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  • Originally posted by DOR View Post
    Anyone else notice the sea of face masks behind The Trumpet in his rally today?
    Did someone get a copy of The Darwin Awards 2020 short list?
    2% of Americans got COVID-19. 0.6% Americans died from COVID-19.

    Doesn't seem to be a viable Darwin Awards lisitng.
    Chimo

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    • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
      The Constitution means what it says. Not that it is evolving nonsense!
      250 years of jurisprudence disagrees with you.
      “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
      Mark Twain

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      • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
        The politicians in the two states that took Bloomberg money and ignored all testimony offered prior to any legislative votes.
        I know as I witnessed the travesty live in Annapolis. Facts be damned we are voting the way Bloomberg wants, to get his cash.
        Seriously you need to brush up on some history:https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Nati...le_Association

        Comparing the little Soda Tyrant to an organization steeped in tradition is absurd.
        1. Your know, and stick with me on this, MAYBE those politicians who accepted those campaign contributions ran on those as part of their platforms and that is how they voted once they got elected/reelected. Just like the Republicans who ran against those views and lost the election.

        2. I am well aware of the NRA and what is does. I joined in the 1970s when I was dating the daughter of one of the vice presidents. Was a member until LaPierre and crew wrecked it.
        “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
        Mark Twain

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        • I agree Wayne needs to go! I knew something smelled of an unhosed (Dirty) work boat when Oliver North left.
          I remain a life member, but I love mailing in those self addressed postage paid envelopes back to them telling them the need to send Wayne packing! Just like in politics, some get way to comfortable in their positions.
          Last edited by surfgun; 14 Sep 20,, 16:54.

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          • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
            2% of Americans got COVID-19. 0.6% Americans died from COVID-19.

            Doesn't seem to be a viable Darwin Awards lisitng.
            Sir,
            The Darwin Awad is for people who improve the gene pool by removing themselves from it in the stupidest, most easily avoidable way. Volume has nothing to do with it, just a lack of common sense.

            For example, building and dying in a jet-powered car, when the awardee hasn’t a clue what happens to auto brakes when they are applied strongly at hundreds of miles an hour, or what happens when said automobile is applied to an immovable object (cliff face) when the brakes melt away.
            Trust me?
            I'm an economist!

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            • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
              The Constitution means what it says. Not that it is evolving nonsense!
              "I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy, as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."

              - Thomas Jefferson, 1816.

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              • Originally posted by Firestorm View Post

                - Thomas Jefferson, 1816.
                Wtf would he know about....oh, right.
                My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.

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                • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

                  Wtf would he know about....oh, right.
                  He's part of the DeEp StATe! #draintheswamp

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                  • If the Constitution is to be changed one needs a Constitutional Convention with ratification by the States! Not willy nilly shenanigans.

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                    • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                      If the Constitution is to be changed one needs a Constitutional Convention with ratification by the States! Not willy nilly shenanigans.
                      We can start with that phony Emoluments Clause. "Emoluments" You ever hear of the word? Nobody ever heard of it before.
                      My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.

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                      • Originally posted by DOR View Post
                        The Darwin Awad is for people who improve the gene pool by removing themselves from it in the stupidest, most easily avoidable way.
                        I know.

                        Originally posted by DOR View Post
                        Volume has nothing to do with it, just a lack of common sense.
                        That's just it. Common sense says most Americans ain't at risk of dying from COVID-19.

                        Originally posted by DOR View Post
                        For example, building and dying in a jet-powered car, when the awardee hasn’t a clue what happens to auto brakes when they are applied strongly at hundreds of miles an hour, or what happens when said automobile is applied to an immovable object (cliff face) when the brakes melt away.
                        Urban myth

                        https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/carmageddon/

                        Chimo

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                        • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                          If the Constitution is to be changed one needs a Constitutional Convention with ratification by the States! Not willy nilly shenanigans.
                          Per Article V it can also be done by the Congress

                          But you are overlooking Judicial Review which was established in the Marshall court in the decisions of Hylton v. US in 1796 and in Marbury v. Madison in 1803. John Marshall, a peer of The Founders, established the primacy of the Courts in review and interpretation of laws and the Constitution in those decisions. At the Constitutional Convention 40 out of 44 delegates voted in favor of judicial review and saw it as part of the separation of powers. There are no recorded instances within the state conventions opposed to judicial review.

                          So the concept of only a Constitutional Convention impacting the interpretation of the Constitution is belied by what the founders did and how they acted.
                          “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                          Mark Twain

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                          • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                            That's just it. Common sense says most Americans ain't at risk of dying from COVID-19.
                            But that doesn't negate that a majority of the population can't be a carrier of the virus. Public Health is designed to impact this population to protect the most vulnerable.

                            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                            Mark Twain

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                            • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post
                              Public Health is designed to impact this population to protect the most vulnerable.
                              This is where common sense is lacking. Quarrantine the most vulnerable and we would not be in this economic mess. If you're at risk of dying from COVID, you're under house arrest at the very least. Not everyone else. We knew from Chinese numbers that 98% of those infected would be just fine. World wide numbers today says the same thing.

                              Everyone was trying to follow the leader, China, when they quarrantine Wuhan.

                              I don't blame our actions. It is a learning experience in what not to do. But for Pete sakes, let's learn the lesson.
                              Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 15 Sep 20,, 17:48.
                              Chimo

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                              • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                                This is where common sense is lacking. Quarrantine the most vulnerable and we would not be in this economic mess. If you're at risk of dying from COVID, you're under house arrest at the very least. Not everyone else. We knew from Chinese numbers that 98% of those infected would be just fine. World wide numbers today says the same thing.

                                Everyone was trying to follow the leader, China, when they quarrantine Wuhan.

                                I don't blame our actions. It is a learning experience in what not to do. But for Pete sakes, let's learn the lesson.
                                Colonel, this is NOT what we did in 1918.

                                And keep in mind there are large swaths of this country where there was no impact at first but were later impacted because who didn't practice proper public health measure and attended superspreader events (Spring Break, Sturgis, Tulsa rally, weddings, funerals, church gatherings, etc) unmasked are bringing it back to their local populations.

                                And not everyone catching and dying are in at risk groups. And death is only a partial outcome. Numerous American college athletes who came down with COVID recovered but have enlarged hearts....their careers are over.Same with several MLB players. What pro-sports have done well? MLS, NBA & NHL who have all been in a bubble and get tested regularly.

                                The other thing we are not doing is we are not testing anywhere near enough. And while capacity has been ramped up the issue is because of the screwed up American healthcare system and insurance because the issue has become....who pays for the test.

                                https://www.npr.org/2020/09/14/91279...irus-test-mess
                                “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                                Mark Twain

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