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  • astralis
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    DE,

    Very apparent in Pompeo's trip to the region, hit all the right notes, said the right things.

    But will any of those partners dare to name China ? yeah, that right there is the issue.

    EVERY ONE OF THOSE PARTNERS AGREES but won't stick their necks out.

    Trade will be the same thing, they're worried about their bottom line. Germany is a good example.

    The net result is the US under Biden will tone down its efforts here.

    That's the escape hatch China is betting on.
    so, what you're saying is that Trump's foreign policy isn't succeeding in getting allies to stick their necks out against China.

    but...Biden's victory is the "escape hatch" that China is betting on?

    if Trump's policies aren't succeeding, what need does China have for an escape hatch?

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  • Double Edge
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    As for getting the black vote, at least among the educated, this will help


    Trump Signs Bill Restoring Funding for Black Colleges | AP | Dec 19 2019

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  • Double Edge
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    The odds of an incumbent getting a second term are better than even if one looks back over the last thirty years

    Why that is the case will make for an interesting debate. One reason i heard was corruption.

    I surmise its to do with continuity. Markets like predictability.

    David Bossie: Trump will be reelected — here is his path to an Electoral College victory | Fox (op-ed) | Oct 31 2020

    President Trump has a clear path to the 270 electoral votes he needs for reelection — and the map is not dissimilar to his historic 306-vote Electoral College landslide in 2016.

    I believe the president will carry Texas, Indiana and all the other reliably red states for his first 163 electoral votes. In 2016, his road to victory ran through Florida, Ohio, North Carolina and Iowa. In 2020, this path remains intact, with the addition of Georgia and Arizona.

    With repeat victories in these states, plus the electoral votes in Maine and Nebraska’s 2nd Congressional Districts, that brings President Trump’s tally to 260 electoral votes — just 10 votes shy of the magic number of 270.

    Trump shocked the world in 2016 by becoming the first Republican presidential nominee to win Pennsylvania and Michigan since 1988. Even more incredibly, he was the first GOP presidential candidate to win Wisconsin since President Ronald Reagan’s reelection in 1984.

    Pennsylvania has 20 electoral votes, Michigan has 16 and Wisconsin has 10. In this scenario, with the president sitting at 260 electoral votes, he needs to win just one of these three states to prevail.

    The president is also on offense and actively campaigning in Minnesota, Nevada and New Hampshire — states he narrowly lost to Hillary Clinton in 2016. To put a fine point on it, he only lost these three states by approximately 74,000 votes combined.

    If 2020 has taught us anything, it’s that anything can happen. So it’s wise to leave it all on the field, just as President Trump is doing with his ferocious campaign schedule down the stretch.

    It’s no secret that in campaigns, intensity matters. It was on full display four years ago when Trump defeated Clinton and it’s evident once again less than a week before Election Day.

    President Trump’s army of forgotten voters is growing in size and enthusiasm — just look at his epic rallies. While Democrats are running a fear campaign to scare people into voting against President Trump, voters going to the polls to cast a ballot for Joe Biden are few and far between.

    The bottom line is that Joe “Dark Winter” Biden is an empty vessel who leaves Americans totally uninspired.

    Two factors scaring Democrats are President Trump’s substantial inroads among voters in the African American and Hispanic communities. Even subtle shifts to the Trump column could be enough to reelect the president.

    As President Trump crisscrosses the country fighting for four more years, he’s making a strong case about his tireless efforts to enact policies that greatly help African American and Hispanic families.

    The president’s pro-growth economic policies created record-low unemployment rates among these groups. His current drive to open our economy again is creating the jobs that enable African American and Hispanic families to pay their mortgages and feed their children.

    African American and Hispanic voters know full well that if Biden gets elected president, their jobs and way of life will be in jeopardy. President Trump is right when he says the cure for COVID-19 — like Biden’s support for destroying our economy with another shutdown — can’t be worse than the disease itself.

    Four years ago this month we saw headlines in The Washington Post like “Donald Trump’s chances of winning are approaching zero.” This year, we’re seeing similar headlines, like this one in The New York Times: “A Biden Landslide? Some Democrats Can’t Help Whispering.”

