Obama knew millions could not keep their health insurance

[Parihaka]

3 years for rollout and the best they can come up with is 'it's the subies fault'?
Obamacare official apologizes for website glitches | Reuters
IT professionals all over the world are snorting coffee out their noses

[JAD_333]

3 years for rollout and the best they can come up with is 'it's the subies fault'?
Obamacare official apologizes for website glitches | Reuters
IT professionals all over the world are snorting coffee out their noses

Lovely image... Of course, it's always the sub's fault. :) My line of business is not much different than any other when it comes to using subs. I've observed that most incompetent subs get that way because they aren't given the right specs, proper guidance and close oversight. Sure, they had 3 years to get it right, but if the bosses keep noodling the regs right down to D-day, you get a turkey with two heads and no legs.

[Captain Worley]

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) -
About a month ago, attorney Tom Dougall logged on to healthcare.gov to browse for cheaper insurance for him and his wife.

On Friday, the last thing he expected to hear on his voicemail was a man from North Carolina who says he can access all of Tom's personal information.

Dougall says he thought it was a scam until he realized his privacy had been breached.

"I believe somehow the ACA, the Healthcare website has sent me your information, is what it looks like," said Justin, a North Carolina man who could access Tom's information on healthcare.gov. "I think there's a problem with the wrong information getting to the wrong people."

Midlands man has personal information compromised on ACA website - wistv.com - Columbia, South Carolina |

[Captain Worley]

Looks like cancellations are far outnumbering folks who signed up....

MyCancellation.com

[kato]

Can't make a tally for that until Oct 1st 2014.

[Norseman]

A European view on Obamacare.

I am not an expert on American domestic politics, but to me it seems as if Obamacare was not written by the Democrats , the law was written by the companies that sell health insurance.

Health insurance companies are going to make a fortune on Obamacare , the federal government is going to make a fortune on the penalty tax and those who are going to lose on Obamacare is the middle class and the poor.

I understand why politicians from the Republican Party is doing what they can to fight against Obamacare . But maybe they should let Obama and the Democrats get their Obamacare completed. The legislation is based on the IT system that runs it and the inflated prices people now have to pay, is guarantee enough that it collapses before the going gets underway .

Most of all , I am sure that Obamacare is being used as an excuse for making a huge political theater where ReBUUUHblicans and DUMBocrats pretend they are fighting each other and then at the 11 hour makes a compromise and nests U.S. from economic collapse . Afterwards, they can pat themselves on the back and tell you how heroic they were facing voters. And the only thing that happens is that the U.S. can become more indebted and continue on the route directly to the inevitable economic collapse.

[Wooglin]

Looks like cancellations are far outnumbering folks who signed up....

MyCancellation.com

Have you seen the premium quotes these people are getting to replace their cancelled plans?

I'm particularly amused by this one: http://mycancellation.com/post/66193254665

"In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year"... or raise them 100% to 300%, same difference.

[Julie]

This is the biggest distribution of wealth ever I've seen. I'm going to have to pay for maternity care and I'm 52 and can no longer have children. My premium increase per month is $257.00, and I can't imagine how I'm going to budget that. In the meantime, I hope I don't have a recurrence of cancer (which I beat in 1992), or I will have to travel 67 miles away for treatment.

The young and healthy are going to pay the $99.00 yearly penalty, and the poverty and stricken are going to sign up for the insurance. It's already happening.

I just want to thank any of you idiots who voted for this moron, not ONCE, but TWICE.

[JAD_333]

This is the biggest distribution of wealth ever I've seen. I'm going to have to pay for maternity care and I'm 52 and can no longer have children. My premium increase per month is $257.00, and I can't imagine how I'm going to budget that. In the meantime, I hope I don't have a recurrence of cancer (which I beat in 1992), or I will have to travel 67 miles away for treatment.

The young and healthy are going to pay the $99.00 yearly penalty, and the poverty and stricken are going to sign up for the insurance. It's already happening.

