Indian diplomat arrested in NYC

[Officer of Engineers]

Anil, let me get this straight. Are you arguing for the right of Indian diplomats to break the host country's laws as they see fit?

[Minskaya]

The american courts can serve her as they want for her crimes but don't expect the indian govt to respect diplomatic rights of US workers in india from this point on. These rights have just been thrown out the window.

It wasn't that long ago the India herself was at the center of a diplomatic immunity tiff...

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[cdude]

Bullshit! She got paid better and received better benefits than most people would have got. Or there could be no trickery involved just a difference of opinion of how benefits were derived. For example, if maid got free board and food and etc, that could be part of the minimum wage. After all, finding housing and food in NYC is very expensive

It aint matter how much better she got paid than her Indian counterparts in India. In NYC with an H1B guest worker visa, pay the required salary you showed to the immigration officer. If the diplomat hired the maid from NYC, it's a very minor offense. But she applied visa for her with false salary statement, that's human trafficking.

And for H1B guest workers, laws require they get paid the amount through W-2. Aint matter how much "perks" you throw on them. This case is exactly the reason why. Otherwise why not pay your maid 5 bucks a month? After all, you could argue the boarding and food are worth more than $4500 before tax.

Funny. Why don't you say the same things for your brethren? After all, don't bring in goods produced by slave labor or forced labor. You are just full of hogwash.

LOL

[zraver]

zraver, its not a game of words. The american govt just arrested an indian govt official serving on a budget.

You're right its not a game of words. Diplomatic Immunity is restricted to a very select class of people via treaty by design. Consular officials are not diplomats.

The american courts can serve her as they want for her crimes but don't expect the indian govt to respect diplomatic rights of US workers in india from this point on. These rights have just been thrown out the window.

India had better respect the rights of credentialed diplomats and protected diplomatic staff and families... This chick though was not a diplomat.

[Tronic]

The maid is a victim of human trafficking.

Easy to throw around such terms... Try elaborating.. Forced servitude? Bonded labour?

There is trickery all right. The diplomat tricked the US immigration officer in her false visa application for the maid.

Zraver was clearly implying that the maid was 'tricked', not the US immigration officers.. That's what I was responding to.

Nobody cares how business is conducted in India. Don't bring that into the US. Be it a diplomat or a company.

Ever see me defending this lady? What exactly is your point in telling me this?

[Tronic]

And for H1B guest workers, laws require they get paid the amount through W-2.

It's already been pointed out to you before, but you seem to have missed it. The Visa is an A3 visa, not H1B...

[Tronic]

The housekeeper was on an A3 diplomat visa? What?

Visas for Diplomats and Foreign Government Officials

Yes.

'The A-3 nonimmigrant visa allows the personal attendants, employees or servants of the principal A-1 or A-2 visa holders and the immediate family members of principal A-3 visa holders to enter into the U.S.'

All About A-3 Visa - Your Immigration Questions Answered by VisaPro

[cdude]

Yes.

'The A-3 nonimmigrant visa allows the personal attendants, employees or servants of the principal A-1 or A-2 visa holders and the immediate family members of principal A-3 visa holders to enter into the U.S.'

All About A-3 Visa - Your Immigration Questions Answered by VisaPro

I am not aware of that. So what's the minimum salary for an A-3?

[Tronic]

I am not aware of that. So what's the minimum salary for an A-3?

You know the answer to that...

[zraver]

You know the answer to that...

Minimum $7.25 hour in direct compensation not including benefits on the federal level. Regardless the VISa application said $4500 month salary and that is what is owed. If the amount was a lie its human trafficking.

[Blademaster]

She wasn't working for the GOI but an employer in the US, therefore, subject to American laws.

No she is working for GoI. Deputy Consular General is a government position in the GoI.

[Blademaster]

She was a worker in America and this entitled to the legal protections of our system.

13th Amendment section 1- Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Under US law human trafficking and wage slavery violates the 13th.

Bullshit. You are going in extreme and calling it human trafficking and wage slavery. If I had a dime for every time Americans exploit the workers but claim it was not wage slavery or human trafficking, I would be wish. You are just moving the goalposts to serve your purpose.

[Blademaster]

It aint matter how much better she got paid than her Indian counterparts in India. In NYC with an H1B guest worker visa, pay the required salary you showed to the immigration officer. If the diplomat hired the maid from NYC, it's a very minor offense. But she applied visa for her with false salary statement, that's human trafficking.

And for H1B guest workers, laws require they get paid the amount through W-2. Aint matter how much "perks" you throw on them. This case is exactly the reason why. Otherwise why not pay your maid 5 bucks a month? After all, you could argue the boarding and food are worth more than $4500 before tax.



LOL

Ok then why doesn't your government issue certificates that most of its products that it sells to US are not made with slave labor or forced labor? You can't because the certificates would be lies.

[cdude]

Bullshit. You are going in extreme and calling it human trafficking and wage slavery. If I had a dime for every time Americans exploit the workers but claim it was not wage slavery or human trafficking, I would be wish. You are just moving the goalposts to serve your purpose.

Very few Americans did the actual paper work to sneak illegal workers into this country. In this case, the diplomat did a 2 in 1.

False equivalency.

[zraver]

Bullshit. You are going in extreme and calling it human trafficking and wage slavery. If I had a dime for every time Americans exploit the workers but claim it was not wage slavery or human trafficking, I would be wish. You are just moving the goalposts to serve your purpose.

$500 a month on 200 hours of work per month (assuming she only worked 200 hours and no over time) equals $2.50 an hour which is 1/3 the minimum wage. That is wage slavery. Its not a moving goal post.