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  • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
    In regards to the Hunter Biden laptop, in addition to the unscrupulous business and corruption implications, is that Special Agent Joshua Wilson is reportedly working on this case. An FBI Agent that is named Joshua Wilson is a specialist in child pornography.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/new-...source-2020-10
    You're still clinging to the myth that that shits real...

    You buy Alex Jones quack medicine products don't you.

    Is there anything you won't swallow?
    "Proud Boys - Stand back and stand by" ~ President Donald J Trump 30 September 2020

    "Standing down and standing by sir"~ Proud Boys 30 September 2020

    “Trump basically said to go fuck them up...This makes me so happy.” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys 30 September 2020

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    • Wall St. & Corporate media are are in bed with the Democrats. So this report stands out for pointing out that Main St. begs to differ.

      That is the polls do not reflect the mood on the street which is showing more support for Trump than polls indicate. Broader support means a positive for the electoral college which polls can't help with.

      Commentators I listen to predicting a surprise in California. It's going from blue to purple.

      Voter-registration patterns give Trump an edge invisible to polls: JPMorgan | Fox | Oct 15 2020

      The 2020 presidential race may be closer than the polls suggest, according to an analysis of voter registration trends by JPMorgan Chase.

      Changes in the number of voters registered to each of the major parties have proven to be a significant variable in election outcomes in the past, according to strategists at the New York-based bank, which analyzed trends in some of the battleground states that will be crucial to an electoral college victory.

      Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump by 9.2 points nationally, according to an average of polls compiled by RealClearPolitics, but his lead is at a tighter 4.9 points in hotly contested states.

      Four years ago, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also outstripped Trump in national polling and won the popular vote by nearly 3 million, only to lose the electoral college, where she took just 227 votes to Trump’s 304.

      This year’s campaign may be won or lost in some of the same battlegrounds as that race, which has made them focal points for politicians, pollsters and observers alike.

      In Pennsylvania, for example, a blue-leaning state that Trump won by 44,292 votes in 2016, the Republican Party has since picked up nearly 200,000 voters.

      JPMorgan says the gains suggest Trump could win the state by a margin of more than 240,000 in the upcoming election.

      Similar progress in battlegrounds Florida and North Carolina suggest Trump may take those states by a larger margin than in his first campaign as well.

      JPMorgan also believes a surge in the number of registered Republicans will tighten the race in New Mexico, but that the state will still go with Biden. On the flipside, a growing number of registered Democrats in Arizona will make the state close, but Trump should prevail.

      While voter registration is encouraging for Trump and the GOP, it is “only one variable in determining the election outcome,” the JPMorgan quant team led by Marko Kolanovic wrote, noting that the results should not be used to predict a state’s outcome.

      A number of other issues that don’t show up in the polls also offer encouraging signs for Trump, according to a Wells Fargo report released last month.

      The firm noted Trump outperformed the polls in all of the key battleground states in 2016 and also suggested his recent Supreme Court nomination, gun ownership trends and a stronger backing from African-American voters are all playing into Trump’s hands.

      Off-campus learning due to COVID-19 and a smaller independent vote also favor the president, the analysts said.

      48% total approve as of yesterday. There's still more than two weeks left.
      Last edited by Double Edge; 17 Oct 20,, 07:42.

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      • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
        Social media is engaging in censorship.
        https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/facebo...-from-posting/
        My local commentators were laughing seeing Hunter involved in deals with Ukraine & Russia but Trump got raked over the coals.

        People in the US are not going to take this media censorship lightly.

        If Trump wins there's going to be calls for regulation of social media by the FCC.

        It's ridiculous how posts, comments get removed and notifications for new posts deleted. It's been clear now for quite a while.

        Quite a few on the right in my country are up in arms about it.

        The tactics are obvious, control the narrative.

        Does not work in a free society and less so these days with even more forms of communication.
        Last edited by Double Edge; 17 Oct 20,, 07:27.

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        • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
          Commentators I listen to predicting a surprise in California. It's going from blue to purple.
          You truly have zero clue, and we are talking California, don't you. Serious, you have zero clue making most of which you post worthless.

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          • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
            Democratic strategist privately warns of surging voter registration among Trump-leaning demographics
            Poll after poll may give Democratic nominee Joe Biden the advantage next month, but Democrats still have some fears.

            While Democrats have made voter registration and flat-out voting a major message throughout their pushes for Biden, Republicans have still so far been winning the voter registration game. Democrats haven't publicly acknowledged their shortcomings, but at least one is privately sounding the alarm, Thomas B. Edsall relays in an opinion column for The New York Times.

