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  • Originally posted by astralis View Post
    it is very true that demographics aren't destiny.

    but to ensure that your respective party is on the right side of demographic change requires an understanding of motivating factors and of the voters themselves. how you tailor the message, etc.

    Goldwater killed the idea of widespread black Republicanism by associating himself with "states' rights", which for him meant greater freedom from the federal government but for many blacks meant embracing racist state governments.

    similarly the collapse of Asian-American and Hispanic support throughout the 2000s, along with support from the young (hard to believe now, but 18-24 year old voters were equally for Bush and Gore). none of these demographics have shifted in any significant sense back to the Republicans...because Republicans aren't targeting them to any extent.

    Trump's victory was in essence a double-down of previous strategies. his record unpopularity-- at the start!-- may very well sully the GOP brand for a significant time to come, just like Dubya did for an entire generation of Millennials. he is now the defacto leader of the GOP, and his Congressional allies aren't notably trying to appeal to all of the groups mentioned in the GOP autopsy report from 2012, either.

    i expect the GOP will change to compete for these groups later; the issue is that their current base isn't really interested in it, and there will be aspects of victory disease mixed in now too. i don't think it's a real stretch to say that the GOP will continue to have significant problems with appealing to groups outside their own shrinking demographic base for some time to come.

    there was a very interesting New Yorker (long) interview with Obama regarding what comes next for Dems, etc. this bit stuck out to me.
    hardly anyone can remember the last time dem was that bad. obama's dad wasnt even born yet.

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    • Has this thread come to the end of the line?

      Is it time to open a new thread covering, say, "Trump: The first 100 days"?

      Suggestions, anyone?
      To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato

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      • Yes.

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        • How about "The last 30 days, The temper tantrums of Obama, who just doesn't give a shit anymore" as the thread title?


          Obama Appoints Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal’s Attorney To Civil Rights Commission

          http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/12/16...hts-commission


          Dershowitz: 'Appalling' Obama 'Stabbed Israel in Back' With UN Abstention

          http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/2...el-settlements


          Or it could be titled "Oabma shows true colors"
          Last edited by YellowFever; 28 Dec 16,, 06:10.

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          • Originally posted by JAD_333 View Post
            Has this thread come to the end of the line?

            Is it time to open a new thread covering, say, "Trump: The first 100 days"?

            Suggestions, anyone?
            Well there was Merrill's Marauders, The Dirty Dozen and Hogan's Heros so why not Trump's Tweets since that is the way he is going to conduct business.

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            • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
              Well there was Merrill's Marauders, The Dirty Dozen and Hogan's Heros so why not Trump's Tweets since that is the way he is going to conduct business.
              Only 12 days during 2016 he wasn't using exclamation mark. That's a lot of stress even without being POTUS
              No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

              To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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              • Originally posted by YellowFever View Post
                How about "The last 30 days, The temper tantrums of Obama, who just doesn't give a shit anymore" as the thread title?


                Obama Appoints Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamalís Attorney To Civil Rights Commission

                http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/12/16...hts-commission


                Dershowitz: 'Appalling' Obama 'Stabbed Israel in Back' With UN Abstention

                http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/2...el-settlements


                Or it could be titled "Oabma shows true colors"
                Since when did an accused cop killer lose his right to be represented in court?
                And, since when is a single court case more important than an entire career?
                Trust me?
                I'm an economist!

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                • Originally posted by DOR View Post
                  Since when did an accused cop killer lose his right to be represented in court?
                  And, since when is a single court case more important than an entire career?
                  When that single court case has Debo Adegbile accusing the court system of racism to defend a vicious cop killer.

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                  • Originally posted by Doktor View Post
                    Only 12 days during 2016 he wasn't using exclamation mark. That's a lot of stress even without being POTUS
                    Doing my best to disregard the many inflammatory President O statements and roadblocks.Thought it was going to be a smooth transition - NOT!
                    Your right. Ah, a true professional - NOT!

                    Hey, look at that. These Trump impressions are easy!

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                    • Originally posted by JAD_333 View Post
                      Has this thread come to the end of the line?

                      Is it time to open a new thread covering, say, "Trump: The first 100 days"?

                      Suggestions, anyone?
                      Yup, beyond all expectation the Demo(graphic)crat Death Star has been destroyed, but the rebels are still fractured and disorganised and Darth Clinton and Obama Sidious still have many tricks up their sleeves.
                      I suggest calling it
                      Episode II:

                      The Empire Doubles Down.
                      Last edited by Parihaka; 28 Dec 16,, 21:28.
                      In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

                      Leibniz

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                      • S'OK.

                        The Trump will build a new one...

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                        • Originally posted by Parihaka View Post
                          Yup, beyond all expectation the Demo(graphic)crat Death Star has been destroyed, but the rebels are still fractured and disorganised and Darth Clinton and Obama Sidious still have many tricks up their sleeves.
                          I suggest calling it
                          Episode II:

                          The Empire Doubles Down.
                          hmmm...perhaps something a tad less galactic... ;-
                          To be Truly ignorant, Man requires an Education - Plato

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                          • Obammmmma is seriously accusing Putin of election hacking ,,,going out with a bang and leaving Trump a pile to clear up .

                            Whistle the good the bad n the yellafever when reading below , hohum .

                            OBAMA Prods the Russians again..
                            LIBTARD MENTALITY
                            1, Piss of the Russians and hopefully spark a war situation
                            2, Obama can declare a state of Emergency, maybe DEFCON (Defence condition) 2 and he and his Liberal Democrat Establishment cockroaches can stay in the White house for the foreseeable ????
                            3, Scupper Trump and hail himself as a hero
                            Stupid f***ing Liberals may just inadvertently spark DEFCON 1. hopefully the Russians will keep their cool for 3 more weeks
                            Of course this is all supposition !!!
                            Last edited by tankie; 29 Dec 16,, 23:51.

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                            • So, you think (a) the Russians are innocent, based on superior knowledge to that available to the POTUS; or (b) it's no big deal if the Russians hack a US election (pure speculation follows) provided that you personally like the outcome.

                              Care to enlighten us as to which it might be?
                              Trust me?
                              I'm an economist!

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                              • How. Did. Russia. Hack. The. ELECTION??????

                                I keep asking this and I never got an answer.

                                Is this like the global warming debate?

                                Where you argue that it's man made and the other side argues that it's not man made and then all of a sudden you come back with a "Well now that the debate is settled, what we do about it?"

                                Once again:

                                How. Did. Russia. Hack. The. ELECTION??????

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