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  • #46
    Julie, Weiner is apparently quite active and yes he and Huma have been seen out on the town for dinner and at weddings. He does op eds now and then for local papers and is trying to open a healthy foods restaurant. But that aside, your point is well taken. Hillary is not going to let her emails to Huma go public. Decent of Hillary not to toss her out when her husband's naughty Tweets went public, and for her to stick by her husband is commendable.
    To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato

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    • #47
      also given the fact that Republican oppos don't seem to be going crazy right now, this would indicate that there's really not a lot of meat to be found here. there was a half-hearted attempt to link this to Benghazi but her e-mails on the subject were duly turned over...no surprises.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/us...-concerns.html
      There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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      • #48
        yeah, this affair mostly serves as a cautionary tale in how to handle off-the-grid e-mails. Back to the good old telephone where conversations evaporate into thin air legally.

        Still, this episode will be added to the list of Hillary 'lies' whether deserved or not, creating a nugget of doubt in some voters' minds.
        To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato

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        • #49
          Originally posted by astralis View Post
          also given the fact that Republican oppos don't seem to be going crazy right now, this would indicate that there's really not a lot of meat to be found here. there was a half-hearted attempt to link this to Benghazi but her e-mails on the subject were duly turned over...no surprises.

          http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/us...-concerns.html
          Actually the fact there is not a lot of meat to found is an indictment of her. Anticipatory obstruction of Justice... really hope she gets hammered by Congress even though the Justice Department will quash any actions by US Attorneys to bring criminal charges on what would be an open and shut case.

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          • #50
            Anticipatory obstruction of Justice....really?


            Direct quote:

            Prosecutors charging violations of Section 1519 must still establish both of the following:

            The accused knowingly directed the obstructive act to affect an issue or matter within the jurisdiction of any U.S. department or agency.

            The accused acted at least “in relation to” or “in contemplation’” of such issue or matter.


            Good luck with that.

            A conviction of treason is easier to find.
            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
            Mark Twain

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            • #51
              Now for Russia and the Uranium issue....hmmm....Benghazi may look like a Sunday picnic compared to what was really on those personal e-mails.

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              • #52
                over $100 million for Bill Clinton in "speaking fees" since 2001. fees doubling and tripling since Hillary became sec state. just beyond the pale. the Clinton's are out doing the PRC leadership in questionable business and personal transactions.

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                • #53
                  Benghazi is code for birther . . . the longer the right wing nuts stay focused on that issue, the less time HRC and her team will have to spend on countering any meaningful opposition.
                  Trust me?
                  I'm an economist!

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                  • #54
                    It's all appearances, but they count for a lot in politics. Looks like another email fiasco brewing now with Russians hacking into Obama's unclassified emails.

                    Dor, Benghazi is not another code word for birther. It's a legitimate issue for Congressional investigation, perhaps overworked, but that's politics. Congress never took up the birther issue. Besides if the shoe was on the other foot, the Dems would have milked Benghazi for all it was worth.
                    To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato

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                    • #55
                      There is a term "conflict of interest," and laws in effect to avoid such conflicts of interest. Many potential candidates have removed themselves from Boards of companies because it is a "conflict of interest" to remain in such positions with those companies, while seeking office. The position of Secretary of State is a high position, and it seems that the Clintons carried on with business as usual. Now either the Clintons are complete idiots in believing they had done nothing wrong, or they believe they are above the law.

                      Senator Mendez in New Jersey has just been indicted for about the same in comparison. The Governor in Virginia was prosecuted for less.

                      Am I wrong?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by JAD_333 View Post
                        It's all appearances, but they count for a lot in politics. Looks like another email fiasco brewing now with Russians hacking into Obama's unclassified emails.

                        Dor, Benghazi is not another code word for birther. It's a legitimate issue for Congressional investigation, perhaps overworked, but that's politics. Congress never took up the birther issue. Besides if the shoe was on the other foot, the Dems would have milked Benghazi for all it was worth.
                        JAD, all appearances, seriously? A $500,000 speech in Moscow?

                        Let's think about it this way. IF this wasn't Bill and Hillary Clinton, and was instead Senator Menendez, how many years and how many counts do you think the DA will be going for?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Julie View Post
                          Senator Mendez in New Jersey has just been indicted for about the same in comparison. The Governor in Virginia was prosecuted for less.

                          Am I wrong?
                          Julie, my thoughts exactly. Menendez was indited for a few million worth of campaign contributions to help his friend import girlfriends from South America. Clinton has $100 million dollars for, among other things, helping the Russian government buy up control to 20% of US uranium mining. Not even to CGI, which got much, much more. $100 million for Bill directly.

                          It's not a bribe if he gives a speech.... sure.

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                          • #58
                            Lots o smoke and the fire would be in those e-mails. 3-1 nothing happens about it. They should subpoena Bill's e-mails. ;)

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Julie View Post
                              Lots o smoke and the fire would be in those e-mails. 3-1 nothing happens about it. They should subpoena Bill's e-mails. ;)
                              Even if emails were incriminating as hell, I would be surprised if charges are filed. For Bill and Hillary it's plausible deniability while in office, plausible legality while out of office. :)

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                              • #60
                                So that reset button Hillary had in her hand costed us $100 million. Wonderful. She is a champion alright.

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