            Both national and swing-state polls continue to give Biden an advantage over President Trump this November, with FiveThirtyEight's presidential tracker showing Biden with an 87 in 100 chance of winning. But voter registration tells a different story: Republicans have added hundreds of thousands more voters to their ranks across the swing states of Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.

            A Democratic strategist "who closely follows [voter registration] data on a day-to-day basis" revealed Republicans' advantage from a different angle in a privately circulated newsletter, Edsall reports. "Since last week, the share of white non-college over 30 registrations in the battleground states has increased by 10 points compared to September 2016, and the Democratic margin dropped 10 points to just 6 points," the strategist writes. "And there are serious signs of political engagement by white non-college voters who had not cast ballots in previous elections."

            Pew Research Center data also spells a bit of trouble for Biden among Hispanic Catholics and Black women, who seem to have slightly drifted to Trump.
            _________

            And that's exactly why I've adopted the Yogi Berra Rule for this election.

            No, not that one.
            OK so you got this one as well

            File under Unknown Unknowns
            Last edited by Double Edge; 17 Oct 20,, 07:44.

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            • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post

              You truly have zero clue, and we are talking California, don't you. Serious, you have zero clue making most of which you post worthless.
              Yeah yeah i'm going on who i follow and what they tell me. Not your rambunctious media which is who I followed for the last three elections and had zero clue.

              One more the Indian American preference for voting Dem is shifting. Not by a lot unfortunately but there is a definite shift.

              Anther gem i heard was Pelosi accusing Wolf Blitzer of CNN for supporting the govt when he questioned why she was holding up the stimulus.

              CNN supporting the govt. HAHA!
              Last edited by Double Edge; 17 Oct 20,, 07:44.

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              • Let's get into the manifesto

                Originally posted by DOR View Post

                US Democratic Party platform mentions of China:
                “He [Trump] launched a reckless trade war with China that cost more than 300,000 American jobs and sent farmers into bankruptcy, decimating the American heartland. ” p. 14
                “The Trump Administration has failed time after time to deliver for American workers on this crucial issue,siding with corporate interests over our workers and launching a trade war with China that they have no plan for winning—creating incredible hardship for American farmers, manufacturers,workers, and consumers in the process.” p. 21
                There will be fallout in a trade war. Collateral damage. The alternative is continue with the untenable status quo.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                Democrats will take aggressive action against China or any other country that tries to undercut American manufacturing by manipulating their currencies and maintaining a misaligned exchange rate with the dollar, dumping products like steel and aluminum in our markets, or providing unfair subsidies. Unlike President Trump, we will stand up to efforts from China and other state actors to steal America’s intellectual property and will demand China and other countries cease and desist from conducting cyber espionage against our companies.” p. 21
                Currency manipulation by China is a long standing grievance i've seen posts on this board going back over ten years. Nothing has been done to date which makes me wonder what aggressive action they have in mind to rectify it.

                Dumping & unfair subsidies can be addressed. Intellectual property and cyber espionage again ongoing and no remedy.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                “And we will take immediate action to repair the damage President Trump’s reckless policies have done to American farmers, by working with our allies to stand up to China and negotiate from the strongest possible position.” p. 21
                Working with coalitions is something the Dems are big on.

                Nothing here on addressing the trade deficit.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                “We will build on this foundation to negotiate arms control agreements that reflect the emergence of new players like China, capture new technologies, and move the world back from the nuclear precipice.” p. 82
                There is a lot of work to do in this space since START.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                “We reject the politicization of religious freedom in American foreign policy, and we condemn atrocities against religious minorities around the world—from ISIS’ genocide of Christians and Yezidis, to China’s mass internment of Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities, to Burma’s persecution of the Rohingya, to attacks on religious minorities in Northeast Syria.” p. 85
                Uyghurs won't be forgotten.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                Democrats believe that if the United States does not work with its allies and partners to shape the terms of global trade, China will shape them for us—and American working families and the middle class will pay the price. That’s why we will work with our allies to mobilize more than half the world’s economy to stand up to China and negotiate from the strongest possible position.” p. 86
                Noted but missing in details. How and what will they do.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                “Democrats’ approach to China will be guided by America’s national interests and the interests of our allies, and draw on the sources of American strength—the openness of our society, the dynamism of our economy, and the power of our alliances to shape and enforce international norms that reflect our values. Undermining those strengths will not make us “tough on China.” It would be a gift to the Chinese Communist Party.

                Democrats will be clear, strong, and consistent in pushing back where we have profound economic, security, and human rights concerns about the actions of China’s government.

