Race and 2016

[Wooglin]

Well, at least in your mind anyway.

Well, that was convincing. Were you even paying attention or did you just feel the need to spout something off?

[antimony]

Well, at least in your mind anyway.

The echo chamber is strong in him

[tbm3fan]

Thanks for proving me right.

Well, at least in your mind anyway.

[Wooglin]

You are calling me a racist!

I knew that would be your response. I have never called anyone on this thread or forum a racist ever. My point was about the hypocrisy of right wingers making offensive and vitriolic statements against the left or muslims, or defending them when made by Trump, and then being quick to claim outrage or victimhood at allegedly being called a racist.

No, you just implied it by sticking words in my mouth. And your "point" was just an exercise in circular logic, along with a strawman. Thus, the comment about the mental gymnastics to justify what you already believe. Thanks for proving me right.

[InExile]

Really? You got all that from "well said"? I dont recall trying to justify it, could you quote me exactly? I do recall agreeing that people just don't give a fuck because asshats like you will use whatever mental gymnastics you need to try to justify what you already believe, and label them racist anyway, like you just did. Thanks for providing an example.

You are calling me a racist!

I knew that would be your response. I have never called anyone on this thread or forum a racist ever. My point was about the hypocrisy of right wingers making offensive and vitriolic statements against the left or muslims, or defending them when made by Trump, and then being quick to claim outrage or victimhood at allegedly being called a racist.

[antimony]

That is your best case? Nice then.Is good to know that the worst cases of mischief are 2 chaps complaining about being harassed.
Your side started and mastered this sort of crap.The number and severity of harassment is orders of magnitude above anything those guys said(which may be true threats or invented ones).Meanwhile a POTUS elect has received death threats,he was also assaulted during the elections,political gatherings and supporters were under violent attacks.Your side is the one that has lowered any logical debate to a mewling a -isms and now has tried to lower an election to the level of an African election.
Your chaps started this crap.Is about time they are spoken to in a language they understand.

You want to speak in a different language, be my guest. You are not the only ones with a "right to defend" yourselves

[drhuy]

So you are justifying a man who implied a number of Mexicans were rapists, said he wanted to ban members of a religion from visiting the US, made vulgar comments about women caught on tap, mocked a disabled reporter and did and said many other outrageous things.

And you expect the rest of to care that some mean old lefties are calling you a racist.

What difference, at this point, does it make? - Hillary Clinton (1947 - 2016).

fewer and fewer people are gonna care what people like you think of them.

[drhuy]

drhuy,



do try and learn a little bit about the electoral college, and the demographics of the states that won the election for Trump.

for the 2020 election, if dem support among minorities -remains the same- as 2016 and the republicans keep the exact same level of support among working class whites-- the latter of which i have my doubts about-- then just by demographic growth alone, the dems would have flipped the results.



who says it is "against whites"? do you say working class white people are united as a bloc against minorities?

correspondingly, college-educated white voters as well as white women have shifted Dem over the last 20 years; they used to be Republican dominated demographics but is now a toss-up.

the 2016 election is not just about the WH, is it?

of course its always "the party of minorities against whites", you can only fool yourself. when you guys are too busy vilifying whites, you seem to forget that hatred, racism, bigot exist in ALL races. minorities care about other minorities as much as whites do.

Oh and spare me the "white voters shifted dem". People dont call you the self-loathing lefties for no reason.

the thing about identity politics is that it will turn around and bite you in your backside. "Vote for him, he's a minority just like you. Vote for him, he's young and fresh just like you are. Well, it worked. But guess what, the next time when you field just another old white angry candidate, those people just stay home. (the fact the black people have been doing even worse under 8 years of the first black president didnt help either).

[Wooglin]

So you are justifying a man who implied a number of Mexicans were rapists, said he wanted to ban members of a religion from visiting the US, made vulgar comments about women caught on tap, mocked a disabled reporter and did and said many other outrageous things.

And you expect the rest of to care that some mean old lefties are calling you a racist.

Really? You got all that from "well said"? I dont recall trying to justify it, could you quote me exactly? I do recall agreeing that people just don't give a fuck because asshats like you will use whatever mental gymnastics you need to try to justify what you already believe, and label them racist anyway, like you just did. Thanks for providing an example.

[Mihais]

No.Is just a chronological order.I am not excusing vile acts by "my" side,for the simple reason I am not voting.I am putting the thing in perspective.Nobody is perfect.But it is relevant to the society and to the debate to put things in balance.
And yes,it is the a big difference between somebody trolling somebody during the election and organized violence.
Frankly speaking,I don't think I should understand how one can still support the Dems after this.They lost all legitimacy.
If this happens anywhere else and by anyone else,you'd see all the talking heads getting hysterical and strong condemnation by the State Dept for the scoundrels who attack democratic free election.And rightly so.

People who are insulted generally double down.Thus insults are not effective means of communicating ideas.Most Dems were not insulted,but they still double down on their failed(at elections at least) ideas.They miss a perfect opportunity for introspection.

[InExile]

Your chaps started this crap.Is about time they are spoken to in a language they understand.

So basically you are using the kindergarten argument to justify or dismiss any bad behavior by your side 'Teacher, he started it!'

[Mihais]

Yeah, only the leftists shout; the right is an epitome of decency
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...trump-movement
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/15/502042...rump-and-ailes

That is your best case? Nice then.Is good to know that the worst cases of mischief are 2 chaps complaining about being harassed.
Your side started and mastered this sort of crap.The number and severity of harassment is orders of magnitude above anything those guys said(which may be true threats or invented ones).Meanwhile a POTUS elect has received death threats,he was also assaulted during the elections,political gatherings and supporters were under violent attacks.Your side is the one that has lowered any logical debate to a mewling a -isms and now has tried to lower an election to the level of an African election.
Your chaps started this crap.Is about time they are spoken to in a language they understand.

