Obama knew millions could not keep their health insurance

[citanon]

I just want to thank any of you idiots who voted for this moron, not ONCE, but TWICE.

Seriously.

[astralis]

Obama said you can keep your plan: An unwise promise that the president was right to break.

[Parihaka]

Obama said you can keep your plan: An unwise promise that the president was right to break.

Ah of course. Under the old system the insurance companies never actually paid out.

[JAD_333]

so was i.

private policies can't be reinstated unless the law is changed, it was specifically done to prevent grandfathering in of private policies.

I question that. Obama's promise would have been exposed as obviously false from the gitgo. It implied grandfathering. Rule writers forced private health care providers to expand coverage.

to allow, what is it now, millions of people? with canceled policies to get them back would be a huge chunk of cash that the ACA is not getting any more.

How does the ACA get a cut of premiums paid for private insurance?

[JAD_333]

Obama said you can keep your plan: An unwise promise that the president was right to break.

So, in 2008 at the height of the ACA battle, focus groups convinced Obama he should 'lie' to Americans to get the ACA passed and that's ok because it worked? Words fail...

[Julie]

All of these "other" people I am helping with their maternity care, do you think they would all like to contribute to my daughter's college tuition? Probably not. Over 3 grand a year I have to now find and come up with for tuition. I did not expect this since I was told my policy would be safe. Again, thank you, thank you very much.

[astralis]

JAD,

So, in 2008 at the height of the ACA battle, focus groups convinced Obama he should 'lie' to Americans to get the ACA passed and that's ok because it worked? Words fail...

politicians listen to polls and tell people what they want to hear? i'm shocked, shocked i tell you...

anyhow, healthcare costs ultimately need to be borne by -someone-. as US law prevents hospitals from throwing people out of the ER, the US taxpayer is already bearing these costs. maternity care for the poor? where do people think the funds for when poor pregnant women run to the ER is coming from?

the ACA ultimately acts to front-load many of these costs onto heathcare insurance vice healthcare, and to turn previously hidden costs into more tangible ones.

[dalem]

You are not paying for maternity care. You are paying for an umbrella of medical services that also includes maternity care. Guess what? That umbrella also covers other services and ancillary services commonly seen for taking care of seniors' medical needs.

I'm not f*cking your vagina. I am f*cking an umbrella of orifices that also includes your vagina. Guess what? That umbrella also covers other orifices and ancillary landing points commonly used for my seed. And waffles.

-dale

[Blademaster]

I'm not f*cking your vagina. I am f*cking an umbrella of orifices that also includes your vagina. Guess what? That umbrella also covers other orifices and ancillary landing points commonly used for my seed. And waffles.

-dale

Then don't ever ask for medical services when you are sick and dying of diseases and whatnot. You better pay the piper's bill before you receive any services. You can die out on the street for all I care and the dogs and maggots can eat up your remains.

That is basically what you want to happen.

[dalem]

Then don't ever ask for medical services when you are sick and dying of diseases and whatnot. You better pay the piper's bill before you receive any services. You can die out on the street for all I care and the dogs and maggots can eat up your remains.

That is basically what you want to happen.

All I did was draw attention to the fact that you said "You're not paying for maternity care, you're paying for maternity care", and now I'm the guy who should die in the street?

-dale

[Blademaster]

All I did was draw attention to the fact that you said "You're not paying for maternity care, you're paying for maternity care", and now I'm the guy who should die in the street?

-dale

Guess again. Your post was borderline trolling and the aim of your post was very obvious. You decided to engage in non-sequitur arguments and I just gave you a counter non sequitur argument.

[dalem]

Guess again. Your post was borderline trolling

Why?

and the aim of your post was very obvious.

What was my aim then?

You decided to engage in non-sequitur arguments and I just gave you a counter non sequitur argument.

In my previous post I just showed how my post was super-sequitur. Then you went & got all maggoty.

-dale

[Captain Worley]

This is just the tip of the iceberg with policy cancellations. The only ones affected so far are those who buy their own insirance.

Wait until the employer mandate kicks in. Millions more folks will be notified that their policies aren't meeting ACA and will be cancelled. For a lot of folks, this will occur in October 2014.

The month before mid terms.

Any wonder the (D)s are scrambling to make "if you like your policy, you can keep it" a reality?

[TopHatter]

Why?

What was my aim then?

In my previous post I just showed how my post was super-sequitur. Then you went & got all maggoty.

-dale

Yeah that was trolling. I'm hardly a shrinking violet but that post was just dripping with venom.

[TopHatter]

This is just the tip of the iceberg with policy cancellations.

Agreed. And the outrage will continue to grow and grow. Hell, when Bill Clinton (admittedly no fan of Obama) publicly calls the President out on his bullshit, you know you've got problems.