                Democrats believe the China challenge is not primarily a military one, but we will deter and respond to aggression. We will underscore our global commitment to freedom of navigation and resist the Chinese military’s intimidation in the South China Sea. Democrats are committed to the Taiwan Relations Act and will continue to support a peaceful resolution of cross-strait issues consistent with the wishes and best interests of the people of Taiwan.
                No change in stance from current policy here.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                Rather than stand with President Xi Jinping as he cracks down on Hong Kong’s autonomy, Democrats will stand for the democratic rights of its citizens. We will fully enforce the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, including by sanctioning officials, financial institutions, companies, and individuals responsible for undercutting Hong Kong’s autonomy. And we will bring the world together to condemn the internment of more than one million Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities in concentration camps in China, using the tools provided by the Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act.
                Trump has not stood with Xi as he cracked down on HK.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                Democrats will pursue this strategy without resorting to self-defeating, unilateral tariff wars or falling into the trap of a new Cold War. Those mistakes would only serve to exaggerate China’s weight, over-militarize our policy, and hurt American workers. America must approach our relationship with China with confidence—the confidence to lead international efforts to push back on malign behavior while also pursuing cooperation on issues of mutual interest like climate change and nonproliferation and ensuring that the U.S.-China rivalry does not put global stability at risk.
                Tariff war isn't self defeating if its also affecting China. That the deficit is as large means China hurts more which is the point.

                Is the present approach over militarised ? If you relax here China will take advantage.

                By calling China out as Trump has China's weight isn't being exaggerated. He shows clarity of purpose by doing so.

                It's the media that contributes to that perception. They make China larger than life.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                Rather than denigrate our partners and encourage tensions between our allies, the United States will work to strengthen ties with and between our key allies in the region, including Japan, South Korea, and Australia, and we will work to ensure that our alliances with Thailand and the Philippines live up to the values that our peoples share.” p. 89
                Don't see any mentions of quad but the approach of supporting allies is compatible. Trump's approach has led allies to seek regional partners. Europe, ME & Far east. Countries getting together in a way that was not possible before with the US leading. Because every one took the US for granted.

                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                “We believe Europe is our natural partner in managing areas of competition with China and will work to establish common priorities, strategies, and tools. And just as we came together to standup to communism and respond to global terrorism, we will come together with Europe to confront the existential challenge of climate change.” p. 91
                The EU is important in countering China. After Covid they are less enamoured with China.


                Originally posted by DOR View Post
                Now that we have the actual facts in front of us, tell me which parts of the official Democratic Party platform you don't like.
                1) I don't see anything about holding China accountable for the spread of this Wuhan virus. There are costs to that. Aussies found out. More need to follow.

                Ignore it and we will be dealing with another in the future. So China will get a pass here because they talk about rejoining the WHO an institution that China owns. What good was the WHO to the US and the world at large in this pandemic ?

                2) Their attraction with Europe when the centre of gravity has moved towards Asia. Because Biden's advisers are Euro centric. No mention of Indo pacific.

                In the 30 years since the fall of the Berlin wall, the United States and Europe have strived to build a transatlantic community of free and democratic societies that works together to bring peace, prosperity, and dignity to all our citizens. The Trump Administration has put that dream in grave danger. Donald Trump either does not know or has forgotten who America’s friends are. He sees Europe as a foe—not a friend—of the United States. He sees Vladimir Putin’s Russia as a strategic partner—not a strategic rival. He sees anti-European Union, far-right nationalists as political allies—not destructive antagonists.
                He doesn't see Europe as a foe just not a place that requires as much attention. Russia isn't a strategic rival, Russia might like to think so but the real rival is China. By adding Russia in here it takes away what can be done on China. So the Democrat approach to China will be diluted.

                Trump could not offer Vlad much. Congess tied his hands and the sanctions are still in place with new ones like CAATSA added.

                Squeezing the Russians further will only make them work with China when the goal should be to split them.

                Democrats, on the other hand, believe a united, democratic, and prosperous Europe is vital to the United States. We believe the transatlantic alliance is the ballast of our global influence. Ours is the largest economic relationship in the world, making up nearly half of global GDP. NATO is the world’s most formidable military alliance. And together, we stand as champions of universal rights and freedoms around the world. Transatlantic cooperation is crucial to addressing almost every global challenge we face.
                NATO is fine. More military alliances are needed. No mention of Indo pacific in the manifesto.

                Democrats will join our European partners in standing up to a revanchist Russia. We will not allow Moscow to interfere in our democracies or chip away at our resolve.
                Euros handled Russian meddling in their recent elections pretty well. See Austria, Germany, France, Netherlands & UK.



