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    In a first, gas and other fuels are top US export - Yahoo! Finance

    In a first, gas and other fuels are top US export
    Big shift for gas-guzzling nation: fuels are top US export; oil imports still world's highest
    Associated PressBy Chris Kahn, AP Energy Writer | AP – 13 minutes ago


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    <p> FILE - In this Nov. 10, 2010 file photo, oil refineries are shown in this aerial view, in Deer Park, Texas. For the first time, the top export of the United States, the world’s biggest gas guzzler, is _ wait for it _ fuel. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip, File)

    FILE - In this Nov. 10, 2010 file photo, oil refineries are shown in this aerial view, in Deer Park, Texas. For the first time, the top export of the United States, the world’s biggest gas guzzler, is _ wait for it _ fuel. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip, File)

    NEW YORK (AP) -- For the first time, the top export of the United States, the world's biggest gas guzzler, is — wait for it — fuel.

    Measured in dollars, the nation is on pace this year to ship more gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel than any other single export, according to U.S. Census data going back to 1990. It will also be the first year in more than 60 that America has been a net exporter of these fuels.

    Just how big of a shift is this? A decade ago, fuel wasn't even among the top 25 exports. And for the last five years, America's top export was aircraft.

    The trend is significant because for decades the U.S. has relied on huge imports of fuel from Europe in order to meet demand. It only reinforced the image of America as an energy hog. And up until a few years ago, whenever gasoline prices climbed, there were complaints in Congress that U.S. refiners were not growing quickly enough to satisfy domestic demand; that controversy would appear to be over.

    Still, the U.S. is nowhere close to energy independence. America is still the world's largest importer of crude oil. From January to October, the country imported 2.7 billion barrels of oil worth roughly $280 billion.

    Fuel exports, worth an estimated $88 billion in 2011, have surged for two reasons:

    — Crude oil, the raw material from which gasoline and other refined products are made, is a lot more expensive. Oil prices averaged $95 a barrel in 2011, while gasoline averaged $3.52 a gallon — a record. A decade ago oil averaged $26 a barrel, while gasoline averaged $1.44 a gallon.

    — The volume of fuel exports is rising. The U.S. is using less fuel because of a weak economy and more efficient cars and trucks. That allows refiners to sell more fuel to rapidly growing economies in Latin America, for example. In 2011, U.S. refiners exported 117 million gallons per day of gasoline, diesel, jet fuel and other petroleum products, up from 40 million gallons per day a decade earlier.

    There's at least one domestic downside to America's growing role as a fuel exporter. Experts say the trend helps explain why U.S. motorists are paying more for gasoline. The more fuel that's sent overseas, the less of a supply cushion there is at home.

    Gasoline supplies are being exported to the highest bidder, says Tom Kloza, chief oil analyst at Oil Price Information Service. "It's a world market," he says.

    Refining companies won't say how much they make by selling fuel overseas. But analysts say those sales are likely generating higher profits per gallon than the fuel sold in the U.S. Otherwise, they wouldn't occur.

    The value of U.S. fuel exports has grown steadily over the past decade, coinciding with rising oil prices and increased demand around the globe.

    Developing countries in Latin America and Asia have been burning more gasoline and diesel as their people buy more cars and build more roads and factories. Europe also has been buying more U.S. fuel to make up for its lack of refineries.

    And there's a simple reason why America's refiners have been eager to export to these markets: gasoline demand in the U.S. has been falling every year since 2007. It dropped by another 2.5 percent in 2011. With the economy struggling, motorists cut back. Also, cars and trucks have become more fuel-efficient and the government mandates the use of more corn-based ethanol fuel.

    The last time the U.S. was a net exporter of fuels was 1949, when Harry Truman was president. That year, the U.S. exported 86 million barrels and imported 82 million barrels. In the first nine months of 2011, the nation exported 753 million barrels and imported 689 million barrels.
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    So, now, US military apparatus will invade USA? :Dancing-Banana:
    No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

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    • #3
      Whatever it takes to keep making us pay top dollar at the pump.
      Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bonehead View Post
        Whatever it takes to keep making us pay top dollar at the pump.
        Compared to most of the world we have nothing to complain about when it comes to gas prices.

