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  • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
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    And there it is...
    Fat Nixon fucked with the wrong guy!
    “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
    Mark Twain

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    • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

      Fat Nixon fucked with the wrong guy!
      If Rudy flipped on him (he totally did lol) then Fat Nixon is in deep shit. Question is, will Rudy get indicted in Georgia?
      “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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      • Michigan charges 16 fake electors for Donald Trump with election law and forgery felonies

        LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan’s attorney general filed felony charges Tuesday against 16 Republicans who acted as fake electors for then-President Donald Trump in 2020, accusing them of submitting false certificates that confirmed they were legitimate electors despite Joe Biden’s victory in the state.

        Attorney General Dana Nessel, a Democrat, announced Tuesday that all 16 people would face eight criminal charges, including forgery and conspiracy to commit election forgery. The top charges carry a maximum penalty of 14 years in prison.

        The group includes the head of the Republican National Committee’s chapter in Michigan, Kathy Berden, as well as the former co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, Meshawn Maddock, and Shelby Township Clerk Stan Grot.

        In seven battleground states, including Michigan, supporters of Trump signed certificates that falsely stated he won their states, not Biden. The fake certificates were ignored, but the attempt has been subject to investigations, including by the House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

        “The false electors’ actions undermined the public’s faith in the integrity of our elections and, we believe, also plainly violated the laws by which we administer our elections in Michigan,” Nessel said in a statement.

        The 16 individuals are set to appear for arraignment in Ingham County at a date provided to each by the court, according to Nessel's office.

        Phone and email messages seeking comment Tuesday from several of the people charged were not immediately returned.

        One of those charged, John Haggard, 82, of Charlevoix, told The Detroit News on Tuesday that he he didn’t believe he did anything wrong.

        “Did I do anything illegal? No,” Haggard said.

        GOP state Sen. Ed McBroom, who chaired a GOP-led Senate panel to investigate Michigan’s 2020 presidential election that found no wrongdoing, said he previously spoke with one of the fake electors. It was clear, McBroom said, that the effort was organized by “people who put themselves in a position of authority and posing themselves as the ones who knew what they were doing."

        “They were wrong,” McBroom told The Associated Press. “And other people followed them when they shouldn’t have.”

        Berden and Mayra Rodriguez, a Michigan lawyer who was also charged Tuesday, were both questioned by congressional investigators as part of the U.S. House panel’s investigation into the Jan. 6 insurrection.

        In January of last year, Nessel asked federal prosecutors to open a criminal investigation into the 16 Republicans.

        “Obviously this is part of a much bigger conspiracy,” she said at the time.

        Electors are people appointed to represent voters in presidential elections. The winner of the popular vote in each state determines which party’s electors are sent to the Electoral College, which meets in December after the election to certify the outcome.

        False Electoral College certificates were also submitted declaring Trump the winner of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

        Investigations are underway in some other states that submitted fake electors, but not all.


        A Georgia prosecutor investigating possible illegal meddling in the 2020 election has agreed to immunity deals with at least eight fake electors. And Arizona’s Democratic attorney general is in the very early stages of a probe. Nevada’s attorney general, also a Democrat, has said he won’t bring charges, while Wisconsin has no active investigation and the attorney general has deferred to the U.S. Justice Department.

        There is no apparent investigation in Pennsylvania and former Attorney General Josh Shapiro, who is now governor, said he didn’t believe there was evidence the actions of the fake electors met the legal standards for forgery.

        A group of other Trump allies in Michigan, including former GOP attorney general candidate Matthew DePerno, are facing potential criminal charges related to attempts to gain access to voting machines after the 2020 election.

        According to documents released last year by Nessel’s office, five vote tabulators were taken from Roscommon and Missaukee counties in northern Michigan, and Barry County in western Michigan. The tabulators were subsequently broken into and “tests” were performed on the equipment.

        A grand jury was convened in March at the request of a special prosecutor to consider indictments, according to court records. The special prosecutor, D.J. Hilson, wrote in May in a court document that “a charging decision is ready to be made.”

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        Did not see this one coming....Damn fine work by the Michigan AG.
        “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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        • Did not see this one coming....Damn fine work by the Michigan AG.

          I burst out laughing in my truck when this was announced on NPR last night.
          “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
          Mark Twain

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          • Potential Trump Charges Include Civil Rights Law Used in Voting Fraud Cases
            A target letter sent by the special counsel investigating Donald Trump’s efforts to reverse his election loss cited three statutes that could be the basis for a prosecution.


