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  • Corey Lewandowski said Trump knew the election was over but wanted to 'create enough doubt' so he could 'say he didn't lose and that it was stolen': book

    Corey Lewandowski, Donald Trump's 2016 campaign manager, said Trump knew the 2020 election was over when the major news networks projected his loss but wanted to sow doubt about the results so he could say "he didn't lose," a new book by the ABC News correspondent Jonathan Karl says.

    Lewandowski, who was also an aide to Trump in 2020, made the comments during a call with Karl days after Joe Biden was declared the winner of the election last November. Trump had not conceded, and he continued to baselessly claim that the election was stolen from him. Karl said he'd asked Lewandowski for his thoughts on how the situation would play out.

    "He knows it is over," Lewandowski told Karl about Trump. "He just wants to create enough doubt about Biden's victory so that when he leaves he can say he didn't lose and that it was stolen from him."


    The conversation is reported in Karl's book "Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show," which comes out on Tuesday. Insider obtained an early copy of the book.

    In the months leading up to Election Day, Trump repeatedly claimed without evidence that voting by mail would lead to fraud. Election officials and experts rejected the statements as misinformation, and millions of Americans securely cast their ballots by mail.

    After Trump lost, he elevated conspiracy theories that the election had been "stolen" from him and "rigged" against him through widespread voter fraud. Election officials said that the claims were false and that there was no evidence of fraud. Trump's own Department of Homeland Security said the election "was the most secure in American history."

    Still, Trump spread falsehoods about the election. A Gallup poll conducted last November found that only 17% of Republicans said they thought reports about Biden's victory were accurate.

    In a farewell speech a day before he left the White House, Trump acknowledged that a new administration would be inaugurated, but he did not formally concede or admit he lost the election.

    More than a year after the election, Trump continues to cling to this narrative. Several polls this year suggested that many Republicans were still convinced the election was stolen from him.

    In an NPR poll in November, most Republicans indicated they didn't trust elections in the country.

    Lewandowski did not immediately return Insider's request for comment.
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    Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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    • Woodward, Karl, Bender....I sure wish these reporters would have understood their civic responsibility and had said something in real time and not withhold information in order to sell books at a later date.
      “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
      Mark Twain

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      • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post
        Woodward, Karl, Bender....I sure wish these reporters would have understood their civic responsibility and had said something in real time and not withhold information in order to sell books at a later date.
        Woodward mentioned why he didn't release it sooner. And, frankly, would it have made a difference? You've got dickless slime like Barrasso who refuse to condemn Trump for saying that the "HANG MIKE PENCE" chant was "common sense". This has been the case since Trump was elected. You've got the vast majority of conservatives and right-wingers that are convinced that the election was stolen and that the attempted insurrection on January 6th was no big deal and are enraged that it's even being investigated.

        Conservatives would gladly let Donald Trump shit in their mouths if it meant that some "librul" might smell their breath afterwards. No such thing as rock bottom with this cult.
        Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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        • Oh look law breaking regarding election integrity....

          source familiar with the lawsuit provided access to the tapes, noting the then-unnamed whistleblower had come forward with video evidence purporting to show Delaware County, Pennsylvania election officials destroying records from the November 2020 general election. The videos were also filed with the complaint and a bevy of exhibits the plaintiffs maintain support the allegations contained in their 91-page complaint.

          https://thefederalist.com/2021/11/19...ying-evidence/

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          • Certainly needs to be investigated. But as of now it is a civil suit and no one has been charged yet.

            Need to wait to see what the DA's investigation finds out.


            FYI going back to 2000 Delaware County voted for the Democratic candidate for President, Senator & Governor in all election except for 2016 when Trump beat Clinton by less than 26,000 votes (out of 500,000+ voted.

            Biden won 2:1.


            https://delawarevalleyjournal.com/ne...ction-results/

            New Lawsuit, Videos Allege Delco Election Officials Destroyed Election Results

            Posted to Politics November 23, 2021 by Linda Stein

            Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer announced on social media an investigation into videos that appear to show county election officials destroying ballots and machinery in the 2020 general election. In one video, an official says he’ll make a “campfire” out of the election materials.