        Maybe some of our fellow WABbits could pipe on if they think that $3.26 ($3.54 premium) is expensive for a gallon of gas (US daily avg).
        Last edited by Gun Grape; 31 Dec 11,, 03:13.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gun Grape View Post
          Compared to most of the world we have nothing to complain about when it comes to gas prices.

          Maybe some of our fellow WABbits could pipe on if they think that $3.26 ($3.54 premium) is expensive for a gallon of gas (US daily avg).
          Anything over 2 bucks a gallon we have something to complain about. We have the crude AND we have the refineries so there is no point in padding oil companies bottom line or the pocketbooks of speculators. Lets keep more money in our own pockets for a change. What Europe pays is irrelevant. Apples and oranges.
          Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bonehead View Post
            Anything over 2 bucks a gallon we have something to complain about. We have the crude AND we have the refineries so there is no point in padding oil companies bottom line or the pocketbooks of speculators. Lets keep more money in our own pockets for a change. What Europe pays is irrelevant. Apples and oranges.
            I filled up my little car yesterday and was delighted by the 3.25/gal price - last time it was at least .25/gal more... I replaced my Plymouth Voyager minivan about a year ago, the Ford Focus gets much better milage 30mpg vs 21mpg - full tank avg with the driving I do (less than average for sure, a lot of it in town).
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            • #7
              Originally posted by USSWisconsin View Post
              I filled up my little car yesterday and was delighted by the 3.25/gal price - last time it was at least .25/gal more... I replaced my Plymouth Voyager minivan about a year ago, the Ford Focus gets much better milage 30mpg vs 21mpg - full tank avg with the driving I do (less than average for sure, a lot of it in town).
              I remember when gas was a dollar/gallon. It wasn't "way back then" either. I drove a reworked Honda civic that gave me 50 mpg on the highway. I miss that car when I now have to commute 150 miles a day. Wisconsin, were you delighted the very first time you had to pay 3.25 a gallon? Delighted was not even close to what I felt.

              I can get gas at Costco for 3.12/gal. Manny other local places are still clinging to 3.35 or more. I am keeping my fingers crossed that we can break the psychological barrier of $3.00/gallon.
              Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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              • #8
                Cheapest in Israel, one gas station is selling at 6.75 NIS ($1.77) a liter. Most places sell at 7.11 NIS ($1.86) a liter. That's 26.91 NIS ($7.04) per gallon (US wet) and 32.32 NIS ($8.46) per gallon (Imperial).

                Feeling any better about $3.25 a gallon yet?
                Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bonehead View Post
                  I remember when gas was a dollar/gallon. It wasn't "way back then" either. I drove a reworked Honda civic that gave me 50 mpg on the highway. I miss that car when I now have to commute 150 miles a day. Wisconsin, were you delighted the very first time you had to pay 3.25 a gallon? Delighted was not even close to what I felt.

                  I can get gas at Costco for 3.12/gal. Manny other local places are still clinging to 3.35 or more. I am keeping my fingers crossed that we can break the psychological barrier of $3.00/gallon.
                  Gas started going up a year or so before I started to drive (1975) - thanks to the Arab oil embargo. I remember "gas wars" when I was a young kid, my Mom filling up for .25/gal. When I first filled the tank on the family car, it was about .86/gal. I wasn't very happy when gas got to 3.25 the first time. I remember paying nearly 5$/gal at one point a couple years ago - and I was still commuting to work daily (I work from home mostly these days - globalization and half of my team in India...).

