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  • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Don't you get it? She pissed somebody off.
    Yeah and in doing so, that person just pissed off GoI. Not a good way of sending a message.

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    • Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
      US doesn't fall under that category of class protected from discrimination. Besides it is foreign government to foreign government
      But an American Councilor is not a full diplomat and therefore, would be subject to discrimination based upon his nationality. Let me rephrase. Does IBM need to start paying their workers in India American wages?

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      • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
        A quick google on Sangeeta Richard showed that she was gone as of June and it was only after India filed charges and request extradition that the US found her and got the story.

        Kobragade did not file a Missing Person with the NYPD. She used her own links in India to get her maid deported ... and got bitten in the ass.

        This is the type of person the pro-Kobragade is defending?

        I would have thrown the book at her.
        SOP when a maid absconds is to inform the authorities.

        But given Kobraghade's position was compromised her options were limited. How an extradition request helps in this case isn't clear. Extradition means crimes were committed earlier in India by this maid, a bit unlikely.

        It's just a comedy of errors compounding. All she had to do was pack the maid off back to India if it was not working out. Exercise the ultimate power an employer has to terminate employment. The maid became a flight risk which was missed and then it was too late.
        Last edited by Double Edge; 17 Dec 13,, 17:08.

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        • Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
          Yeah and in doing so, that person just pissed off GoI. Not a good way of sending a message.
          I am going to get blasted for this. I'll bet you a bag of cheetos that it's a woman Khobragade pissed off.

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          • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
            She should have done that, SOP when a maid absconds is to inform the authorities.

            But given her position was compromised her options were limited.
            She also knew that Richard had voluntarily run away. It's not like she'd been kidnapped. And as I said before, Richard broke US law when she ran away too.

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            • Originally posted by Firestorm View Post
              She also knew that Richard had voluntarily run away. It's not like she'd been kidnapped. And as I said before, Richard broke US law when she ran away too.
              Double strike against Khobragade. Failure to report a felony.

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              • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                Double strike against Khobragade. Failure to report a felony.
                Sure. But why is the person who committed it not in handcuffs?

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                • Originally posted by Firestorm View Post
                  Sure. But why is the person who committed it not in handcuffs?
                  She is. She's in custody awaiting an Extradition Hearing.

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                  • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                    It's just a comedy of errors compounding. All she had to do was pack the maid off back to India if it was not working out. Exercise the ultimate power an employer has to terminate employment. The maid became a flight risk which was missed and then it was too late.
                    But this kind of treatment? It's not like this has not happened before? Twice before with this consulate in fact but the strip search? That's new and it was ordered from higher ups. She pissed off somebody else who was looking for payback.

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                    • Regarding the extradition request...

                      An important fact in this case, which the US court cannot disregard, is that Khobragade had registered a complaint in a New Delhi court earlier this year against her domestic help Sangeeta Richard after she was harassed by the maid with demands for more money. Khobragade got a boost when a court in Delhi issued a non-bailable arrest warrant against Richard. In September this year the Delhi High Court issued an injunction restraining the maid from instituting any action or proceedings against Khobragade outside India. Sadly, the US authorities have ignored this important side of the story.
                      The maid wanted to work weekends elsewhere which would have violated the visa.

                      She should have packed her off earlier...
                      Last edited by Double Edge; 17 Dec 13,, 17:24.

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                      • The Delhi Police removed security barricades from outside the sprawling US embassy in the capital today, as a furious India retaliated with a slew of measures to pare down the privileges of American diplomats after details of the arrest of its diplomat Devyani Khobragade in New York last week became public. (Pics: Delhi Police removes barricades outside US embassy)

                        US diplomats in consulates across India have been asked to surrender identity cards issued to them and their families, which entitle them to special privileges including diplomatic immunity. India has also withdrawn all airport passes for consulates and import clearances for the embassy.

                        As part of its reciprocal measures, India is asking for details like salaries paid to Indian staff employed in US consulates, including those working as domestic helps with the families of American officials. Officials say US consulates in India are US territory so Indian workers there should be paid American wages.

                        New Delhi has also asked for the visa details of all teachers at US schools, details of their salary and their bank accounts to determine if they pay taxes.
                        Diplomat Devyani Khobragade's arrest: India acts tough with US, takes tit-for-tat measures | NDTV.com

                        What next, show standard procedures of Delhi/Haryana Police ?

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                        • Am I reading this right?

                          Khobragade went to an Indian Court to stop Richards from getting her American rights in the US.

                          The Indian Court issued an arrest warrant for a labour dispute.

                          The Indian Court also forbade Richards from seeking American legal actions against Khobragade in the United States.

                          On what planet is this Indian Court on? I forbid you to seek legal help.

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                          • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                            Am I reading this right?

                            Khobragade went to an Indian Court to stop Richards from getting her American rights in the US.

                            The Indian Court issued an arrest warrant for a labour dispute.
                            It would seem that Khobragade was unable to terminate her employment. The maid absconded. So Khobragade filed a case against her. The Delhi court turned the maid into a fugitive of India hence the extradition request.

                            This means maid's chances of getting asylum in the US increase.

                            Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                            The Indian Court also forbade Richards from seeking American legal actions against Khobragade in the United States.

                            On what planet is this Indian Court on? I forbid you to seek legal help.
                            Cannot explain the underlined bit.
                            Last edited by Double Edge; 17 Dec 13,, 17:43.

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                              • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                                Am I reading this right?

                                Khobragade went to an Indian Court to stop Richards from getting her American rights in the US.

                                The Indian Court issued an arrest warrant for a labour dispute.

                                The Indian Court also forbade Richards from seeking American legal actions against Khobragade in the United States.

                                On what planet is this Indian Court on? I forbid you to seek legal help.
                                It is about establishing jurisdiction. Richards can still go ahead and get legal help but any monetary award she gets in US will be offset by the punishment in India.

                                The court can issue an arrest warrant if they find the defendant in contempt. Apparently they found her to be in contempt. Yes the court can forbid an Indian citizen from pursuing legal action if it is found to be impeding against Indian sovereignty or involving a foreign government in an internal Indian matter.

                                So if Richards tries to collect money from Khobragade and the Indian court can re-issue an arrest warrant notice and fines. Tit for tat.

                                Richards could have defended herself in Indian courts but she didn't. She'd rather do it in America courts, thus imposing American jurisdiction over an internal Indian matter. That is what Indian courts found intolerable.

                                See here from a link posted above:

                                An important fact in this case, which the US court cannot disregard, is that Khobragade had registered a complaint in a New Delhi court earlier this year against her domestic help Sangeeta Richard after she was harassed by the maid with demands for more money. Khobragade got a boost when a court in Delhi issued a non-bailable arrest warrant against Richard. In September this year the Delhi High Court issued an injunction restraining the maid from instituting any action or proceedings against Khobragade outside India. Sadly, the US authorities have ignored this important side of the story.
                                Notice this is the Delhi High Court, the second most powerful court in India after the Supreme Court. You can bet your bottom dollar that they solely view this entire matter as an internal matter not to be interfered by an outside power. Now an Indian diplomat got arrested and strip searched, I can guarantee you that the Indian courts will show no amount of leniency and apply the full extent of the law. They will not stand for the idea that Indian sovereignty can be easily abrogated.

                                Richards had full rights in the Indian system but she refused to follow the Indian system and chose to follow the American system.

                                The American court will do the same thing that the Indian court did.
                                Last edited by Blademaster; 17 Dec 13,, 21:29.

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