            Former President Donald J. Trump in Concord, N.H., last month

            July 19, 2023, 6:49 p.m. ETFederal prosecutors have introduced a new twist in the Jan. 6 investigation by suggesting in a target letter that they could charge former President Donald J. Trump with violating a civil rights statute that dates back to the post-Civil War Reconstruction era, according to three people familiar with the matter.

            The letter to Mr. Trump from the special counsel, Jack Smith, referred to three criminal statutes as part of the grand jury investigation into Mr. Trump’s efforts to reverse his 2020 election loss, according to two people with knowledge of its contents. Two of the statutes were familiar from the criminal referral by the House Jan. 6 committee and months of discussion by legal experts: conspiracy to defraud the government and obstruction of an official proceeding.

            But the third criminal law cited in the letter was a surprise: Section 241 of Title 18 of the United States Code, which makes it a crime for people to “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person” in the “free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States.”

            Congress enacted that statute after the Civil War to provide a tool for federal agents to go after Southern whites, including Ku Klux Klan members, who engaged in terrorism to prevent formerly enslaved African Americans from voting. But in the modern era, it has been used more broadly, including in cases of voting fraud conspiracies.


            A Justice Department spokesman declined to discuss the target letter and Mr. Smith’s theory for bringing the Section 241 statute into the Jan. 6 investigation. But the modern usage of the law raised the possibility that Mr. Trump, who baselessly declared the election he lost to have been rigged, could face prosecution on accusations of trying to rig the election himself.

            A series of 20th-century cases upheld application of the law in cases involving alleged tampering with ballot boxes by casting false votes or falsely tabulating votes after the election was over, even if no specific voter could be considered the victim.

            In a 1950 opinion by the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, for example, Judge Charles C. Simons wrote of applying Section 241 in a ballot box-stuffing case that the right to an honest count “is a right possessed by each voting elector, and to the extent that the importance of his vote is nullified, wholly or in part, he has been injured in the free exercise of a right or privilege secured to him by the laws and Constitution of the United States.”

            In a 1974 Supreme Court opinion upholding the use of Section 241 to charge West Virginians who cast fake votes on a voting machine, Justice Thurgood Marshall cited Judge Simons and added that every voter “has a right under the Constitution to have his vote fairly counted, without its being distorted by fraudulently cast votes.”

            The line of 20th-century cases raised the prospect that Mr. Smith and his team could be weighing using that law to cover efforts by Mr. Trump and his associates to flip the outcome of states he lost. Those efforts included the recorded phone conversation in which Mr. Trump tried to bully Georgia’s secretary of state to “find” enough additional votes to overcome Mr. Biden’s win in that state and promoting a plan to use so-called fake electors — self-appointed slates of pro-Trump electors from states won by Mr. Biden — to help block or delay congressional certification of Mr. Trump’s defeat.

            “It seems like under 241 there’s at least a right to an honest counting of the votes,” said Norman Eisen, who worked for the House Judiciary Committee during Mr. Trump’s first impeachment. “Submitting an alternate electoral certificate to Congress (as opposed to casting false votes or counting wrong) is a novel scenario, but it seems like it would violate this right.”

            The prospect of charging Mr. Trump under the other two statutes cited in the target letter is less novel, if not without hurdles. Among other things, in its final report last year, the House committee that investigated the events that culminated in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol had recommended that the Justice Department charge the former president under both of them.

            One, Section 371 of Title 18, makes it a crime to conspire to defraud the United States. The other, Section 1512, includes a provision that makes it a crime to corruptly obstruct an official proceeding.

            A spokesman for Mr. Trump declined requests to clarify what was in the letter.

            Citing the statutes in the letter, which Mr. Trump has said he received on Sunday, does not necessarily mean that any charges brought by Mr. Smith would have to be based on them. But the letter’s contents provide a road map to investigators’ thinking.

            The conspiracy to defraud the United States statute, if used, raises the question of who Mr. Trump’s co-conspirators would be.

            Some of those who worked most closely with Mr. Trump in promoting the lie that Mr. Trump had been robbed of a victory by widespread fraud, including lawyers like Rudolph W. Giuliani and John Eastman, had not received target letters, their lawyers said on Tuesday.

            The corrupt obstruction of a proceeding charge has been used against hundreds of Jan. 6 rioters and has served as the Justice Department’s go-to count in describing the central event that day: the disruption of the Electoral College certification process that was taking place inside the Capitol during a joint session of Congress.