                  At one point I modified a Toyota Corrolla with the 1.2 liter engine and 5 speed OD manual trans (from a later model) - increased compression to about 11:1 and added water methanol injection, increased the timing to 42 deg btdc at full advance -it would knock pretty bad, so added an enrichment circuit to address that - it was too complicated and need constant maintanence - I got about 60mpg with fuel additives-during one test, but coasted down hills and drove slow - not normal driving. I modified a lot of older cars with new timing curves and carburator jets- it was very popular to improve mpg - even by a couple mpg back then. That was before electronic engine controls.
                  Last edited by USSWisconsin; 31 Dec 11,, 19:42.
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                  If your plan is for one hundred years, educate children."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bonehead View Post
                    I remember when gas was ...
                    Don't get Rusty started
                    No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                    To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bigross86 View Post
                      Cheapest in Israel, one gas station is selling at 6.75 NIS ($1.77) a liter. Most places sell at 7.11 NIS ($1.86) a liter. That's 26.91 NIS ($7.04) per gallon (US wet) and 32.32 NIS ($8.46) per gallon (Imperial).

                      Feeling any better about $3.25 a gallon yet?
                      Taxes, import duties, quotas, tariffs...
                      No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                      To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                      • #12
                        That, and the fact that plenty of the oil producing countries in the region hate us...

                        Let me tell you something that we Israelis have against Moses. He took us 40 years through the desert in order to bring us to the one spot in the Middle East that has no oil! - Former Israeli Prime Minster Golda Meir
                        Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

                        Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bigross86 View Post
                          That, and the fact that plenty of the oil producing countries in the region hate us...
                          I thought the oil is bought in London and NY. Broker fees are not 100%.

                          Moses had good PR person, not a geo-strategist one ;)

                          Moses and his flock arrive at the sea, with the Egyptians in hot pursuit.

                          Not knowing how to proceed, Moses calls a staff meeting.

                          "Well, how are we going to get across the sea?" Moses asks. "We need a fast solution. The Egyptians are close behind us."

                          "Normally, I'd recommend that we build a pontoon bridge to carry us across," the General of the Armies says, "but there's not enough time - the Egyptians are too close."

                          "Normally, I'd recommend that we build barges to carry us across," the Admiral of the Navy says, "but time is too short."

                          "Does anyone have a solution?" Moses asks.

                          Just then, his Public Relations man raises his hand.

                          "You!" Moses says, "You have a solution?"

                          "No," the PR man says, "but I can promise you this: If you can find a way out of this one, I can get you two or three full pages in the Old Testament..."
                          No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                          To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by USSWisconsin View Post
                            Gas started going up a year or so before I started to drive (1975) - thanks to the Arab oil embargo. I remember "gas wars" when I was a young kid, my Mom filling up for .25/gal. When I first filled the tank on the family car, it was about .86/gal. I wasn't very happy when gas got to 3.25 the first time. I remember paying nearly 5$/gal at one point a couple years ago - and I was still commuting to work daily (I work from home mostly these days - globalization and half of my team in India...).

                            At one point I modified a Toyota Corrolla with the 1.2 liter engine and 5 speed OD manual trans (from a later model) - increased compression to about 11:1 and added water methanol injection, increased the timing to 42 deg btdc at full advance -it would knock pretty bad, so added an enrichment circuit to address that - it was too complicated and need constant maintanence - I got about 60mpg with fuel additives-during one test, but coasted down hills and drove slow - not normal driving. I modified a lot of older cars with new timing curves and carburator jets- it was very popular to improve mpg - even by a couple mpg back then. That was before electronic engine controls.
                            All I did was have the emissions ripped out, shoehorn a 5 speed where the 4 speed was supposed to be and a quick tune-up. Nowdays you have to be a computer geek and you have to worry about emissions testing in a lot of places. Have to admit the electronic controls are an improvement overall. They are just a pain to do an "end around" on.
                            Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bigross86 View Post
                              Cheapest in Israel, one gas station is selling at 6.75 NIS ($1.77) a liter. Most places sell at 7.11 NIS ($1.86) a liter. That's 26.91 NIS ($7.04) per gallon (US wet) and 32.32 NIS ($8.46) per gallon (Imperial).

                              Feeling any better about $3.25 a gallon yet?
                              No. We have lots of oil and we have refineries. There is no good reason for us to be paying that much.
                              Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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