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  • Originally posted by InExile View Post

    I remember when Bernie Sanders was first elected Senator he was considered something of a novelty, although this year he came pretty close to being a viable candidate for the Presidential nominee. There are Democrats, even prominent politicians like AOC who openly wear the label of 'Democratic Socialist'. Additionally the Woke wing of the part is louder, more intolerant when it comes to opposing viewpoints and better when it comes to silencing voices through intimidation on social media. Even senior leaders were slow to criticize the violence and riots over the summer.

    However, I agree that the far left of the Democrats does not dominate the party, especially the legislative agenda the way the right wing of the Republican party does under Trump. I wouldn't agree with pointing to the radicalism of some on the left to justify voting for Trump as a lesser evil.
    Bernie is from Vermont. The rest of us New Englanders always kind of considered it th ePoeple's Republic of Vermont. Vermont has been contrarian going back to the War of 1812. plus Bernie ONLY became a member of the Party in 2016 when he ran for President. He NEVER raised money/campaigned for his peers and that was remembered. To say the DNC had the "fix in" for HRC over Bernie is like saying the Americans considered the British to be better allies than the the Italians in 1944.

    But in your statement you are missing something...the mainstream of the Democratic Party stared down the left of the Party and got them to back off quite a bit. Because the heart of the Democratic Party is Union and Black...more conservative than than the left.

    When the GOP goes against the right wing of their party they get primaried and therefore drift hard right themselves.
    “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
    Mark Twain

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    • GOP Sen. Marsha Blackburn reveals she doesn’t know what an "Amendment" is — on Constitution Day

      It's Constitution Day in America, which is generally the day in which politicians try to prove their immense knowledge and appreciation for the U.S. founding documents. Occasionally some of them misquote it, instead citing the Declaration of Independence, but Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) took another route.

      "We will never rewrite the Constitution of the United States," she proclaimed proudly on Twitter.

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      It was 1992 the last time the Constitution was rewritten, when Blackburn was serving as the chair of the Williamson County Republican Party. She also lost her first campaign for Congress that year.

      As one reporter pointed out, Blackburn is currently sponsoring three Constitutional Amendments to rewrite the document

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      And the hits just keep on coming.
      "Proud Boys - Stand back and stand by" ~ President Donald J Trump 30 September 2020

      "Standing down and standing by sir"~ Proud Boys 30 September 2020

      “Trump basically said to go fuck them up...This makes me so happy.” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys 30 September 2020

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      • Originally posted by DOR View Post
        So, where did you read that “discharged” means zero effects?
        ”Discharged” means “better off at home,” or perhaps, “we need the bed for someone else.”
        Here is a story I was told about, by a photography blogger who I know, concerning someone he worked with. Roughly around the late 40s or early 50s and never went into the hospital but is still dealing with all the after effects of the virus that we never hear about but which I know exists. As she says the numbers are in the thousands.

        Long Haulers
        https://indymaven.com/articles/coron...ring-symptoms/

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        • Trump: 'We're Counting' On Federal Courts To Declare Election Night Winner

          President Donald Trump said he is “counting on the federal court system” to ensure that the winner of the November presidential election is called just hours after the polls close, despite current rules across the country allowing ballots to be counted several days to weeks after the election.

          “Now we’re counting on the federal court system to make it so that we can actually have an evening where we know who wins. Not where the votes are going to be counted a week later or two weeks later,” he said at a rally in North Carolina Saturday.

          On the topic of the judicial system, Trump also shared his plans to nominate a new Supreme Court associate justice “next week” to fill Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s seat following her death on Friday.

          There are fewer than 45 days until the Nov. 3 election, and it has taken about 68 days historically for a Supreme Court nominee to win confirmation in a vote on the Senate floor.

          Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.) called out Trump’s comments on Twitter, arguing that the president wants to “use the federal courts to cheat in November by denying Americans’ lawfully cast mail-in ballots.”

          “This is an open admission that Trump hopes to use the Supreme Court to steal the election,” he added.

          Trump’s comments came after several states extended the deadline to count mailed absentee ballots so long as they are postmarked either on or before Nov. 3.

          A Michigan state judge ruled Friday that absentee ballots postmarked before Election Day can be counted up to 14 days after the election.

          Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court similarly ruled Thursday that mailed ballots postmarked by 8 p.m. Election Day can be counted up to three days after the election.

          California has one of the longest windows for ballot counting. Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom in June signed a law to allow ballots postmarked by Election Day to be counted up to 17 days after the election. The extension was enacted after a record 72% of California voters cast a ballot by mail in the state’s March primary, according to state data.

          Many of the state extensions apply only to the 2020 election. Legislators acted out of concern that changes at the U.S. Postal Service could affect delivery times. They also expected that more people will vote by mail this year because they worry about the safety of in-person voting during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, and that could overwhelm the Postal Service.

          Trump has long claimed, without supporting evidence, that mail-in voting will lead to widespread voter fraud.

          The Trump campaign filed lawsuits against vote-by-mail deadline changes in Pennsylvania, Nevada, New Jersey and Montana.

