Southern Border Developments

[Ballguy]

I say we deploy HRT and the majority of all the federal law enforcement special ops teams.

[Horrido]

This is the EXACT situation that militias and the Second Ammendment are for. The citizens of the area need to possy-up, and start killing anyone that crosses that border from the south. Machineguns are no match for precision shooting en masse.

[bonehead]

That sounds like a good mission for our national guard units. Unfortunately, until one of the mexican military drug pushers, dumps a load of pot on Bush's door step for his daughters to party with, GW won't lift a finger. The last time I checked, drugs were not any part of the nafta agreement so the drug smugglers should be delt with by using extreme prejudice. Those basterds should be SHOT ON SIGHT each and every time they cross the border. Bush's inactions on this matter (and our last two president's) are nothing short of criminal.

[ChrisF202]

Armed standoff along U.S. border

http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_3430815

Police face Mexican military, smugglers
Armed standoff along U.S. border
By Sara A. Carter and Kenneth Todd Ruiz, Staff Writers
Inland Valley Daily Bulletin
Mexican soldiers and civilian smugglers had an armed standoff with nearly 30 U.S. law enforcement officials on the Rio Grande in Texas Monday afternoon, according to Texas police and the FBI.


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Mexican military Humvees were towing what appeared to be thousands of pounds of marijuana across the border into the United States, said Chief Deputy Mike Doyal, of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department.

Mexican Army troops had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border -- near Neely's Crossing, about 50 miles east of El Paso -- when Border Patrol agents called for backup. Hudspeth County deputies and Texas Highway patrol officers arrived shortly afterward, Doyal said.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal said. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

An FBI spokeswoman confirmed the incident happened at 2:15 p.m. Pacific Time.

"Bad guys in three vehicles ended up on the border," said Andrea Simmons, a spokeswoman with the FBI's El Paso office. "People with Humvees, who appeared to be with the Mexican Army, were involved with the three vehicles in getting them back across."

Simmons said the FBI was not involved and referred inquiries to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

ICE did not return calls seeking comment.

Doyal said deputies captured one vehicle in the incident, a Cadillac Escalade reportedly stolen from El Paso, and found 1,477 pounds of marijuana inside. The Mexican soldiers set fire to one of the Humvees stuck in the river, he said.

Doyal's deputies faced a similar incident on Nov. 17, when agents from the Fort Hancock border patrol station in Texas called the sheriff's department for backup after confronting more than six fully armed men dressed in Mexican military uniforms. The men -- who were carrying machine guns and driving military vehicles -- were trying to bring more than three tons of marijuana across the Rio Grande, Doyal said.

Doyal said such incidents are common at Neely's Crossing, which is near Fort Hancock, Texas, and across from the Mexican state of Chihuahua.

"It happens quite often here," he said.

Deputies and border patrol agents are not equipped for combat, he added.

"Our government has to do something," he said. "It's not the immigrants coming over for jobs we're worried about. It's the smugglers, Mexican military and the national threat to our borders that we're worried about."

Citing a Jan. 15 story in the Daily Bulletin, Reps. David Dreier, R-Glendora, and Duncan Hunter, R-San Diego, last week asked the House Judiciary Committee, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, the House Homeland Security Committee and the House International Relations Committee to investigate the incursions. The story focused on a Department of Homeland Security document reporting 216 incursions by Mexican soldiers during the past 10 years and a map with the seal of the president's Office of National Drug Control Policy, both of which were given to the newspaper.

Requests by Dreier, chairman of the House Rules Committee, and Hunter were made in jointly signed letters.

On Wednesday, Chertoff played down the reports of border incursions by the Mexican military. He suggested many of the incursions could have been mistakes, blaming bad navigation by military personnel or attributing the incursions to criminals dressed in military garb.

Mexican officials last week denied any incursions made by their military.

But border agents interviewed over the past year have discussed confrontations those they believe to be Mexican military personnel.

"We're sitting ducks," said a border agent speaking on condition of anonymity. "The government has our hands tied."

- Sara A. Carter can be reached by e-mail at [email protected] or by phone at (909) 483-8552.

- Kenneth Todd Ruiz can be reached by e-mail at [email protected] or by phone at (909) 483-8555.

Its amazing, we can go thousands of miles accross the world and fight a wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to find a single man but we cant even stop a few Mexican soldiers from protecting drug and immigrant smugglers as they cross the border? The US Department of Homeland Security has addmited that Mexican armed forces and police members have crossed the border and gone 2 miles or more into the US over 200 times in the past decade. These blatant violations of our sovereignty and safety MUST end. Congress should declare war on Mexico.

[Confed999]

It was legal to buy a negro before Abe Lincoln changed the law

Abe didn't do it, he can't pass laws.

Bush intervened to save Terry until the Judges could intervene

Jeb and George both used the legislature. They didn't do it themselves, they don't have the power.

[TopHatter]

I too saw the special about the tunnels. It looked more like an underground hallway then something from the Great Escape. I wonder how many come thru the border in hollowed out parts of trucks?

Just read about a woman and her baby stuffed into an empty gasoline tank (they were discovered with the vehicle was found to be running off a different tank.

[Jeremy]

I too saw the special about the tunnels. It looked more like an underground hallway then something from the Great Escape. I wonder how many come thru the border in hollowed out parts of trucks?

[Julie]

Tunneling could be a problem. Hell, from what I've read, they've already got tunnels.

They do, I seen it on the news a couple of weeks ago.

[TopHatter]

Well I was thinking each tower could have a M60 or a .50 MG. Landmines would be to deadly and cause unncessary civilian deaths as many Mexican towns have urban sprawl right up to the border fence so we dont really have a area to plant mines.

Tunneling could be a problem. Hell, from what I've read, they've already got tunnels.

[ChrisF202]

"I really think its time to construct the "Great Wall of America" - a 12 foot high concrete wall from San Diego to Brownsville with a guard tower every 200 or so yards."

Landmines and attack helicopters...

Well I was thinking each tower could have a M60 or a .50 MG. Landmines would be to deadly and cause unncessary civilian deaths as many Mexican towns have urban sprawl right up to the border fence so we dont really have a area to plant mines.

[Jeremy]

Yes, life is easy, because I define it that way. I quit hard drugs, my kids turned out perfect, & I enjoy life :) Matter of fact, I'm going to play some video games with my kids, grab a smoke, & a beer. I understand my sexuality & everything is clear to me.

[Bill]

Everything must be so simple in your little cannibis clouded world Hippie.

[Jeremy]

I like Mexicans, they are nice to me.

[troung]

"I really think its time to construct the "Great Wall of America" - a 12 foot high concrete wall from San Diego to Brownsville with a guard tower every 200 or so yards."

Landmines and attack helicopters...

[ChrisF202]

Presidente Vincente Fox is calling for the USG to protect the illegal immigrants from the Minutemen. All I can say is WHAT THE FCUK!!!

Fix should stay on his side of the border. This blatant disregard for our borders and sovereignty must end. The Mexicans also monitor anti illegal immigrant groups and such withen the US via the Mexican consulates.

I really think its time to construct the "Great Wall of America" - a 12 foot high concrete wall from San Diego to Brownsville with a guard tower every 200 or so yards.