            The law was originally passed as part of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, a measure meant to curb corporate malfeasance. Defense lawyers for several rioters have challenged its use against their client, saying it was meant to stop crimes like witness tampering or document destruction and had been unfairly stretched to include the chaos at the Capitol.

            But in April, a federal appeals court upheld the viability of applying that charge to participants in the Capitol attack. Still, unlike ordinary rioters, Mr. Trump did not physically participate in the storming of the Capitol, although he had summoned supporters to Washington that day and railed about the unwillingness of Vice President Mike Pence, who was presiding over the proceedings in Congress, to stop them.

            A second attempt to invalidate the obstruction count in the federal appeals court in Washington has focused specifically on a provision of the law dictating that defendants must act “corruptly” in committing the obstructive act.

            Defense lawyers have argued that this provision does not apply to many ordinary Jan. 6 rioters who did not act corruptly because they stood to gain nothing personally by entering the Capitol. It could, however, be applied more easily to Mr. Trump, who stood to gain an election victory by obstructing the certification process.
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            “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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            • Trump lawyers told to expect indictment

              WASHINGTON, (Reuters) -Donald Trump's attorneys have been told to expect an indictment against the former U.S. president from a federal investigation into efforts to overturn his 2020 presidential election defeat, NBC News reported on Thursday, citing unidentified sources.

              The report did not say when to expect the indictment.

              Special Counsel Jack Smith is investigating actions by Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, to try to reverse his loss to Democrat Joe Biden in the 2020 election.

              Officials have testified that during his final months in office, Trump pressured them with false claims of widespread voter fraud. His supporters attacked the U.S. Capitol in a Jan. 6, 2021, bid to stop Congress from certifying Biden's win.


              Trump said on July 18 he had received a letter from Smith stating that he was a target of the probe.

              Several U.S. news outlets reported Trump's lawyers had arrived at a Justice Department building and were meeting with officials in Smith's office.

              It is not uncommon for defense attorneys to meet with federal prosecutors before an indictment.

              Trump is already the first former U.S. president to face criminal charges, which he has sought to portray as a politically motivated witch hunt.

              Any indictment in the election case would represent a second round of federal charges from Smith, who was appointed in November by U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland.

              Trump's attorneys previously met with officials at the Justice Department, including Smith, before a grand jury in Miami indicted Trump in June.

              Trump pleaded not guilty in Miami to a 37-count indictment charging him with unlawfully retaining classified government documents after leaving office in 2021 and obstructing justice. Prosecutors accused him of risking some of the most sensitive U.S. national security secrets.

              The first charges brought against Trump came in March when a grand jury convened by Manhattan's district attorney indicted him. Trump in April pleaded not guilty to a 34 charges accusing him of falsifying business records concerning a payment to porn star Stormy Daniels to buy her silence before the 2016 election about a sexual encounter she said she had with him.

              Trump, 77, leads a crowded field of Republican presidential candidates as he seeks a rematch with Biden, 80, next year.
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              Yet another new thread to start:

              The former president of the United States will go on trial for crimes against democracy and ordering a coup. The People v. Donald Trump.





              “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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              • Meanwhile, in the land of alternate facts....

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                All of Yam's Men: "See, Trumpybear is all good, right?"

                DOJ:
                “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                • DeSantis is gotta be salivating. He may make up 5% of his 30% deficit in support!
                  “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                  Mark Twain

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                  • Trump allies who 'orchestrated' plan to tamper with voting machines face charges in Michigan


                    Voters line up as the doors open to the Election Center for absentee early voting for the general election in Sterling Heights, Mich., Oct. 29, 2020. Stefanie Lambert, a Michigan attorney involved in multiple efforts around the country to overturn the 2020 election in support of former President Donald Trump, was charged Thursday, Aug. 3, 2023, in connection with accessing and tampering with voting machines in Michigan, according to court records.

                    LANSING, Mich. (AP) — A Michigan attorney involved in multiple efforts around the country to overturn the 2020 election in support of former President Donald Trump has been charged in connection with accessing and tampering with voting machines in Michigan, prosecutors announced Thursday.

                    The charges against Stefanie Lambert come days after Matthew DePerno, a Republican lawyer whom Trump endorsed in an unsuccessful run for Michigan attorney general last year, and former GOP state Rep. Daire Rendon were arraigned in connection with the case.