            The videos, recorded by a whistleblower, are exhibits from a lawsuit against the county and various officials filed Nov. 18 by Delaware County residents Ruth Moton, Leah Hoopes and Gregory Stenstrom, and Moton’s campaign. Moton, a Republican, had run unsuccessfully for the state House in the 159th District, which includes Chester County, in the November 2020 election.

            A spokeswoman for the county did not comment on the lawsuit, which was originally filed pro se. However, Moton told the Delaware Valley Journal the plaintiffs are represented by a lawyer.

            Delaware County Executive Director Howard Lazarus said in a statement, “It is the duty of the District Attorney to pursue all credible complaints, and we will support the DA’s efforts to pursue this matter. We are confident that in the end the allegations will be proven to be fabricated and wholly without merit, and that our systems are worthy of your trust.”


            The 91-page lawsuit alleges county election officials violated numerous facets of election law, including destroying results from the Nov. 3, 2020 election once a May 21 Right to Know request was filed.

            The suit said that “the defendants fraudulently and intentionally deleted, changed, adulterated, manipulated and/or obscured the information, data, and materials produced in response to the RTK request in order to hide their fraud and election code violations because they knew that they could not reconcile the previously fraudulently reported November 3, 2020 election results with the actual responsive information that they had in their possession and which they were required to preserve and produce in response to the Right to Know request.”

            “Plaintiffs know this to be the case and can document this and demonstrate this by showing, among other things, that November 3, 2020 election, data materials, and equipment was [sic] destroyed including but not limited to V-Drives, Return Sheets, machine tapes/proof sheets/result tapes, Mail-In Ballots, Ballots Destroyed, voting machines, hard drives, paper documentation, Blue Crest (scanner) data, correspondence concerning the November 3, 2020 election,” the suit states.

            On November 18, 2020 county officials created a spreadsheet reflecting problems at the election polls for the November 3, 2020, election. The problems detailed by the Delaware County spreadsheet included the absence of secrecy envelopes used for the provisional votes, people who were not registered from different precincts signed the back of the book, voters with “inactive” status voted provisionally, voters voted provisionally but also signed the book, official ballots were accidentally in the provisional envelopes instead of provisional ballots, affidavits were not filled out and only secrecy envelopes sent and provisional voters who also signed the poll book, the suit said.

            The suit alleges “James Allen (director of elections) conspired with James Savage (the warehouse supervisor) to ‘get rid’ of the ‘pads and second scanners’ from the November 3, 2020 election. Savage encouraged a private conversation to continue the conversation of the removal of the pads and scanners due to other Delaware County employees and (employee) Regina Miller who were present and witnessed James Savage state that he was aware that the plan of destruction of November 3, 2020, election ‘was a felony.’ ”

            In May 2021, Allen (who was hired in March 2021) allegedly developed a plan to “hide and destroy November 3, 2020, election evidence and conspired with James Savage to create ‘new’ results to provide as a response to the May 21, 2021 Right to Know Request,” the suit alleged. “Specifically, James Allen and James Savage conspired to create new results with ‘Clean V-Dives’ by removing the election scanners from the locked cages at the Voting Machine Warehouse to have data to consistently match the November 3, 2020 data,” the suit claimed.
            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
            Mark Twain

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            • Originally posted by zraver View Post
              Oh look law breaking regarding election integrity....

              source familiar with the lawsuit provided access to the tapes, noting the then-unnamed whistleblower had come forward with video evidence purporting to show Delaware County, Pennsylvania election officials destroying records from the November 2020 general election. The videos were also filed with the complaint and a bevy of exhibits the plaintiffs maintain support the allegations contained in their 91-page complaint.

              https://thefederalist.com/2021/11/19...ying-evidence/
              Check source.
              Trust me?
              I'm an economist!

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              • Margo Cleveland. What your point? The information about the lawsuits and videos is real even if it will never be covered by MSNBC.

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                • Originally posted by zraver View Post
                  Margo Cleveland. What your point? The information about the lawsuits and videos is real even if it will never be covered by MSNBC.
                  From Wikipedia

                  Falsehoods during the 2020 election


                  While ballots were being counted in the 2020 election, The Federalist made false claims of large-scale fraud.[8][9] One of The Federalist's tweets said, "Yes, Democrats Are Trying To Steal The Election In Michigan, Wisconsin, And Pennsylvania."[8] The website falsely insinuated that fraud was occurring in Michigan.[47] Other news outlets quickly showed that the purported fraud was a clerical error that was quickly corrected; The Federalist did not delete the story, which had gone viral.[48] Co-founder Sean Davis shared the misleading story, leading Twitter to tag his post as containing disputed information.[49]
                  Trust me?
                  I'm an economist!

