.
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              And the staggering part is that Trump could still win reelection. Which says far more about the American people and American "democracy" than it does about Trump and his pack of sycophantic morons.
              “Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America.”
              ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

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              • Breaking news: FBI press conference: Iran and Russia actively campaigning with hacked voter registration information to sway support away from President Trump. Basically, continuing the spread of TDS to sway support away from POTUS to political forces more favorable to Iran in particular.
                Gee, I wonder who would be the one to play nice with Iran?
                Last edited by surfgun; 22 Oct 20,, 01:16.

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                • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                  Breaking news: FBI press conference: Iran and Russia actively campaigning with hacked voter registration information to sway support away from President Trump. Basically, continuing the spread of TDS to sway support away from POTUS to political forces more favorable to Iran in particular.
                  Gee, I wonder who would be the one to play nice with Iran?
                  You. Are. Fucking. DERANGED.

                  FBI says Iran, Russia obtained voter registration info in election interference effort

                  WASHINGTON, D.C. — Russia and Iran have obtained U.S. voting registration information, the government’s national intelligence director said at a rare news conference Wednesday night.

                  John Ratcliffe, the intelligence director, and FBI Director Chris Wray say the U.S. will impose costs on any foreign countries interfering in the 2020 U.S. election.

                  Democratic voters in at least four battleground states including Florida and Pennsylvania received threatening emails, falsely purporting to be from the far-right group Proud Boys, that warned “we will come after you” if the recipients didn’t vote for President Donald Trump.

                  The voter-intimidation operation apparently used email addresses obtained from state voter registration lists, which include party affiliation and home addresses and can include email addresses and phone numbers. Those addresses were then used in an apparently widespread targeted spamming operation. The senders claimed they would know which candidate the recipient was voting for in the Nov. 3 election, for which early voting is ongoing.

                  Federal officials have long warned about the possibility of this type of operation, as such registration lists are not difficult to obtain.

                  “These emails are meant to intimidate and undermine American voters’ confidence in our elections,” Christopher Krebs, the top election security official at the Department of Homeland Security, tweeted Tuesday night after reports of the emails first surfaced.

                  He urged voters not to fall for “sensational and unverified claims,” reminding them that ballot secrecy is guaranteed by law in all states. “The last line of defense in election security is you – the American voter.”

                  A spokesperson at FBI headquarters did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

                  Asked about the emails during an online forum on Wednesday, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar said she lacked specific information. “I am aware that they were sent to voters in multiple swing states and we are working closely with the attorney general on these types of things and others,” she said.

                  Bennett Ragan, the campaign manager of Florida statehouse candidate Kayser Enneking, said he got two of the emails and knew about 10 other people in Gainesville who also got them. Bennett said the home address included in the personalized email he received was not current so he figures the data on him was acquired from the 2018 primary election voter roll.

                  The emails were sent by a group — its identity unknown — that put considerable time and effort into identifying vulnerable internet servers in several countries including Estonia, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates which they hijacked to send the emails, said security researcher John Scott-Railton, who examined dozens. Voters in Arizona and Alaska also received them, he said.

                  The Associated Press obtained the personalized email from two Florida voters in different parts of the state.

                  Scott-Railton, of the Citizen Lab online civil-rights project at the University of Toronto, said the Proud Boys email address that the spammers placed in the email’s sender field was “a flag of convenience.” The true addresses of origin — not readily visible but listed in email headers — were the hijacked servers. The emails reviewed by the AP both appeared to originate from a business in Estonia.

                  And while the operation was not terribly sophisticated, it may still have been backed by a nation-state. There are documented cases in which Russian agents have sent threatening mail, including to U.S. military spouses. Ukraine has also been hit by email hoaxes suspected to be the work of the Kremlin. Intelligence services like to use such techniques because they don’t bear the stamp of government, thus providing deniability.