          The campaign also recently filed a motion against members of the Navajo Nation in Arizona after they sued the state to extend the state’s mail-in-ballot deadline. A federal judge last week rejected the Trump campaign’s request to join Arizona in its arguments against the tribal members’ lawsuit.
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          "Proud Boys - Stand back and stand by" ~ President Donald J Trump 30 September 2020

          "Standing down and standing by sir"~ Proud Boys 30 September 2020

          “Trump basically said to go fuck them up...This makes me so happy.” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys 30 September 2020

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          • Some judges apparently have an issue with the term Election Day...

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            • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
              Some judges apparently have an issue with the term Election Day...
              That's pretty rich considering your orange god has been fucking over the US Post Office left and right with the sole and obvious intention of fucking over the election.

              Some people apparently have an issue with a pandemic affecting more than just supplies of toilet paper.
              "Proud Boys - Stand back and stand by" ~ President Donald J Trump 30 September 2020

              "Standing down and standing by sir"~ Proud Boys 30 September 2020

              “Trump basically said to go fuck them up...This makes me so happy.” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys 30 September 2020

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              • The pandemic and Amazon has been increasing the workload in numbers of parcels being handled by the USPS.

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                • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                  The pandemic and Amazon has been increasing the workload in numbers of parcels being handled by the USPS.
                  Riiiight. So Louis DeJoy's sabotaging of the USPS is....no big deal. Gimme a fuckin' break dude. I'm not one of your fellow Kool-Aid drinkers. Sell that shit somewhere else.
                  "Proud Boys - Stand back and stand by" ~ President Donald J Trump 30 September 2020

                  "Standing down and standing by sir"~ Proud Boys 30 September 2020

                  “Trump basically said to go fuck them up...This makes me so happy.” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys 30 September 2020

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                  • In the words of the famous Jacksonville DJ, ‘the Greaseman,’ “Do not call me Dude.”
                    Last edited by surfgun; 21 Sep 20,, 20:11.

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                    • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                      In the words of the famous Jacksonville DJ, ‘the Greaseman,’ “Do not call me Dude.”
                      Wouldn't know who that is, I'm a somewhat recent transplant and I haven't listened to the radio in decades.
                      "Proud Boys - Stand back and stand by" ~ President Donald J Trump 30 September 2020

                      "Standing down and standing by sir"~ Proud Boys 30 September 2020

                      “Trump basically said to go fuck them up...This makes me so happy.” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys 30 September 2020

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                      • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

                        Wouldn't know who that is, I'm a somewhat recent transplant and I haven't listened to the radio in decades.
                        The Greaseman was a misogynistic, racist POS shock jock who got ran off the radio for making racist comments on air.

                        He was big in the DC market as well.
                        “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                        Mark Twain

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                        • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

                          The Greaseman was a misogynistic, racist POS shock jock who got ran off the radio for making racist comments on air.

                          He was big in the DC market as well.
                          And the other shoe landed with a giant thud. Ton of stuff just started making sense lol
                          "Proud Boys - Stand back and stand by" ~ President Donald J Trump 30 September 2020

                          "Standing down and standing by sir"~ Proud Boys 30 September 2020

                          “Trump basically said to go fuck them up...This makes me so happy.” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys 30 September 2020

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                          • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                            The pandemic and Amazon has been increasing the workload in numbers of parcels being handled by the USPS.
                            Meanwhile, back in reality:

                            Another Day, Another Adverse Ruling for the Trump Administration

                            Donald Trump and Postmaster General Louis DeJoy suffered another setback on Monday. Judge Stanley Bastian (Ninth Circuit; Eastern Washington) poked DeJoy in the left eye last week, and yesterday, Judge Victor Marrero (Second Circuit; Southern New York) poked him in the right eye.

                            Like Bastian, Marrero pulled no punches in his ruling, declaring that "While the court has no doubts that the Postal Service's workforce comprises hardworking and dedicated public servants, multiple managerial failures have undermined the postal employees' ability to fulfill their vital mission." He imposed several specific orders, including treating all ballots as first-class mail (something that Bastian also ordered), and paying for necessary overtime in the weeks surrounding the election. Marrero also said he wants a detailed plan about how the USPS will guarantee that election-related mail is delivered on time, and if he doesn't get that plan by Friday, he'll impose his own plan.

                            Perhaps we are being naive, but it certainly appears that Trump and DeJoy have lost the battle and the war here. DeJoy moved so early and with such ham-handed aggression that the USPS is now being watched by every Democratic officeholder in the nation, an army of Democratic lawyers, a handful of cranky federal judges, and the actual employees of the USPS. Given the clumsy way the Postmaster General tried to circumvent campaign finance laws (something that may well land him in the hoosegow eventually), we just don't see that he has the wherewithal to maneuver and further with that much scrutiny of his every move.
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                            "Proud Boys - Stand back and stand by" ~ President Donald J Trump 30 September 2020

                            "Standing down and standing by sir"~ Proud Boys 30 September 2020

                            “Trump basically said to go fuck them up...This makes me so happy.” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys 30 September 2020

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                            • Ohio Republicans say they’re seeing suburban support for Trump in sharp decline statewide

                              COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Peggy Lehner, a Republican state senator in Ohio, doesn’t sugarcoat what she has seen happen to support for President Donald Trump in her suburban Dayton district.

