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  • Biden has all the potential for being a disaster for the Dems in November. He seems to have a lot of support in the Southern states.....states which will vote overwhelmingly Republican in the election even if Jesus Christ himself was the Dem candidate (bearded middle-eastern socialist? Hell No!). So Biden won't get a lot of EC votes from those states despite his popularity amongst the Democrats there.

    As if that wasn't enough, he is clearly going senile. He is going to be fumbling for words and names in the debates with Trump and Trump is going to love it.

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    • firestorm,

      He seems to have a lot of support in the Southern states.....states which will vote overwhelmingly Republican in the election even if Jesus Christ himself was the Dem candidate (bearded middle-eastern socialist? Hell No!). So Biden won't get a lot of EC votes from those states despite his popularity amongst the Democrats there.
      this is the primary, and thus it's an apples-to-oranges comparison. candidates will target different states with different messages in the general.

      As if that wasn't enough, he is clearly going senile. He is going to be fumbling for words and names in the debates with Trump and Trump is going to love it.
      i made a snarky remark re: Biden's age earlier, but him going "senile" is the least of it. yeah, sure, he says stupid, tone-deaf stuff with weird old references-- but then again, so does the other guy.

      it's Biden's worldview that I have an issue with -- in which the GOP is merely misled and bamboozled by Trump, and once their good Senate friend Biden is in power, all of that will go away. he should KNOW better than that by now, given his previous position.
      There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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      • Originally posted by astralis View Post
        i made a snarky remark re: Biden's age earlier, but him going "senile" is the least of it. yeah, sure, he says stupid, tone-deaf stuff with weird old references-- but then again, so does the other guy.
        I wasn't referring to his outdated references and words. I don't have any issues with that.

        I was referring to him forgetting names and words and appearing confused when he is speaking or not making much sense. People blame it on his stutter but it seems to be more than that. Points to a deterioration in his mental capacity IMHO. If this was happening near the end of his presidency that would be alright but not in the middle of his first presidential campaign - both in terms of his ability to win the debates and the election as well as his ability to perform his presidential duties for the next 5-10 years if he wins.

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        • Trumpkin of course does none of what you describe right my covfefe?

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          • Originally posted by snapper View Post
            Trumpkin of course does none of what you describe right my covfefe?
            That's a tweet, though, not actual spoken words. I've watched the majority of the debates, and in the majority of those, Biden sounds like a fool. He sometimes performs well, sometimes doesn't. This election may be close enough for that to matter.
            "The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of speeches and majority decisions but by iron and blood"-Otto Von Bismarck

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            • Originally posted by GVChamp View Post
              That's a tweet, though, not actual spoken words. I've watched the majority of the debates, and in the majority of those, Biden sounds like a fool. He sometimes performs well, sometimes doesn't. This election may be close enough for that to matter.
              Eh....we can bury ourselves in Trump's actual spoken words that utterly batshit stupid, to say nothing of mispronounced.
              Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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              • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                Eh....we can bury ourselves in Trump's actual spoken words that utterly batshit stupid, to say nothing of mispronounced.
                Trump and Biden are not speaking to the same audience. The divisions run deep. Trump seems to get a pass from most within his audience, likewise senile Uncle Joe from his audience. I suspect that in the swing states it is less about swinging votes from one side to the other than it is about getting one side to turn out in larger numbers to cast their vote. Young voters seem to turn out for demonstrations, but not so much to cast votes, so the few that will turn out to vote for Bernie might stay home rather than vote for senile Uncle Joe.
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                • Lizzy is off to the pow-wow with her high cheek bones!

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                  • Originally posted by JRT View Post
                    Trump and Biden are not speaking to the same audience.
                    Well, yes, agreed, but the point was Twitter vs Speaking In Public

                    Originally posted by JRT View Post
                    I suspect that in the swing states it is less about swinging votes from one side to the other than it is about getting one side to turn out in larger numbers to cast their vote.
                    No question about it, agree 100 percent.
                    Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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                    • Originally posted by JRT View Post
                      Trump and Biden are not speaking to the same audience. The divisions run deep. Trump seems to get a pass from most within his audience, likewise senile Uncle Joe from his audience. I suspect that in the swing states it is less about swinging votes from one side to the other than it is about getting one side to turn out in larger numbers to cast their vote. Young voters seem to turn out for demonstrations, but not so much to cast votes, so the few that will turn out to vote for Bernie might stay home rather than vote for senile Uncle Joe.
                      And Trumpkin is a coherent speaker?

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                      • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                        Lizzy is off to the pow-wow with her high cheek bones!
                        Come on friend - be civil. I have high cheek bones because I am a Slav but you are trolling - not making any point against someone who will not reply here. Give it up.

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                        • Just echoing the poor woman.
                          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uegqTj3SHO4

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                          • Could you please explain why she is "poor" for having this memory of her Grandmother or any other reason? It seems a condescending label to pin on Presidential candidate. Perhaps your cheekbones are finer? What do you mean?

                            I understand that she is out of the race now anyway. I would never have voted for her even had I could have.

                            I am glad that the US people have turned their back on the 'revolution' that the 'Democratic Socialist' Sanders espouses seemingly in the Democratic votes. The word 'democratic' and 'socialism' do not actually intermingle in any meaningful way. In socialism it is Government owned, bureaucratic and "do as you're told" everything eventually - though I am not saying Sanders wants all 'means of production to be in common [Government] ownership'.

                            I think Biden is inestimably the better choice and always have. He has loads of experience, is probably more of a hawk on foreign policy than Obama was (which matters to us here in Ukraine) and will re-affirm the European alliance as well possibly sorting out the problems in immigration policy and what is called 'Obamacare' system. Moreover he will not abuse the Highest Office of State for his own personal profit nor ask any foreign state to help him. I believe he has the strong personal morality that precludes a person abusing their position that is needed to hold any job carrying authority and trust him. I think he in sincere and will not do wrong and that right now is what the US needs; a return to sanity and normality.

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                            • By no means is she actually poor as she is indeed financially rich.
                              She is apparently poor in having original recipes.
                              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...echniques.html

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                              • snapper,

                                I understand that she is out of the race now anyway. I would never have voted for her even had I could have.
                                really, if your opposition is Trump? I heartily detest Sanders and his ilk, but I'd vote for him if he turns out to be the nominee.

                                is probably more of a hawk on foreign policy than Obama was
                                not sure about that. he tried to get Obama to call off the OBL raid, and he pushed hard for Obama to withdraw from Afghanistan.

                                that said, I'll vote for him over Trump...or Sanders.
                                There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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