                  “We’ve definitely seen state actors impersonate political figures and factions in the past. It wouldn’t be unheard of for them to do that in this case,” said John Hultquist, director of threat intelligence analysis at the cybersecurity firm FireEye. None of the Russian military hackers indicted by U.S. prosecutors for interfering in the 2016 presidential election on Trump’s behalf have been brought to justice.

                  “To me this is a canary case. And what it shows is that somebody with obvious malicious intent can get messages that leverage voter registration data in front of the eyeballs of a large number of Americans,” said Scott-Railton. The emails clearly penetrated the spam filters of email providers, he said, though some were likely blocked.

                  Microsoft and Google, major email providers with top-notch security researchers and tools, did not immediately comment on how many of the spoofed mails may have been sent and what intelligence they may have about the sender’s identity.

                  “The real question is just how well did this operation cover its tracks,” said Scott-Railton, who worries that the operation might have been a dry run. “Is someone testing a capability that they intend to use on a much larger scale in the future?”

                  He urged the U.S. government and its allies to be as transparent as possible about what they know about the operation as soon as possible to assure the public that it does not endanger election security.

                  In a post on the messaging service Telegram, an account that claims to represent the Seattle Proud Boys said the group had no involvement with the emails, calling them a “false flag operation.” President Trump has been criticized for refusing to condemn the far-right group.

                  Daniel Tokaji, dean of the University of Wisconsin Law School and an expert on voting rights, said he’s afraid we could see more of the type of voter suppression that the intimidation emails attempt — trying to scare people into not voting at all.

                  Jessica Levinson, a Loyola Law School professor, said the use of voter roll information could make the emails especially frightening. “It puts so much unfair stress and responsibility on the voters and nobody should have to fear for their safety when deciding who to vote for — but that’s exactly the point of voter suppression.”
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                  “Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America.”
                  ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                  • I covered information from the press conference.

                    Tops, the supplemental false flag information was not covered at the FBI press conference.

                    Perhaps, you can take comfort that your vote is aligned with Team Iran.
                    Last edited by surfgun; 22 Oct 20,, 01:39.

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                    • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                      I covered information from the press conference.

                      Tops, the supplemental false flag information was not covered at the FBI press conference.

                      Perhaps, you can take comfort that your vote is aligned with Team Iran.
                      No, you didn't cover the information from the press conference. You overlaid your TDS on top of it. Nowhere in any of that press conference did the FBI say what you said.

                      Perhaps, you can take comfort that your vote is aligned with a cult that follows a raving lunatic.
                      “Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America.”
                      ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                      • 'Panicked' Sen. Ron Johnson touts Trump to Wisconsin leaders

                        MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A “panicked” Sen. Ron Johnson urged members of the state chamber of commerce in battleground Wisconsin on Wednesday to vote for President Donald Trump, saying he has been praying for a victory and “the other side is not in love with this country.”

                        Johnson, a Republican in his second term, delivered a harsh assessment of what he thinks a win by Democrat Joe Biden would mean during a virtual meeting of Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce. Johnson decried “anarchists” and “rioters” who he said “are going to dictate to you what you think and how you have to act.”

                        “This is the greatest threat to our freedom in my lifetime, which is why I am more panicked today, why I’m not being particularly uplifting," Johnson said. "I’m telling you this so that you all use your positions, your position of influence every minute of your time between now and the election to get everybody to come out and vote.”

                        Johnson, a close ally of Trump, said he understands that people in Wisconsin “are not real nuts about a New York street fighter. We don’t like his tweets. We don’t like the way he behaves. But he actually believes in this country. He thinks it’s great. He knows it’s great. He wakes up every day trying to make it better, OK? The other side is not in love with this country."

                        Polls have shown Biden with a narrow lead in Wisconsin, a state Trump won by fewer than 23,000 votes in 2016.

                        Johnson, who is not on the ballot this year, said that if Democrats take majority control of the Senate, “They will never relinquish power. And that is not an overstatement.”