[Mihais]

So you are justifying a man who implied a number of Mexicans were rapists, said he wanted to ban members of a religion from visiting the US, made vulgar comments about women caught on tap, mocked a disabled reporter and did and said many other outrageous things.

And you expect the rest of to care that some mean old lefties are calling you a racist.

Strictly speaking he agreed with me and I've said none of those "vile" words :) And I don't give a sh!t about being called racist.I'm even proud of that.It means I win and I don't care about lamentations :)

You still think it matters if he called Mexicans rapists or wanted to ban muslims(incidentally it would be good idea,but has since then discarded by Trump).Is election speech.It got him elected.It is proof that he understands the masses better than the "experts".Case closed.
Now is important to see his actions and their benefits.

[Parihaka]

Meanwhile, back on topic, the Democrat media has been running 'racists take to the streets' since the election.

A Louisiana college student has acknowledged she fabricated a report that she was assaulted and robbed of her wallet and Muslim headscarf by two men, one of whom she described as wearing a white “Trump” hat, police said Thursday.

‘Hang a n****r from a tree’: Police take action against sign promoting lynching over ‘equal rights’

UPDATE: The Pittsburg Police Department released a statement on Sunday afternoon that said, “The homeowner is an African American male who has continued to display offensive signs. The legal effort is ongoing.”

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Flying a Nazi flag at his home in San Francisco’s Dolores Heights on Wednesday was Frederick Roeber’s attempt to make a social comment on President-elect Donald Trump.
But the 48-year-old quickly realized the display was misguided when neighbors spotted the ominous swastika and immediately confronted him in the street outside the house.
Roeber, who is retired and lives in the storybook-esque home on the corner of Sanchez and 21st streets, said he didn’t like Trump’s comments about Muslims and Mexican immigrants during the election. San Francisco homeowner’s Nazi flag protest of Trump backfires

Flying a Nazi flag at his home in San Francisco’s Dolores Heights on Wednesday was Frederick Roeber’s attempt to make a social comment on President-elect Donald Trump.
But the 48-year-old quickly realized the display was misguided when neighbors spotted the ominous swastika and immediately confronted him in the street outside the house.
Roeber, who is retired and lives in the storybook-esque home on the corner of Sanchez and 21st streets, said he didn’t like Trump’s comments about Muslims and Mexican immigrants during the election.
Frederick Roeber, 48, briefly flew a Nazi flag above his San Francisco home in what he described as a protest against president-elect Donald Trump. But neighbors soon spotted the swastika and confronted him.
“I am hoping people get that this is a political statement, and that I’m not a Nazi supporter,” Roeber said outside his home’s wrought iron gates and manicured garden. “I’m a little afraid that neighbors will get the wrong idea.”
But that’s exactly what happened

It turns out that some anti-Latino graffiti at Elon University is all a big hoax, perpetrated by a student of the very ethnicity the message targeted.

“Bye Bye Latinos Hasta La Vista” the whiteboard message read, and as you’d expect it led to immediate fierce denunciations from staff and students alike upon its discovery on Thursday.

**Social Media Report of Gas Station Incident**
We are aware of the circulating post involving a woman who was allegedly harassed/menaced at a gas station. We can tell you that this incident, if it occurred in Smyrna Delaware, has not been reported to our agency. We understand that this person has stated via social media that she has filed charges against the perpetrators. We again want to stress that we, the Smyrna Police Department have no record of this incident. We ask that all questions/comments/concerns be addressed to the social media user who made this post, and/or the police agency she reported this incident to

In the latest case of a faked hate crime, a 20-year-old man has admitted he made it up when he told Malden cops he was harassed by two men proclaiming it’s “Trump country now.”

The man, whose name police have not released, had filed a complaint saying when he got off an MBTA bus near Broadway Square in Malden at 10 p.m. Tuesday, at least two white men approached him.

The men used a racial slur, made a reference to lynching and warned him this is Donald “Trump country now,” according to the report he gave police. He was able to get away from the men and hid before calling police, officials said.

Investigators prioritized resources for the suspected “hate crime” incident and re-interviewed the alleged victim.

“As a result, it has been determined that the story was completely fabricated,” Malden police Chief Kevin Molis said in a statement. “The alleged victim admitted that he had made up the entire story,” saying he wanted to “raise awareness about things that are going on around the country.”

Eleesha Long said she was assaulted and called a racial slur, but BG police said she made the story up.

Long wrote a police complaint on November 9th that reads in part, "while walking down Crim St to ask for yard signs, three boys began to throw rocks at me."

Long continued to write the white males shouted profanity at her while wearing Trump shirts. She described how all three young men looked and what they were wearing.

Reports show she posted what happened to her on Facebook page, but never called 911.

BG detectives said her post got a lot of attention, including her father who told law enforcement he couldn't locate the 24-year-old after the alleged incident.

A BGSU officer took Long to the police station where she gave a statement.

However, throughout the investigation she changed her story multiple times.

Lt. Dan Mancuso with the BG Police Division said, "several times the complainant changed her story about what happened, where it happened, and when it happened."


Lt. Mancuso said they obtained a search warrant for her Facebook and Verizon history. Turned out, she wasn't where she said she was Lt. Mancuso added.

"Based on that information, it proved that she was not in the location that of when she said it occurred," Lt. Mancuso told 13abc.

Her text messages allegedly reveal her real motivation may have been frustration with friends and family who were Trump supporters.

[tbm3fan]

And you expect the rest of to care that some mean old lefties are calling you a racist.

Go figure, huh...