                    Lambert, DePerno, and Rendon were named by Attorney General Dana Nessel’s office last year as having “orchestrated a coordinated plan to gain access to voting tabulators.”


                    Michigan is one of at least three states where prosecutors say people breached election systems while embracing and spreading Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was stolen.

                    Investigators there say five vote tabulators were illegally taken from three counties and brought to a hotel room, according to documents released last year by Nessel’s office. The tabulators were then broken into and “tests” were performed on the equipment.

                    Prosecutors said that Thursday’s announcement “ends the charging decisions in this investigation.”

                    Investigators named nine individuals in connection with the scheme. Those not charged include Cyber Ninjas founder Doug Logan, Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf, Ben Cotton, Jeff Lenberg and James Penrose.

                    Local clerks that turned over the vote tabulators and “experts” who analyzed the equipment “were deceived by some of the charged defendants,” according to a statement from special prosecutor D.J. Hilson.

                    Hilson convened a grand jury in March to determine whether criminal indictments should be issued, court documents show. The citizen grand jury “carefully listened to the sworn testimony,” and “returned a decision to indict each of the defendants,” Hilson said Thursday.

                    Lambert, who is listed in court records under the last name Lambert Junttila, appeared before a judge Thursday afternoon and plead not guilty. She is facing four criminal charges, including undue possession of a voting machine and conspiracy, according to court records.

                    She did not immediately respond to requests for comment left by email and a phone message with her attorney.

                    On a conservative podcast appearance last week, Lambert said that she had been notified of an indictment and claimed no wrongdoing. She said Hilson was “misrepresenting the law.”

                    A state judge ruled last month that it is a felony, punishable by up to five years in prison, to take a machine without a court order or permission directly from the Secretary of State’s office.

                    Trump, who is now making his third bid for the presidency, was charged by the U.S. Department of Justice on Aug. 1 with conspiracy to defraud the United States among other counts related to his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.


                    Nessel announced last month eight criminal charges each against 16 Republicans who she said submitted false certificates as electors for then-President Trump in Michigan, a state Joe Biden won.
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                    “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                    • DeSantis says 2020 election fraud theories ‘did not prove to be true’

                      Republican presidential candidate and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Friday that theories about fraud in the 2020 election “did not prove to be true,” marking his most direct rebuke of former President Trump’s election claims yet.

                      “All those theories that were put out did not prove to be true,” the Florida governor said at a campaign event in Iowa, according to The New York Times.

                      “It was not an election that was conducted the way I think that we want to, but that’s different than saying [Venezuelan President Nicolás] Maduro stole votes or something like that,” he added. “Those theories, you know, proved to be unsubstantiated.”

                      DeSantis has previously dodged questions about the former president’s claims that the 2020 election was “stolen,” declining to say whether he believes Trump lost the race to President Biden.

                      The Florida governor’s latest response comes one day after Trump was arraigned in Washington on federal charges related to his efforts to remain in power after losing the 2020 election.

                      However, DeSantis did not shy away from criticizing the Justice Department over the indictment Tuesday, blaming the “weaponization of government” for the newest charges against Trump.

                      “As President, I will end the weaponization of government, replace the FBI Director, and ensure a single standard of justice for all Americans,” he said in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter, after the indictment was unsealed.

                      He also called for reforms “so that Americans have the right to remove cases” to their home districts. Trump claimed ahead of his Thursday arraignment it would be impossible for him to get a fair trial in Washington.

                      “Washington, D.C., is a ‘swamp’ and it is unfair to have to stand trial before a jury that is reflective of the swamp mentality,” DeSantis said.
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                      Oh wow....I had no idea that Ron DeSantis was a left/extreme-left liberal member of the Deep State
                      “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                      • US Supreme Court rejects former Trump lawyer Eastman's appeal over emails


                        John Eastman testifies before the House Ways and Means Committee hearing on Organizations Targeted by IRS for Their Personal Beliefs on Capitol Hill in Washington

                        WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday turned away an appeal by John Eastman, a conservative lawyer indicted in August over his role in efforts to overturn Donald Trump's 2020 election loss, in a case involving 10 emails that he had sought to shield from congressional investigators.

                        The justices declined to hear Eastman's appeal of a lower court's refusal to wipe out a federal judge's determination that the emails could be turned over to a House of Representatives committee due to an exception to attorney-client privilege involving communications likely used in furtherance of a crime.