                        Phil Shulman, a spokesman for the Wisconsin Democratic Party, called Johnson the state's “biggest embarrassment.”

                        “Instead of using his perch in the Senate to help Wisconsinites get through the COVID-19 pandemic, Ron Johnson continues to spend his time promoting dangerous conspiracy theories and fear-mongering because he knows the Badger state will send Trump packing on November 3rd," Shulman said in an email.

                        Johnson, who tested positive for the coronavirus earlier this month but said he had no symptoms, told the state's business leaders on Wednesday that he thinks fears about getting sick or dying from COVID-19 are overblown, despite the more than 200,000 deaths in the U.S. from the disease.

                        “We have unfortunately been snookered into this mass hysteria that isn’t even close to the real risk,” Johnson said. “And so we’ve shut down our economy. We’ve had this economic devastation.”

                        In the face of surging COVID-19 cases in Wisconsin, Democratic Gov. Tony Evers has ordered new capacity limits on bars, restaurants and other businesses. He also imposed a statewide mask mandate.

                        Johnson said said he thinks wearing masks is a good idea, but he opposes mandates.

                        Wisconsin recorded its highest one-day total of new COVID-19 deaths on Wednesday, with 48, bringing the total to date to 1,681. Nearly 183,000 people in the state have tested positive, an increase of 4,205 from Tuesday. The seven-day average of new confirmed cases also reached a new high of 3,444, which is nearly double what it was a month ago and more than four times what it was two months ago.

                        The number of people hospitalized due to COVID-19 in Wisconsin also hit a record high on Tuesday, at 1,192, according to the Wisconsin Hospital Association.
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                        “Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America.”
                        ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                        • Wisconsin does get some strange Senators. I'm surprised Johnson left out leftists and, get ready,......commies.

                          The ghosts of Welch and Murrow would come in handy right now in reference to Trump.

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                          • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                            The FBI has verified possession of the Biden laptop and confirms it is not connected to any misinformation campaign.
                            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-laptops.html
                            I work as an IT guy, and I'd never look into someone's emails or open documents if I were dispatched to work on clients' computers, or if someone handed me a laptop and I took it home to work on.

                            I'm pretty sure this IT guy committed a felony by violating 18 U.S.C. § 1030, by accessing a computer in excess of the authorization he was given.

                            I suppose if I incidentally saw a jpeg file on the desktop with a thumbnail of child porn, I'd call law enforcement. This IT guy made an intentional effort, completely outside the scope of the job he was asked to do, to snoop around on the laptop, and violate someone's privacy.

                            Now if someone handed me a laptop for maintenance, I'd do several things. I'd take a can of compressed air, blow the dust out of the fan and vents, maybe upgrade RAM and OS if needed, make sure the drivers are up to date, run Windows Update, run the System File Checker, defragment the HDD if they have one, run CHKDSK, run the Disk Cleanup to free space, remove OS bloatware to make the OS run better, etc.

                            There's no point where viewing documents or emails would happen incidentally in the course of ordinary laptop maintenance. Again, I'm pretty sure sure that's a violation of federal law by exceeding the level of authorization consented to by the client.

                            What this guy did is akin to having a electrician to come to your home to do work, only for them to rifle through drawers and safes looking for copies of your letters, bills, financial documents, and so forth.

                            I'm curious if the FBI came to pick up this laptop to remove it from the possession of someone engaged in criminal activity (the IT guy), and not to investigate Hunter Biden, and whether it's the IT guy, not Hunter Biden, who is in legal jeopardy.
                            Last edited by Ironduke; 22 Oct 20,, 17:12.
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                            • Iron Duke,

                              Excellent points. I had totally overlooked that aspect of things.
                              “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                              Mark Twain

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                              • The service provider was never paid.
                                He was accessing abandoned property.
                                I am sure you are familiar with a mechanic’s lien.
                                It is the same concept if services are not paid for, then comes forfeiture, and thereafter the disposition of said property is up to the possessor.

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