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                  • The story now is about a current lawsuit and videos.

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                    • Originally posted by zraver View Post
                      The story now is about a current lawsuit and videos.
                      Oh.
                      So, do you have any legit sources?
                      Trust me?
                      I'm an economist!

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                      • I would think that if they had evidence of a crime, they would contact Local Law Enforcement, the FBI, the State Elections Commission.

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                        • Originally posted by DOR View Post
                          Oh.
                          So, do you have any legit sources?
                          https://delawarevalleyjournal.com/ne...ction-results/

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                          • Originally posted by Gun Grape View Post
                            I would think that if they had evidence of a crime, they would contact Local Law Enforcement, the FBI, the State Elections Commission.
                            Local DA is investigating.

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                            • Review of the Audit of Fulton County Georgia ballots finds major inconsistencies. (Link is to governor office release on the matter)


                              Review of Inconsistencies in the Data Supporting the Risk Limiting Audit Report.pdf (justthenews.com)

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                              • Trump challenges media and Democrats to debate his electoral fraud lie

                                Donald Trump has challenged leading editors and politicians to debate him in public over his lie that Joe Biden beat him in 2020 through electoral fraud.

                                In a typically rambling statement on Sunday, the former president complained about “the heads of the various papers [and] far left politicians” and said: “If anyone would like a public debate on the facts, not the fiction, please let me know. It will be a ratings bonanza for television!”

                                Despite Trump’s insistence that “the 2020 election was rigged and stolen” – and his well-known fixation on TV ratings – it was not.

                                Even William Barr, an attorney general widely seen as willing to run interference for Trump, publicly stated there was no evidence of widespread electoral fraud.

                                Biden beat Trump by more than 7m in the popular vote and by 306-232 in the electoral college, a result Trump called a landslide when he beat Hillary Clinton by it in 2016. Clinton also beat him in the popular vote.

                                Trump’s proposal of a public debate – which seemed unlikely to bear fruit – extended to what he called “members of the highly partisan unselect committee of Democrats who refuse to delve into what caused the 6 January protest”.

                                The attack on the US Capitol, Trump said, was caused by “the fake election results”.

                                In a way, he was right. It was his lies about the election which led to the deaths of five people around the attack on Congress by a mob seeking to stop certification of Biden’s win, some chanting that Trump’s vice-president, Mike Pence, should be hanged.

                                At a rally near the White House shortly before the riot, Trump told supporters to “fight like hell” in his cause. He was impeached for inciting an insurrection but acquitted when only seven GOP senators found him guilty, not enough to convict.


                                On Sunday, Adam Schiff, the Democratic chair of the House intelligence committee and a member of the 6 January panel, told CNN: “We tried to hold the former president accountable through impeachment. That’s the remedy that we have in Congress. We are now trying to expose the full facts of the former president’s misconduct as well as those around him.”

                                To adapt the Tennessee Republican Howard Baker’s famous question about Richard Nixon and Watergate, the House committee is focusing on what Trump knew about plans for protest and possible violence on 6 January – and when he knew it.

                                Numerous Trump aides and allies have been served with subpoenas. Most, like the former White House strategist Steve Bannon, who has pleaded not guilty to contempt of Congress in the first such case since 1983, have refused to cooperate.

                                Schiff said a decision on a possible contempt charge for Mark Meadows, Trump’s last White House chief of staff, would likely be made in the coming week.

                                It seems unlikely any senior figure in the US media or among Democrats in Congress or state governments will take up Trump’s challenge to debate him in public.

                                Observers including the former New Jersey governor Chris Christie, who helped Trump prepare for his debates against Biden, agree that a near-berserk performance in the first such contest did significant damage to Trump’s chances of re-election.

                                At one point on a chaotic evening in Cleveland in September, Biden was so exasperated as to plead: “Would you shut up, man? This is so unpresidential.”
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                                Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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