    Democrats just can’t help themselves. As Yogi Berra used to say, it’s déjà vu all over again. Polls predicting Hillary Clinton as the decisive winner in 2016 were wrong and we’re seeing that scenario play out again.

    Poll results that fail to capture the hidden Trump voter come out regularly. With a radical movement on the left actively trying to “cancel” anyone or anything seen as being affiliated with President Trump, letting a pollster know your true voting intentions is a tough decision.

    One survey found that 62 percent of people said they were afraid to voice their political views over fear of retribution. Take this into consideration and it’s easy to conclude that the polls weighing the 2020 election are likely dead wrong again

    Americans are rightly concerned about the tactics of the left. Who wants to wake up to an angry mob in their front yard? This is why the secret ballot is so critically important. Americans can vote their conscience without the fear of extremists looking over their shoulders.

    That’s exactly what President Trump is banking on. He’s kept his promises on jobs, border security, appointing conservative judges, rebuilding the military, destroying ISIS, bipartisan criminal justice reform, and energy independence. Now he’s asking Americans to reward him with their vote.

    Biden and his allies in the left-wing media, on the other hand, are shamefully blaming COVID-19-related deaths on President Trump. This is bunk; reasonable Americans understand the coronavirus was thrust upon us from China without warning and our president acted fast and rose to the occasion.

    Politicizing COVID-19 deaths is going to backfire on Biden and the Democrats. Sadly, this is all the left has to offer the American people — more finger-pointing, more pessimism and more empty promises.

    President Trump has a clear path to 270 electoral votes and he’s busy earning each and every one of them. Joe Biden is an arrogant career politician who thinks the presidency is owed to him. Sleepy Joe is in for a rude awakening next week.
    afraid to voice their political views over fear of retribution ? remind me again which country are we talking about here...
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  • Double Edge
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    Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

    I can almost taste the common sense, the intelligent approach to complex issues, the inclusion of friends and allies to present a common front instead of arbitrarily slapping them across the face.

    Could this be sanity returning to the White House?

    Also, I'm sure you meant to say "DEFER" but of course nothing in your link says any such thing.

    Better luck next time.
    The problem with getting that common front is it waters down the position. That's why he's going it alone.

    Very apparent in Pompeo's trip to the region, hit all the right notes, said the right things.

    But will any of those partners dare to name China ? yeah, that right there is the issue.

    EVERY ONE OF THOSE PARTNERS AGREES but won't stick their necks out.

    Trade will be the same thing, they're worried about their bottom line. Germany is a good example.

    The net result is the US under Biden will tone down its efforts here.

    That's the escape hatch China is betting on.
    Last edited by Double Edge; 01 Nov 20,, 13:29.

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  • TopHatter
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    Originally posted by surfgun View Post
    The American Flag dips for no foreign colors. Full Stop!
    There's a world of difference between dipping the flag for foreign colors and making plans with foreign allies. But that sort of gaping difference is completely lost on you. You're too drunk off that Trumpian Kool-Aid to realize the value of things like "Friends". Your whole world is centered on Number One (yourself). Anything beyond that, you couldn't give a single fuck about.

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  • surfgun
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    The American Flag dips for no foreign colors. Full Stop!

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  • TopHatter
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    Originally posted by surfgun View Post
    Tops, enjoy licking that European leather.
    Nice rebuttal...In other words, things like common sense, the intelligent approach to complex issues, the inclusion of friends and allies and sanity are just words in the dictionary to you aren't they.

    I'd rather be "licking that European leather" as you so baselessly claim, than being a window-licking Trump follower.

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  • surfgun
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    Tops, enjoy licking that European leather.

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  • TopHatter
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    Originally posted by surfgun View Post
    Biden will differ to other nations in matters of American trade/tariffs.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN27E07R
    That deserves to be posted in full

    Exclusive: Biden, if elected, would consult allies on future of U.S. tariffs on China - advisers

    WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - Democrat Joe Biden would immediately consult with America’s main allies before deciding on the future of U.S. tariffs on China, seeking “collective leverage” to strengthen his hand against Beijing if he is elected president, Biden top advisers said on Wednesday.

    In an interview with Reuters six days before the presidential election, the two Biden aides said the starting point would be to not repeat the mistakes of President Donald Trump when he slapped tariffs on European and Canadian goods as part of his “America First” agenda, antagonizing key U.S. partners.