                This excellent speech Pompeo gave in Jul should be the blueprint.

                It works when more countries join in that vision.

                Pompeo says we need to induce change. That is a proactive approach. Though the Dems give a nod to the we must change the CCP or else i still get the impression they will be reactive.
                Last edited by Double Edge; 17 Oct 20,, 12:09.

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                • DE,

                  “Wall St. & Corporate media are are in bed with the Democrats.”

                  Whoa.
                  That's really breaking news.
                  After decades of solidly backing whichever GOPer stood for whatever office, Wall St. & Corporate media are suddenly – when did this happen? – in bed with Democrats.

                  All I can conclude is either (a) The Trumpet is so bad that even his most reliable supporters are jumping ship; (b) you haven't been paying attention to American politics for a very long time; or (c) all of the above.

                  C it is.

                  = = =

                  Now, as for that “the polls do not reflect the mood on the street ” nonsense … which poll told you that? Was it the 48% approve one?
                  Sorry, you don't get to pick one poll and say it's disproves all the others.

                  = = =

                  “Yeah yeah i'm going on who i follow and what they tell me.”
                  Is that the inside scoop from Donald Duck, or Mickey Mouse?

                  Pro Tip: Check source.

                  = = =

                  On to China!

                  The status quo is untenable.
                  Says who? And, on what basis?

                  Currency manipulation by China is indeed a long-standing grievance, but only among protectionists. The Real Effective Exchange Rate – that's the one that matters – fell by a massive 3.9% from peak to trough … this year. Amid the worst economic climate in living history. As demand for exports collapsed.

                  3.9%. Not the 10.9% of 2009, but just Three point Nine percent.

                  Yeah, that's manipulation alright. Manipulating it to keep it from falling further.
                  See: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RBCNBIS

                  On the bilateral trade deficit, go read what I've written over, and over, and over again. At least make an effort to understand the subject before posting such embarrassing and juvenile mistakes.

                  Holding China accountable for COVID-19? Point to any single example of any country in the world being held “accountable” – whatever that means in international law – for any disease, ever in human history.

                  Trust me?
                  I'm an economist!

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                  • Originally posted by DOR View Post
                    DE,

                    “Wall St. & Corporate media are are in bed with the Democrats.”

                    Whoa.
                    That's really breaking news.
                    After decades of solidly backing whichever GOPer stood for whatever office, Wall St. & Corporate media are suddenly – when did this happen? – in bed with Democrats.

                    All I can conclude is either (a) The Trumpet is so bad that even his most reliable supporters are jumping ship; (b) you haven't been paying attention to American politics for a very long time; or (c) all of the above.

                    C it is.

                    = = =

                    Now, as for that “the polls do not reflect the mood on the street ” nonsense … which poll told you that? Was it the 48% approve one?
                    Sorry, you don't get to pick one poll and say it's disproves all the others.

                    = = =

                    “Yeah yeah i'm going on who i follow and what they tell me.”
                    Is that the inside scoop from Donald Duck, or Mickey Mouse?

                    Pro Tip: Check source.

                    = = =

                    On to China!

                    The status quo is untenable.
                    Says who? And, on what basis?

                    Currency manipulation by China is indeed a long-standing grievance, but only among protectionists. The Real Effective Exchange Rate – that's the one that matters – fell by a massive 3.9% from peak to trough … this year. Amid the worst economic climate in living history. As demand for exports collapsed.

                    3.9%. Not the 10.9% of 2009, but just Three point Nine percent.

                    Yeah, that's manipulation alright. Manipulating it to keep it from falling further.
                    See: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RBCNBIS

                    On the bilateral trade deficit, go read what I've written over, and over, and over again. At least make an effort to understand the subject before posting such embarrassing and juvenile mistakes.

                    Holding China accountable for COVID-19? Point to any single example of any country in the world being held “accountable” – whatever that means in international law – for any disease, ever in human history.
                    Gee, where would such an idea that Dems and press where one and the same!?
                    https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-si...dentified-dems

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                    • Congress demands answers of the FBI, of when they took possession of the Biden hard drive.
                      https://www.theblaze.com/news/gop-le...y-nypost-story

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                      • DE,

                        California...purple...ahahahahahhahaha...

                        the people you listen to are on something very, very strong.
                        There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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                        • Person who said that comes from CA

                          Did anyone expect PA to go for Trump in the last election ?

                          Why then are you precluding any surprises this time around.

