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Originally posted by omon View Postunion labor cost alone would be millions, and it absolutely must be union shop working for dept of ed.
that wall in the video is good to stop a truck full of explosives, and has to be some distance away, in case truck blow up. so what are you gonna do, redo entire blocks, demo houses that are too close?? i 'm in costruction for 15+ years, and i can tell you cost would be astronomical. including all factors that are not obvious. not to mention that wall in the video, is what 5-6 feet tall? it can be climbed over by a person easy. it is not a concern for military instalation, since there are machine guns to cut anyone climbing over, but are you gonna do same for schools?? machine gun towers, barbed wire perimeter? k9s? lol, you can't be too protective, right??? you never know who'll attack school.
if schools look like that, i'm gonna keep my kid as far away from such school as possible.
Looks like they are planning to completely tear down the school and rebuild. Taking the most expensive route as it were. If they do this I wonder if they will build a safer school or continue with the old, "easy to break into" designs.
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Originally posted by antimony View PostBarriers that can stop trucks are not necessarily very costly. Retractable bollards come at $500 apiece. Properly installed, a set of bollards can cut a malicious vehicle in half.
that wall in the video is good to stop a truck full of explosives, and has to be some distance away, in case truck blow up. so what are you gonna do, redo entire blocks, demo houses that are too close?? i 'm in costruction for 15+ years, and i can tell you cost would be astronomical. including all factors that are not obvious. not to mention that wall in the video, is what 5-6 feet tall? it can be climbed over by a person easy. it is not a concern for military instalation, since there are machine guns to cut anyone climbing over, but are you gonna do same for schools?? machine gun towers, barbed wire perimeter? k9s? lol, you can't be too protective, right??? you never know who'll attack school.
if schools look like that, i'm gonna keep my kid as far away from such school as possible.Last edited by omon; 24 Apr 13,, 16:36.
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Originally posted by omon View Postawesome,,,,
are we building military grade walls around all schools??? some pages back we argued about security guard salary. iirc
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Originally posted by astralis View Postantimony,
african militias give 6-year old kids AK-47s. so firearms are not that hard to learn to use. yes, hard to become proficient, but not hard to use.
and things such as grips and laser sights make it still easier to achieve basic proficiency.
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Originally posted by McFire View Post
are we building military grade walls around all schools??? some pages back we argued about security guard salary. iirc
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Well, if it's a lack of imagination to not prepare for a team of Rambos repelling in, don't we have to plan for the truck too?
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Originally posted by omon View Postof course truck will go thru wall, especially heavy garbage truck in reverse. there is no way any wall gonna stop determined ppl. the key is to get them before they set the plan to work.
most school shooting was done by the same kids that go to that school, no walls, security, would stop them. one can easy bring gun even in school with metal detectors, i'm not gonna go in details on public forum, how to do it, but it is not hard at all. and if another beslan happens here, it will only be cuz intelligence screw up, just like 9\11 and Boston.
but hey imagination is a wonderful thing, lets imagine that next time aliens will attack school.
Depends on the wall! ;)
Experiment: What happens when a dump truck going 50mph hits a military-grade concrete barrier? [VIDEO]
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of course truck will go thru wall, especially heavy garbage truck in reverse. there is no way any wall gonna stop determined ppl. the key is to get them before they set the plan to work.
most school shooting was done by the same kids that go to that school, no walls, security, would stop them. one can easy bring gun even in school with metal detectors, i'm not gonna go in details on public forum, how to do it, but it is not hard at all. and if another beslan happens here, it will only be cuz intelligence screw up, just like 9\11 and Boston.
but hey imagination is a wonderful thing, lets imagine that next time aliens will attack school.Last edited by omon; 23 Apr 13,, 19:12.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by bonehead View PostAh, dismiss what you don't understand and end up drawing wrong conclusions. Now I know where you are coming from. If you really think such a wall will stop you then clearly you are the one lacking in imagination.
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pari,
Two bombers shut down an entire city even though they could have killed many more with guns. The beltway sniper didn't do that even though he killed many more people.
to put it in another way, chemical weapons are not terribly efficient at killing people but will certainly get everyone's attention. IEDs, especially in the hands of relatively clueless individuals (see these bombers), are the same thing.
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Originally posted by astralis View Postchanyj,
sure, you COULD...but if someone gave you a choice between buying a rifle and using it or building your own bomb to cause those casualties, which do you think would be easier?
With a bomb it's plant-and-run-as-far-as-you-can. There is still a chance of survival. You are committing suicide with the rifle option.
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col yu,
For me, no question. The bombs. When doing room to room fighting, there's a reason why we blow holes in the wall and start chucking grenades.
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