                        Conservative Justice Clarence Thomas did not participate in considering the case, the court's brief order showed. As is customary for the justices, Thomas did not explain the reason for his recusal. The Washington Post last year reported that congressional investigators had obtained emails between Eastman, who once served as a law clerk for Thomas, and the justice's wife, conservative activist Virginia "Ginni" Thomas.

                        "We're disappointed, of course," Anthony Caso, a lawyer for Eastman, said of the court's decision not to hear the appeal.

                        The Democratic-led House panel issued a subpoena seeking the emails in its investigation into the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol by Trump's supporters and other matters involving efforts to undo Democrat Joe Biden's 2020 election victory over Trump.

                        Eastman, a former law professor at Chapman University in California, filed suit in federal court to prevent the school from complying with the panel's subpoena.

                        In decisions in 2022, U.S. District Court Judge David Carter in Santa Ana ordered certain emails to be turned over, including those related to court efforts by Trump and Eastman to delay congressional certification of Biden's victory. Trump has made false claims that the election was stolen from him through widespread voting fraud.

                        Attorney-client communications are normally safeguarded from disclosure. The so-called "crime-fraud" exception involves when a judge determines that they are likely used in furtherance of a crime.

                        Carter ruled that Trump and Eastman had "more likely than not" committed a crime in trying to obstruct Congress.

                        Eastman has sought to erase the judge's determination that the "crime-fraud" exception applied to some of the emails. His lawyers argued that given the fact that the emails eventually were publicly disclosed and left the legal case "moot," Carter's ruling "imposes a stigma" on both him and Trump and should be voided.

                        Eastman appealed after the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals last November rejected his request to wipe out Carter's "crime-fraud" decision.

                        Eastman represented Trump in a long-shot lawsuit seeking to overturn voting results in four states that Trump lost in 2020 and spoke at a rally at which Trump addressed his supporters before the Capitol riot. Eastman also wrote a memo outlining how, in his view, then-Vice President Mike Pence could thwart the formal congressional certification of Biden's victory, though Pence ultimately declined to follow his advice.

                        Eastman pleaded not guilty after being indicted in August in Georgia's Fulton County alongside Trump and a raft of others on state charges involving efforts to reverse Trump's election loss. The indictment accused Eastman of being part of a plot to appoint fake electors for the election certification process.

                        Trump is the frontrunner for the Republican nomination to face Biden in the 2024 election.

                        The justices announced their action on the first day of their new nine-month term.
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                        So much winning....

                        But why would Thomas recuse hims.....oh, right. That's awkward.
                        “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                        • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                          US Supreme Court rejects former Trump lawyer Eastman's appeal over emails


                          John Eastman testifies before the House Ways and Means Committee hearing on Organizations Targeted by IRS for Their Personal Beliefs on Capitol Hill in Washington

                          WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday turned away an appeal by John Eastman, a conservative lawyer indicted in August over his role in efforts to overturn Donald Trump's 2020 election loss, in a case involving 10 emails that he had sought to shield from congressional investigators.

                          The justices declined to hear Eastman's appeal of a lower court's refusal to wipe out a federal judge's determination that the emails could be turned over to a House of Representatives committee due to an exception to attorney-client privilege involving communications likely used in furtherance of a crime.

                          Conservative Justice Clarence Thomas did not participate in considering the case, the court's brief order showed. As is customary for the justices, Thomas did not explain the reason for his recusal. The Washington Post last year reported that congressional investigators had obtained emails between Eastman, who once served as a law clerk for Thomas, and the justice's wife, conservative activist Virginia "Ginni" Thomas.

                          "We're disappointed, of course," Anthony Caso, a lawyer for Eastman, said of the court's decision not to hear the appeal.

                          The Democratic-led House panel issued a subpoena seeking the emails in its investigation into the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol by Trump's supporters and other matters involving efforts to undo Democrat Joe Biden's 2020 election victory over Trump.

                          Eastman, a former law professor at Chapman University in California, filed suit in federal court to prevent the school from complying with the panel's subpoena.

                          In decisions in 2022, U.S. District Court Judge David Carter in Santa Ana ordered certain emails to be turned over, including those related to court efforts by Trump and Eastman to delay congressional certification of Biden's victory. Trump has made false claims that the election was stolen from him through widespread voting fraud.

                          Attorney-client communications are normally safeguarded from disclosure. The so-called "crime-fraud" exception involves when a judge determines that they are likely used in furtherance of a crime.

