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    A University of Pennsylvania student registers to vote last week on campus in Philadelphia.

    Election offices were flooded with new voters in a dozen states Monday as registration deadlines offered a glimpse of what the nation might see a month from now.

    Many officials reported record numbers of new voters, some said they were overwhelmed, and allegations were already flying about fraud and the disqualification of some voters’ applications.

    “They’re coming in, in buckets,” said Pamela Swafford, deputy director of Ohio’s Hamilton County board of elections. By Monday morning, the county that includes Cincinnati had 64,045 new voter registrations on hand, more than twice the 29,178 it received four years ago.

    Across Georgia’s counties, Colorado’s booming suburbs and in Midwestern cities, local officials were deluged.

    Traffic jammed the parking lot at New Jersey’s Burlington County government building. In Ocean County, phones rang continuously. The day for the office operator: “Good morning, Board of Elections, please hold; Good morning, Board of Elections, please hold; Good morning, Board of Elections, this is Barbara, how can I help you?”

    Residents filling out forms stood after all the chairs were filled, and then waited in line to drop off the forms.

    “I think it’s important to help decide who runs this country,” said Janis Britting of Toms River, N.J., who recently moved from another part of the state. She registered as a Democrat, but said she was still undecided between President Bush and Democrat John Kerry.

    A complete accounting of the registration figures across each state, let alone the country, won’t be finished for several weeks, as officials continue to accept postmarked registration forms. Other states’ deadlines fall later this week and month.

    “If you walk into our mail room, we have stacks and stacks of new forms coming in,” said Kara Sinkule, spokeswoman for Georgia Secretary of State Cathy Cox, who oversees elections. “It’s a great problem to have.”

    Her state is on pace to see a 50 percent increase in new voters for this presidential election compared to 2000. In the past year, 371,376 new voters registered, with 87,110 new voters in September alone. And the surge grew even bigger in the first few days of October.

    Both the Democrats and the Republicans have poured resources into registering voters, spurred by the near deadlock of the 2000 presidential race and polls that predict another tight election this year.

    Not everything has gone smoothly.

    In Ohio, Secretary of State Ken Blackwell first ordered local election officials to reject registration cards that weren’t on heavy-stock paper, then backed off after a burst of criticism. In Florida, critics are questioning a state order that new citizens who failed to check a box testifying to their citizenship should be rejected.

    There also are investigations into allegations of fraudulent applications in Michigan, Florida and Ohio, a lawsuit arguing that voter-drive groups were illegally denied the right to register voters in Wyoming, and claims that completed GOP voter registration forms were stolen from a nonpartisan vote-gathering group’s headquarters.

    “It just seems odd that there would be so many obstacles to something as basic as facilitating someone’s right to vote,” said Jorge Mursuli, national director of Mi Familia Vota, a voter-registration effort aimed at Hispanics. He’s been trying to make sure voters who didn’t fill out forms completely are notified so they can fix it.

    Other questions arise over whether new voters will actually turn up on Election Day; many of the nonpartisan and partisan groups credited with driving up the numbers say they will keep working to contact voters and nudge them to the ballot box next month.

    Others speculate on the impact on the presidential race, and whether more Democrats are registering than Republicans, as some evidence indicates.

    Pennsylvania’s suburban Montgomery County, the state’s largest Republican-leaning county, saw a bigger surge than the past two elections, with three Democrats registering for every two Republicans, said Joseph R. Passarella, the county’s director of voter services. An analysis by the Akron (Ohio) Beacon Journal found that registration was up higher in that state’s traditionally Democratic counties, and not as high in counties that usually vote GOP.

    Either way, many officials are just plain swamped.

    Denver hired 14 people to work full-time just to process applications, coming in at up to 2,000 per day, Election Commission spokesman Alan McBeth said. That’s never happened before.

    Joanne Nyikita, superintendent of elections in Burlington County, N.J., said that by last Tuesday she counted twice as many new applicants as 2000. Since then, she’s been too busy to count. Her staff is working overtime, and will continue like that to finish by Oct. 13, when voter registration books go to press.

    “Presidential (elections) are always busy — but it was never before like this,” Nyikita said. “We can barely keep up with opening the mail.”
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6175529/

  • #2
    Who do you think all this newly registered voters would vote for?

    Will to favor Republicans? Democrats? Or even out?

    My contention is that it is going to favor Democrats!

    In any case if all the voters who form Democrats constituency came out to vote then Republicans will have no chance of winning.

    This is one interesting election!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by turnagainarm
      Who do you think all this newly registered voters would vote for?

      Will to favor Republicans? Democrats? Or even out?

      My contention is that it is going to favor Democrats!

      In any case if all the voters who form Democrats constituency came out to vote then Republicans will have no chance of winning.

      This is one interesting election!
      Let the games begin.

      Of course if Kerry wins he can have his "sensitive war on terror" pansyness. I'll follow the one guys example and build a bunker in the mountains (Might even get some help from Patterson NJ, and Portland, OR in that regard :) )

      Or perhaps go into the breach in Pa, Snipe's predicted civil war over gun control. And/or volunteer in New York city...help out everyone with a fuck the left mentality, help make the big apple a people's republic? Not that that'd be much of a stretch with the new yowker's

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      • #4
        As a person not affected by the US scene I can say this much.