    “The failure of the Trump administration has been to go it alone. And that has given China an escape hatch,”
    said Jeffrey Prescott, a former senior foreign policy adviser in the Obama administration.

    The advisers declined to say whether the Democratic presidential candidate, if elected, would be inclined toward lifting the massive tariffs on China that Trump has used to fuel a trade war between the world’s two biggest economies.

    “He’s not going to lock into any premature position before we see exactly what we’re inheriting,” Prescott said. “But consulting with allies is going to be a central part of that.”

    The bitter trade dispute is just one of the main sources of tensions between Washington and Beijing, whose relations have sunk to the lowest point in decades over a range of issues, including the coronavirus, Hong Kong, intellectual property theft, human rights, Taiwan and the South China Sea.

    China has been a central foreign policy focus in the 2020 presidential campaign. In political rallies, Trump has often claimed that Biden would take a softer approach to China.

    Biden has struck back, saying he would be tougher on China than Trump and not afraid to use trade barriers - but only when they make sense. For instance, he told the United Steelworkers union in May that steel and aluminum tariffs would stay until a global solution to limit excess production - largely centered in China - can be negotiated.

    Trump and his aides argue, without evidence, that China itself is paying the U.S. tariffs. Trump says a Phase 1 trade deal signed with China in January was a big step forward, but experts say Beijing’s total purchases of U.S. goods will fall far short of the targets set for the first year of the accord.

    The series of staggered tariffs the Trump administration imposed on $370 billion worth of Chinese goods in 2018 and 2019 have cost U.S. importers more than $60 billion, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection data, and have been blamed for eroding U.S. manufacturing competitiveness.

    But due to the political sensitivities of easing U.S. pressure on China, questions remain about the prospect that Biden will act swiftly to decrease tariffs if he is elected.

    Biden’s advisers made clear that he would first want to confer with U.S. allies instead of taking unilateral action on trade action the way Trump did.

    “You can start by not slapping tariffs on the Europeans and the Canadians and instead work with them on the trade issue,” said Brian McKeon, a former White House and Pentagon adviser in the Obama administration.

    Immediate consultation would be needed “to identify areas where we can bring collective leverage on China,” Prescott said. “But they’ve been alienated, they’ve been insulted by President Trump, and that’s made our hand with China even weaker than it should be.”
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    I can almost taste the common sense, the intelligent approach to complex issues, the inclusion of friends and allies to present a common front instead of arbitrarily slapping them across the face.

    Could this be sanity returning to the White House?

    Also, I'm sure you meant to say "DEFER" but of course nothing in your link says any such thing.

    Better luck next time.

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  • surfgun
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    Biden will differ to other nations in matters of American trade/tariffs.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN27E07R

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  • TopHatter
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    Originally posted by astralis View Post

    mate, if "coming out against Ronald Reagan" is your biggest concern, you'd be on the Never Trump bus too.

    Trump has effectively taken over the GOP from the Reaganite right; most of the never Trumpers, such as George Will, William Kristol, Evan McMullin, are correspondingly all hardcore Reaganites.
    Donald Trump is a traitor to everything that Ronald Reagan held dear. Reagan would've vomited if he'd been able to see what Trump has done to the Republican Party.

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  • astralis
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    Mike is not exactly hot shit either. Especially, when he came out against Ronald Reagan.
    mate, if "coming out against Ronald Reagan" is your biggest concern, you'd be on the Never Trump bus too.

    Trump has effectively taken over the GOP from the Reaganite right; most of the never Trumpers, such as George Will, William Kristol, Evan McMullin, are correspondingly all hardcore Reaganites.

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  • surfgun
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    Christopher Steele.
    Mike is not exactly hot shit either. Especially, when he came out against Ronald Reagan.
    Last edited by surfgun; 31 Oct 20,, 21:52.

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  • astralis
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    wait, Michael Steele...RNC Chairman from 2009-2011???

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  • surfgun
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    Moscow/Russia is a Democrat talking point.
    Christopher Steele, the Democrat foreign operative is the one with the Moscow connections.
    Last edited by surfgun; 31 Oct 20,, 21:50.

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