I just want to thank any of you idiots who voted for this moron, not ONCE, but TWICE.

Julie:

Sorry to hear you're one of the many people losing their policy. There's talk of rewinding the tape and rescinding the cancellations. For your sake I hope they do.

[JAD_333]

A sample of what's driving sentiment. Others urge patience.

Lies, consequences and Obamacare - chicagotribune.com

[bfng3569]

Julie:

Sorry to hear you're one of the many people losing their policy. There's talk of rewinding the tape and rescinding the cancellations. For your sake I hope they do.

i thought I heard that legally they couldn't if they wanted too.

as well as the fact that doing so would destroy the ACA, by not forcing millions of people to sign up for it?

[JAD_333]

i thought I heard that legally they couldn't if they wanted too.

as well as the fact that doing so would destroy the ACA, by not forcing millions of people to sign up for it?

We're talking about private policies, not those bought through the exchanges.

[Blademaster]

This is the biggest distribution of wealth ever I've seen. I'm going to have to pay for maternity care and I'm 52 and can no longer have children. My premium increase per month is $257.00, and I can't imagine how I'm going to budget that. In the meantime, I hope I don't have a recurrence of cancer (which I beat in 1992), or I will have to travel 67 miles away for treatment.

The young and healthy are going to pay the $99.00 yearly penalty, and the poverty and stricken are going to sign up for the insurance. It's already happening.

I just want to thank any of you idiots who voted for this moron, not ONCE, but TWICE.

You are not paying for maternity care. You are paying for an umbrella of medical services that also includes maternity care. Guess what? That umbrella also covers other services and ancillary services commonly seen for taking care of seniors' medical needs.

As you age, your medical costs is gonna go up because your body will require more medical attention and that is a fact of life. yes the poverty and stricken are going to sign up for the insurance because it helps those hospital to recover those medical costs from the care that they had to provide to the poor and stricken which in the past that they had to eat up. I could sit down all day and regale you with stories of how poor people with no insurance would bilk out millions of dollars from hospital ERs knowing that they don't have to pay and clogging up the system and slowing down the level of care and service to those who really need it the most.

[JAD_333]

You are not paying for maternity care. You are paying for an umbrella of medical services that also includes maternity care. Guess what? That umbrella also covers other services and ancillary services commonly seen for taking care of seniors' medical needs.

True. It makes more sense to have a one-policy fits all from an actuarial approach. Seniors won't need maternity care but they'll be paying for the half that do, and conversely young, healthy people won't need geriatric care and they too will be helping to pay for seniors who do. It's supposed to be a wash. But then why did Julie's premiums jump in price? It seems to me her premiums could have stayed the same or been lowered given the influx of new people required to buy insurance.

I could sit down all day and regale you with stories of how poor people with no insurance would bilk out millions of dollars from hospital ERs knowing that they don't have to pay and clogging up the system and slowing down the level of care and service to those who really need it the most.

The hospitals may finally get paid for all those ER visits, but will that lessen the burden on the ER? Little regard is being paid to the effect that new demand will have on supply. After Obamacare the exchanges kick in big time there will be just as many doctors, clinics and hospitals as before, but millions of more people demanding health services. That may correct itself over time, but in the meantime higher demand for existing supply will drive health care costs up, putting a huge, unexpected burden on the government to either raise premiums or increase subsidies.

Interestingly, all the furor over Obamacare isn't dampening the public's approval of it, or at least that segment of the public that needs it most.

Why Obamacare Isn't Losing Popularity Even After A Month Of Really Bad Press | ThinkProgress

[bfng3569]

We're talking about private policies, not those bought through the exchanges.

so was i.

private policies can't be reinstated unless the law is changed, it was specifically done to prevent grandfathering in of private policies.

to allow, what is it now, millions of people? with canceled policies to get them back would be a huge chunk of cash that the ACA is not getting any more.

unless i misunderstood the comment?