        If Kerry wins and the million dollar issue - get the international community on board (though I am sceptical), it will be the best thing for the US in Iraq. The burden of fighting will be shared and there will be no sympathy for the idiots who are causing confusion.

        If Bush win and he does not change course, he will alienate more folks around the world and neither the US nor the world will be any less dangerous.

        Yet, I like Bush and his relentless war on terror. It is the best thing that could have happened.

        Kerry, if he wins, he better pursue a relentless war like Bush, but if he gets the international community in tow, it will be the best thing that happened started by Bush; Or else, he will be worse.

        Lunatok may go to the mountains. I will start finding the lost city of Atlantis. It will be safer, until I see Kerry is OK.


        "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

        I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

        HAKUNA MATATA

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        • #5
          The "horde" seemed to have come forth after the first debate. So, in my opinion, whoever won the debate, is who the "hordes" are going to vote for.

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          • #6
            I'll follow the one guys example and build a bunker in the mountains
            Ill join you with about half of my town :)

            Until the debates I was pretty confident in a Bush victory, and now im pretty worried about Kerry winning.

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            • #7
              Chris,

              Your worries will be over in Nov.

              Till then why worry?

              Have a ball while it lasts.

              I never worry. What I can't change, I can't change.

              I rather live than have a heart attack; because all politiians lie.
              Last edited by Ray; 05 Oct 04,, 23:35.


              "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

              I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

              HAKUNA MATATA

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Julie
                The "horde" seemed to have come forth after the first debate. So, in my opinion, whoever won the debate, is who the "hordes" are going to vote for.
                Haha, or becuase the deadline to register came. My prediction is you'll see this in every state regardless of any debate.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ChrisF202
                  Ill join you with about half of my town :)

                  Until the debates I was pretty confident in a Bush victory, and now im pretty worried about Kerry winning.
                  See part two or three of my post. Bunker in the mountains, civil war in Pa over the guns (wishfully thought ) being taken away, and my prediction NYC would revolt too out of following Pa's example and not liking Shrillary.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lunatock
                    Of course if Kerry wins he can have his "sensitive war on terror" pansyness. I'll follow the one guys example and build a bunker in the mountains (Might even get some help from Patterson NJ, and Portland, OR in that regard :) )
                    Panzie, we're going to need you to fight them with us! ;)
                    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
                    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
                    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
                    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Confed999
                      Panzie, we're going to need you to fight them with us! ;)
                      Divide & conquer. And falling back to a defensable position.

                      From what I've seen of the Chechen folk & Arab folk around here, the local non-Chechen Muslims couldn't be nice to anyone if you payed them. Sufi's seem to fall under the same condemnation as me of "not being real Muslims".

                      You'd still get your wish. And it'd be made a bit easier for ya. Nobody that'd be adaptable to the hills & such, and especially no tough as nails Chechen WW2 vet taking pot shots at what'd be left of America's line of defense. :)

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                      • #12
                        Dear, dear Gio. There you go again with that somewhat biased line of news. Of course, the "hordes" were partly due to the registration deadline; that goes without saying. The inundation of newly registered voters, at a record-breaking level, immediately after the first debate is the issue.

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                        • #13
                          I saw Bush addressing another meeting.

                          He spoke well, but sadly, he was not confident as before.

                          The media has overplayed Cheney doing great and compared it with Bush's first debate. Even the pro Bush lot. Stupid of them.

                          I don't think Cheney was super.

                          He was like any old bald grandfather with words of wisdom given in a grandfatherly manner and not with Bush's conviction that he is right. It was just that Edwards was mellow as if giving deference to an old bald pate!

                          Cheney was so stupid that he practically conveyed that he made the policy and Bush was a puppeteer's doll. Blasted fool is this Cheney. On the otehr hand, Edwards, even when he was not supposed to mention Kerry, twice mentioned and had to eat crow.

                          Who does Cheney think he is? Rather silly man if I may say.
                          Last edited by Ray; 06 Oct 04,, 19:06.


                          "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

                          I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

                          HAKUNA MATATA

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ray
                            I saw Bush addressing another meeting.

                            He spoke well, but sadly, he was not confident as before.

                            The media has overplayed Cheney doing great and compared it with Bush's first debate. Even the pro Bush lot. Stupid of them.

                            I don't think Cheney was super.

                            He was like any old bald grandfather with words of wisdom given in a grandfatherly manner and not with Bush's conviction that he is right. It was just that Edwards was mellow as if giving deference to an old bald pate!

                            Cheney was so stupid that he practically conveyed that he made the policy and Bush was a puppeteer's doll. Blasted fool is this Cheney. On the otehr hand, Edwards, even when he was not supposed to mention Kerry, twice mentioned and had to eat crow.

                            Who does Cheney think he is? Rather silly man if I may say.

                            I totally agree.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Julie
                              There you go again with that somewhat biased line of news
                              All news is biased.
                              No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
                              I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
                              even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
                              He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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