                              “It hasn’t ebbed. It’s crashed,” said Lehner, who is not seeking re-election in the district of working-class and white-collar communities the president won comfortably four years ago. “He is really doing poorly among independents.”

                              Trump’s chances for a second term rest heavily on being able to maintain the margins he won by in 2016, particularly in suburban areas. He plans to campaign outside Toledo on Monday, as liberal Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death stokes questions of whether the sudden court vacancy would energize more suburban voters who support abortion rights or social conservatives in small-town and rural areas who oppose them.

                              Republican lawmakers and strategists in Ohio say they are seeing research that shows a near-uniform drop in support from his 2016 totals across every suburban region of the state.

                              Ohio judge says Republican secretary of state acted arbitrarily and unreasonably in limiting ballot drop boxes to one per county

                              They say that Trump, who won Ohio by eight percentage points in 2016, maintains a yawning advantage in more rural areas and small towns. Still, Republicans are concerned that if he is losing badly in suburban areas in Ohio, it is a signal that Trump’s hold on other states in the industrial heartland that delivered him the presidency may be in peril.

                              “The million-dollar question becomes, how does that translate in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania?” said Corry Bliss, a Republican strategist who managed Ohio Sen. Rob Portman’s 2016 reelection campaign. “It translates into probably not a very good night.”

                              Ohio has long been a bellwether. No Republican has won the White House without carrying the state since the advent of the modern two-party system, and no Democrat has since 1960.

                              Trump is faring worse than four years ago in communities in essentially all suburban areas around Ohio, from its major cities to its several midsize metro areas, more than a half-dozen Republican operatives tracking races across Ohio say.

                              Trump has slipped in suburbs to the east and west of Cleveland, where he narrowly edged Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in 2016, they say. In the blue-collar suburbs of Youngstown, where Trump won by double digits, the same appears to be true.
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                              "Proud Boys - Stand back and stand by" ~ President Donald J Trump 30 September 2020

                              "Standing down and standing by sir"~ Proud Boys 30 September 2020

                              “Trump basically said to go fuck them up...This makes me so happy.” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys 30 September 2020

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                              • Originally posted by Bloomberg_Quicktake

                                Former EPA Leaders Endorse Biden, Denounce Trump’s Impact on Environment

                                Published on Sep 22, 2020

                                The leaders who ran the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for more than a quarter century, serving under Republican and Democratic presidents, agree that President Donald Trump has set the agency against science. At an event Monday that was part of Climate Week New York, four prior EPA administrators endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, denounced Trump’s approach to the agency, and said the upcoming election is critical for the environment. “The present situation is a total aberration,” said William K. Reilly, the EPA administrator under President George H. W. Bush. “The first thing Trump did was fire all the environmental scientists at the agency.” To withstand court challenges, regulations enforced by the agency need to be based on empirical evidence. The past administrators said the agency’s ability to fulfill that function had been compromised because impartial scientist had been fired or forced out, in some cases replaced by former employees from industries regulated by the EPA. “The claims are false,” said EPA spokesperson James Hewitt. “We have improved the role of science throughout the agency's operations.” Carol Browner, who ran the EPA under President Bill Clinton and served under President Barack Obama, was likewise blunt in her assessment of Trump’s EPA. “This administration is simply gutting the Clean Water Act, letting polluters dump whatever they want into the waters.” She scoffed Trump’s claims about his environmental record, such as a move to ban drilling off the Florida coast. “The closest he has come to the Everglades is to golf.” The other two former EPA heads to speak out were Christine Todd Whitman, who served under George W. Bush, and Gina McCarthy who served under Obama. The Trump administration has been aggressive in pursuing rollbacks of regulations disliked by industries, particularly for fossil fuel. The EPA has been steadily trimming air and water regulations and undermining Obama-era regulations on emissions from autos and power plants. Just last month the Trump administration cut a part of a rule requiring oil and gas companies to detect and repair methane leaks, another source of planet-warming emissions. “President Trump’s record on the environment proves you can have energy independence and a clean, healthy environment without destroying the economy, over-regulating, or burdening American taxpayers,” said Samantha Zager, a Trump campaign spokesperson. Just before the event, current EPA administrator Andrew Wheeler declared the success of the EPA under Trump. “We have done more in the first four years of the Trump administration to improve the environment than probably any administration except perhaps during the very first years of EPA,” Wheeler said in a speech at the American Enterprise Institute. That comparison to the EPA’s leader at its founding under President Richard Nixon drew disbelief. “How dare he compare himself to [William] Ruckelshaus,” said Browner. She argued that the EPA’s original legacy of protecting human health has been been met with indifference by Wheeler. The deepest damage done to the agency, the former administrators agreed, had been dismantling its core scientific capacity. Rebuilding scientific staff at the EPA will take years. “We didn’t just lose four year of the ability of career people to do their jobs,” said Browner, “but those career people are being robbed of resources and support they need to do their work. We need to overcome what we have lost in these four year.”

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