                          Carter ruled that Trump and Eastman had "more likely than not" committed a crime in trying to obstruct Congress.

                          Eastman has sought to erase the judge's determination that the "crime-fraud" exception applied to some of the emails. His lawyers argued that given the fact that the emails eventually were publicly disclosed and left the legal case "moot," Carter's ruling "imposes a stigma" on both him and Trump and should be voided.

                          Eastman appealed after the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals last November rejected his request to wipe out Carter's "crime-fraud" decision.

                          Eastman represented Trump in a long-shot lawsuit seeking to overturn voting results in four states that Trump lost in 2020 and spoke at a rally at which Trump addressed his supporters before the Capitol riot. Eastman also wrote a memo outlining how, in his view, then-Vice President Mike Pence could thwart the formal congressional certification of Biden's victory, though Pence ultimately declined to follow his advice.

                          Eastman pleaded not guilty after being indicted in August in Georgia's Fulton County alongside Trump and a raft of others on state charges involving efforts to reverse Trump's election loss. The indictment accused Eastman of being part of a plot to appoint fake electors for the election certification process.

                          Trump is the frontrunner for the Republican nomination to face Biden in the 2024 election.

                          The justices announced their action on the first day of their new nine-month term.
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                          So much winning....

                          But why would Thomas recuse hims.....oh, right. That's awkward.
                          Credit where due. He did recluse himself, to the extent that matters in the long term.
                          If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                          • Originally posted by Monash View Post

                            Credit where due. He did recluse himself, to the extent that matters in the long term.
                            In the past he hasn't bothered even with blatant conflicts of interest.

                            I don't think he had much of a choice this time. He's already got a microscope shining on him. I'm sure he's been avoiding billionaire's jets and yachts as well.

                            “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                            • A man charged with voter fraud in Florida blames rivalry between Trump and DeSantis supporters

                              THE VILLAGES, Fla. (AP) — A man has been charged with forgery and fraud after authorities say he cast a ballot in Florida for his deceased father in the 2020 election, though the suspect says the charges were motivated by a local, internal GOP political rivalry between former President Donald Trump advocates and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis supporters.

                              Elections officials in Sumter County did not count the ballot because it was postmarked four days after the father died in mid-October 2020, according to a criminal complaint brought by William Keen, the Sumter County elections supervisor. An examination of the father's ballot showed the signature on it resembled that of his son’s and not any of the father’s previous ballot signatures, the complaint said.

                              Robert Rivernider was arrested and charged last week with felony forgery of a public record and fraud, according to court documents. He has since been released from custody.

                              Reached by telephone Wednesday, Rivernider said he planned to plead not guilty. He blamed the charges on a local political rivalry between himself, an active Trump supporter, and local officials supporting DeSantis, who also is a candidate for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination. He pointed out that charges were filed almost three years after the election.

                              “There is a lot of politics that goes on here in Sumter County and they don’t like the fact that I don’t follow their system,” Rivernider said.

                              An email was sent to Keen seeking comment.

                              Rivernider lives near The Villages, a massive retirement community where at least four residents have been arrested since the 2020 election on voter fraud charges.

                              Last year, DeSantis and the Republican-dominated Florida Legislature created a law enforcement agency to investigate election crimes, despite there being little evidence of electoral malfeasance by voters in the Sunshine State. The unit's first public actions were the arrests of 20 people for illegally voting in 2020. DeSantis has said the people were not eligible to vote under a 2018 constitutional amendment that restores voting rights to some felons because they had been convicted of murder or a felony sexual offense.

                              Rivernider was convicted a decade ago in federal court in Connecticut of orchestrating a $20 million real estate flipping scheme and has still been paying restitution to dozens of victims. In Florida, felons must pay all fines, restitution and legal fees before they can regain their right to vote.
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                              The Party of Personal Responsibility blames....someone else...from the Party of Personal Responsibility.

                              Wait, I thought dead voters was a Democrat thing? Can any Dems confirm that?
                              “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                              • Originally posted by TopHatter;n1603091/
                                The Party of Personal Responsibility blames....someone else...from the Party of Personal Responsibility.

                                Wait, I thought dead voters was a Democrat thing? Can any Dems confirm that?
                                No, I don't think I could confirm that.

                                Wait, both me and DOR are brain dead by now so maybe we can confirm. I need to caucus with DOR first. I just have to figure out what DOR stands for...oh this is complicated!

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