Originally posted by astralis
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consider how unpopular the ACA has been even when majorities agree with its precepts
We all agree with certain precepts; it's the methodology that's unpopular.
that would not be the same for revolutionizing medicare or SS; republican ideas for turning medicare into a voucher system and privatizing SS have been deeply unpopular, to say the least.
it's quite possible that the establishment get some semblance of control, which in fact it's busy trying to do now. note how quiet Ted Cruz has been lately, or how the Republicans aren't champing at the bit for another round of government shutdown.
(The thread I started on the GOP 'demise' is a better place to discuss this. So, I'll keep my replies to a minimum.)
Cruz control. :) After he encouraged a couple of big name conservative PACs to attack his fellow senate conservative while he was filibustering, he was handed his head. Since then he's been mending fences. He's learning you can't have big ambitions and alienate your fellow Senate conservatives.
No one wants another shutdown. Ryan and his Senate counterpart are making progress toward a compromise to avoid one and clear the way for raising the debt ceiling.
yes, tactical in nature, but this combined with what some business groups are doing to eliminate the crazier ones, will cause some moderation.
Part of the reason the Tea Party isn't getting its message out, is just what you say. Some of the Tea Party members in Congress sound a little nuts. If the Tea Party wants to have a referendum on its vision, it has to tone down them down.
you simply can't negotiate if the other side doesn't have the authority or the discipline to impose that compromise.
the tide is not moving right in the electorate as a whole any more, but rather in the GOP...and even there i think we're bumping against the limits. but we've discussed this issue at length before.
The tide has no where to go but right. The party will follow. For the Tea Party philosophy to make progress, the specter of increasing deficits and a growing debt has to loom large.
The ACA will be impacted by a GOP hat trick, but I don't think it will ever be entirely scrapped. Everyone likes some parts of it.
i think it's important to point out that the ACA will increase costs in some areas while lowering costs in others. over the long-term i expect the ACA to reduce overall healthcare spending as we saw in the case of switzerland.
Switzerland? Didn't once tell me it's not a good example of the ACA?
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