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                          • Originally posted by DOR View Post
                            DE,

                            “Wall St. & Corporate media are are in bed with the Democrats.”

                            Whoa.
                            That's really breaking news.
                            After decades of solidly backing whichever GOPer stood for whatever office, Wall St. & Corporate media are suddenly – when did this happen? – in bed with Democrats.

                            All I can conclude is either (a) The Trumpet is so bad that even his most reliable supporters are jumping ship; (b) you haven't been paying attention to American politics for a very long time; or (c) all of the above.

                            C it is.
                            If I don't play to your narrative it means i don't know anything.

                            hah, i'm countering it. Something i don't see enough of in this American section.

                            Too opposition heavy.

                            Wall st. likes profits. So does corporate media. China gives them those profits. Don't offend China. Let's add Hollywood to that list as well shall we.

                            Dems will give them those profits and go soft on China. This is the rhetoric i hear.

                            The commercial interests drive the conversation as they have the money.

                            Well, the political and security sides have become much more prominent these days in many countries.

                            There are still people who think it will all blow away. Things will be back to how they were.

                            I don't think so. if this pandemic claims more lives and cannot be managed.

                            Originally posted by DOR View Post
                            Now, as for that “the polls do not reflect the mood on the street ” nonsense … which poll told you that? Was it the 48% approve one?
                            Sorry, you don't get to pick one poll and say it's disproves all the others.
                            A general impression by observers on the street. Not people sitting in fancy offices in Manhattan typing out crap.

                            And no, polls can't tell you this. No poll can. Why would you even question this given what happened last time around.

                            The expectation is Trump wins at the booth. The traditional ones you held for 200 years where people show up and vote.

                            The x factor is the mail in ones. We will have NYC primary redux for 46 states.

                            Who knows when that will end.

                            But if there is still no result by Jan 20, Speaker Pelosi becomes the acting president.

                            Originally posted by DOR View Post
                            “Yeah yeah i'm going on who i follow and what they tell me.”
                            Is that the inside scoop from Donald Duck, or Mickey Mouse?

                            Pro Tip: Check source.
                            Those that endorse Trump.

                            They give me brief summaries of what's going on there with relevant links. Here is one example.

                            He was a banker. He does daily chats with people i follow. The twitter page is what he speaks about for the day.

                            Killer line. Would you want $1.7 tr in tax cuts or $4 tr in additional taxes.

                            90% of US enterprise is private. Pretty clear what they prefer.

                            Whether Main St. agrees is the question.

                            Originally posted by DOR View Post

                            On to China!

                            The status quo is untenable.
                            Says who? And, on what basis?
                            Deficit. But you refuse to acknowledge it.

                            Originally posted by DOR View Post
                            Currency manipulation by China is indeed a long-standing grievance, but only among protectionists. The Real Effective Exchange Rate – that's the one that matters – fell by a massive 3.9% from peak to trough … this year. Amid the worst economic climate in living history. As demand for exports collapsed.

                            3.9%. Not the 10.9% of 2009, but just Three point Nine percent.

                            Yeah, that's manipulation alright. Manipulating it to keep it from falling further.
                            See: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RBCNBIS
                            Are the democrats protectionist ?

                            Ten years ago the people complaining about it were the opposition, ie Republicans.

                            So its a biparisan issue now.

                            Originally posted by DOR View Post
                            Holding China accountable for COVID-19? Point to any single example of any country in the world being held “accountable” – whatever that means in international law – for any disease, ever in human history.

                            Start with finding out what went wrong this time around so it does not repeat again. Those inspectors have yet to visit Wuhan i hear.

                            The next bit is simple. Democracies stop doing business with China.

                            There is no more rise and their future is fixed.

                            People are not going to forget who was responsible for their losses. Personal and financial.
                            Last edited by Double Edge; 18 Oct 20,, 09:10.

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                            • This is the October surprise. Will it go through. If it doesn't who gets the blame.


                              McConnell sets Wednesday vote for $500B COVID relief bill | FOX | Oct 18 2020
                              Last edited by Double Edge; 18 Oct 20,, 09:07.

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                              • This will not pass unnoticed

                                Click image for larger version  Name:	nypost locked.jpg Views:	0 Size:	103.3 KB ID:	1566982

                                The other day i posted about an Indian news channel that got a tweet moderated because they interviewed Li meng Yan.

                                Apparently the flunkies they outsourced the fact checking to in CA disagreed. Does not mean they can silence her like this.

                                That is what it amounts to.

                                Now this goes further. Locked the NYPost's account !!
                                Last edited by Double Edge; 18 Oct 20,, 09:24.

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